Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8 v 6-8 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 2 v 13-14
 
oh, you are universalist.

wow.

ok,

5 different seconds:

John 3:18

done.
The wages of sin is death. Why are unbelievers resurrected? Because Christ died for all. Sin is finished.

Why are unbelievers sent to the lake of fire after their resurrection? Their unbelief/evil/deeds/human good.

This is still the milk of the word. We cannot get to the meat if the milk is spoiling.
 
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John 3 verse 27~ “A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.” John 1 3 verses 12-13~ To all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God - children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God. John 6 3 verse 44~ “No man can come to me except the Father, which hath sent me, draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.” Romans 9 3 verse 16~ So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. Romans 8 3 verse 16~ The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
 
so you are a unitarian universalist?

:unsure:


((maybe more complex than you realize))

A vaccine can be made free to all.
Not all will accept the vaccine.

The fact that it is made free to all who wants it does not mean one believes all are cured.
Though, all can be cured if they so desire.

Some just hate vaccines, and nothing will convince them otherwise.
 
queue @Magenta reminding us that hoping in the flesh ((human decision processes)) is vain

:)
In the Greek, the word 'elpis' is translated 'hope.'

It did not mean something like we see today, .... "I hope so."

It meant, to the Greek reader, having an "absolute confidence about something."

That is why we need a good pastor teacher.
For when reading a translation, one could never guess that was how the word 'hope' was used.
 
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Oh, death systems and soulless idiots without true Life are "very good" in God's eyes?

10s bro.

all of 10s to destroy that.

even if i didn't take 5s to quote 1 Cor 15:45

Wait a second.
Where did you derive what you just did from?
You have no idea how the first man was to function and for what reason.
There was an explanation given.
They were not soulless.

But, I don't think you're interested.
You are too quick to shoot off your six-shooter in a saloon with people around.

Blow away the smoke...
 
angels existed before men.
Job 38:7

Not only that.
Angels are not only one race.

Sons of God are differentiated from Morning stars.

When the morning stars sang together, (light bearing angels)
And all the sons of God shouted for joy? (regular angels)
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In the Greek, the word 'elpis' is translated 'hope.'

It did not mean something like we see today, .... "I hope so."

It meant, to the Greek reader, having an "absolute confidence about something."

That is why we need a good pastor teacher.
For when reading a translation, one could never guess that was how the word 'hope' was used.
The term "hope" so mistranslated today is yet ANOTHER breeding ground for foppish syrupy unbiblical emotionally charged but useless rhetoric.
 
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Revelation 3 verse 8; Luke 13 verse 24 ~ Behold, I have placed before you an open door, which no one can shut. Make every effort to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able.
 
Oh, death systems and soulless idiots without true Life are "very good" in God's eyes?

10s bro.

all of 10s to destroy that.

even if i didn't take 5s to quote 1 Cor 15:45

You really skimmed on what I said.

When God said, "very good."
That was in reference to our present created world.

Jeremiah was not talking about this world.

Jeremiah was taking the Jews to the point of Genesis 1:2.
Which in the Hebrew speaks of the earth having faced utter destruction. (tohu wa bohu)
All animal life Jeremiah said was utterly destroyed...
That included a generic form of man (which was to be found no more)...

You got to be more careful in what you read.

Again....

Jeremiah touched upon the destruction of that creation in Jeremiah 4:23-27.
Jeremiah was warning the reprobate Jews that God was about to destroy their land.
Jeremiah cited Genesis 1:2 in showing them what they were in for.



I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form, and void; (Genesis 1:2!)
And the heavens, they had no light.
I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled,
And all the hills moved back and forth.
I beheld, and indeed there was no man, (Hebrew generic term/form for a man)
And all the birds of the heavens had fled.
I beheld, and indeed the fruitful land was a wilderness,
And all its cities were broken down
At the presence of the Lord,
By His fierce anger.
Therefore says the Lord, “The whole land shall be a desolation,
Yet I will not cause total destruction. .
Jeremiah was speaking to Jews who understood Genesis 1:2 in the Hebrew.
They knew that the entire prehistoric creation had been wiped out.

Unlike some timid translators that we see too much of today, the Jews knew that Genesis 1:2 spoke of an utter destruction of the prehistoric world.

So much so!

That Jeremiah had to end by saying that they would be different from what was found in Genesis 1:2.
For the Jews and their land would not be utterly destroyed as the earth had been in Genesis 1:2.

Therefore says the Lord, “The whole land shall be a desolation,
Yet I will not cause total destruction. .

Genesis 1:2 in the Hebrew does not mean "empty and void."
Jeremiah quoted it in the Hebrew, as a warning to the rebellious Jews that they were in for a great disaster from God!

Careful how you read it.
 
A condemning conscience is often seen as a violation to the forgiving heart, but if you engage with it for to long, and let it bother you for to long, the danger is you can end up growing one yourself.

No thanks I'm out on that one.
Yeah religious racism is rife, it's everywhere, but for some people it makes them happy, generally what I've found in life, some people can only be happy when there condemning somebody else. And then there people who hate what you have, because they haven't got much.

if you take away something from a well natured pleasant nice person who happy in life, it makes them sad for a while, but God will lift them up.

On the other hand if you take a persons freedom away, ie the right to shout out religious racism, it won't make them sad for a little while, it's makes them even more miserable, and often for the rest of there life.

So how do you put up with religious racism , well you don't actually, because there going to be miserable for the rest of life anyway, so you may ask well not take any notice.

well when you've found that there nothing but a hater that is,
As none negotiable in letting of there hate.

In others words they have to project there hate onto world.

well anyway Ill just say have a nice day haters
 
What I mean is when a person has become none negotiable, I'm pretty confident it's when a person decides some innocent bystander must also be the person they've grown to hate.

But then theres.the person also stuck in hate for some other reason other than religious racism,. There just to easy to convince, that religious rascist is justified in every case, even to the point where they will upset an innocent bystander to.

Or.make it hard for an innocent bystander to talk about God publicly.

So what do you with religious freedom, well I think you have to stamp religious racism out from being spoken out publicly, because the law of the land for most lands,, especially in Christian dominant nations is religious freedom is put in place to protect people.

But I mean where can a person go to talk about religious hatred without it offending someone,

I don't know, it just depends on how there coming across really.i guess.

I mean being stuck in a hole or a rabbit trail is one thing, but remaining forever, it's bordering on madness, and you have to wonder if a person is negotiable.

Yeah I don't think I can take on this responsibility. I'll give it to God and move on,
 
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So I've been doing some research, and what I find was in another land of rabbit trails.

On YouTube, I came across lots of people who where claiming they where once a Calvinist, and now there spending there time publicly on YouTube saying how much they hate Calvinists, the reality they where never calvinist in the first place

I then came across only one person who had broke his chain of madness a youtuber whom after 6 years of being like this,.3 years of being this imaginary Calvinist, or whatever he suddenly realised he had been worshiping idols, as in idealism, as in hating something to think of himself more highly,. a practice that is projected on to world by the practice of man made laws of there own. This die hard denomination rule. Where all other denominations are like filth to to them.
The problem is made worse because Ai artificial intelligence go of what a lot people think,.so it has all these churches that AI IS repeating that all these churches are calvinist churches, and there not.

Artificial intelligence has got many leading churches as Calvinist churches,.and there not
Same as youtube,. And these peddlers of doctrines on YouTube , these click bait money making schemes,.who realise this imaginary calvinist is a popular idea. They can exploit.

People are so gullible



There is no man made law that is greater than the creator of the heavens and the earth.
 
But the FWer version of the "Gospel of salvation" is replete with theological problems! So...there is that.

It follows the very words of scripture.

From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us (Acts 17:26-27; emphasis added).

Books, websites, podcasts, research abound all working to protect the "ekklesia" from the errors of Calvinism,

refuting Calvinism and its doctrine of pre-selection and limited atonement, the sad thing is it happened too late and many have been fooled by stealth Calvinism, a planned movement to take over true bible believing fellowships which adhered to the true plan of salvation.

But this "stealth Calvinism" offers no peace or grace so it will go back to the fringes.
 
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The wages of sin is death. Why are unbelievers resurrected? Because Christ died for all. Sin is finished.

Why are unbelievers sent to the lake of fire after their resurrection? Their unbelief/evil/deeds/human good.

This is still the milk of the word. We cannot get to the meat if the milk is spoiling.

Another typical thing they say, my goodness they are so very scripted.
 
Alistair Begg I am aware of, and have enjoyed some of his videos on Youtube.
The others are not what I would seek for my answers needed.... though Martyn Lloyd Jones appears to have a solid correct approach.

They are all from the reformed school of thought, when they talk about the "doctrines of grace" it comes out very clearly.
They write well but it is subtlety still there, unlike some who are very blatant.
 
@Cameron143 has made it abundantly clear that union with Christ occurs before birth, before existence, before any decision, agreement, consent. A kidnapping and shotgun wedding type deal.

The doctrine has many contradictions (regeneration is not cleansing/new life because they were already in Christ) so that is how they deal with contradictions in the system.

It is a lame attempt to harmonize scripture, anyone with eyes to see, can see it is an epic failure.

How can a person be justified if they have not acknowledged their need for a new life, in the Reformed doctrine a new life is given and the person is not even aware, it is just "poof" birthed in them.

What is also very interesting how their narrative soon looses it determinism when they are actually addressing someone's spirituality, then they want the person to change, but that person cannot change according to them any way, it is all predetermined. :rolleyes:

It really is a doctrine for 'narcissists" which seems to be coming up as an of consideration/research these days by Christian counselors.
 
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they don't see it that way.

they think everyone deserves a fair chance to win eternal life, and believe that if it is up to God rather than man, that means it isn't fair.

forgetting that the very basis of our faith is that everyone already has that chance and everyone fails - - hence the need for Mercy

No one wins eternal life.

If you really wanted to present a case for your doctrine, you would steel man the opposing view rather than make these statements which are not at all what traditional evangelical doctrine teaches.