Which implies he would believe in the efficacy of God's grace, which he clearly doesn't believe. You have to watch for these forked-tongued folks.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Which implies he would believe in the efficacy of God's grace, which he clearly doesn't believe. You have to watch for these forked-tongued folks.
All of which proves those fools (not to be confused with the wise) who reject the authority of Christ and his gospel never had true understanding. And why did you conveniently omit the text below from the context of 1Cor 2:
1 Cor 2:8
8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory...?
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Learn a few things about your soulmates who you apparently think are chock full of Gospel understanding:
Fools are characterized as or known for:
1. being wicked (2Sam 13:13; Ps 94:3,8; Isa 35:8)
2. mockers of God (Ps 74:22)
3. not understanding their bleak eternal destiny (Ps 92:6)
4. being rebellious (Ps 107:17)
5. despising spiritual wisdom (Prov 1:7)
6. hating spiritual knowledge (Prov 1:22)
7. mockers delighting in mockery (Prov 1:22)
8. being wayward and complacent (Prov 1:32)
9. being wicked and held up to shame by God (Prov 3:33,35)
10. dying for their lack of knowledge (Prov 10:21)
11. having hearts that blurt our folly (Prov 12:23)
12. detesting the thought to turn away from evil (Prov 13:19
13. bringing harm to their companions (Prov 13:20)
14. folly in their heart that is deception (Prov 14:8)
15.mockers at making amends for their sins (Prov 14:9)
16. known for their folly that only yields folly (Prov 14:
17. not spreading true [spiritual] knowledge (Prov 15:7)
18. their folly that brings them punishment (Prov 16:22)
20. being ignorant of their wrong-doings (Eccl 5:1)
21. being unpleasing to God (Eccl 5:4)
22. having hearts that are in the house of pleasure (Eccl 7:4)
23. their laughter as being meaningless (Eccl 7:6)
24. their anger residing in their laps (Eccl 7:9)
25. thinking of themselves as wise counselors but only giving senseless advice (Ia 19:11)
26. not being willing to walk in the Way of Holiness (Isa 35:8)
27. not knowing God (Jer 4:22)
28. being false prophets (Jer 50:36)
29. being equated with the wicked (1Sam 25:25)
30. at times for recognizing themselves as being great sinners (1Sam 26:21)
31. resentment or envy slaying them (Job 5:2)
31. denying the existence of God (Ps 14:1; 53:1)
32. their chatterings that bring them to ruin (Prov 10:10,14)
33. the spreaders of slander (Prov 10:18)
34. finding pleasure in evil conduct (Prov 10:23)
35. choosing a way that seems right to them and ignoring good advice (Prov 12:15)
36. for angering quickly (Prov 12:16; 20:3; 29:11)
37. exposing their own folly (Prov 13:16)
38. being hotheaded and reckless (Prov 14:16)
39. having mouths that gush folly (Prov 15:2)
40.having mouths that feed on folly (Prov 15:14)
41. spurning their father's discipline (Prov 15:5)
42. having no desire to get wisdom (Prov 17:16)
43. finding no pleasure in understanding (Prov 18:2)
44. delighting in airing his own opinions (Prov 18:2)
45. having perverse lips (Prov 19:1)
46. scorning the wisdom of wise words if the wise speak to them (Prov 23:9)
47. their proverbs being as useless as a lame man's legs hanging limp (Prov 26:7).
48. a dog that returns to its vomit when it repeats its folly (Prov 26:11)
49. their provocation which is heavier than stone and sand (Prov 27:3).
50. their great reluctance in removing their folly from themselves (rov 27:22).
51. trusting in themselves (Prov 28:26)
52. raging and scoffing at the wise man with whom he goes to court (Prov 29:9)
53. playing the fool, exalting themselves or planning evil (Prov 30:32)
54. walking in the darkness (Eccl 2:14)
55. folding their hands and bringing ruin to themselves (Eccl 4:5)
56. their speech that pours out many words (Eccl 5:3)
57. lacking sense and showing everyone how stupid they are (Eccl 10:13)
58. being consumed by their own lips (Eccl 10:12)
59. multiplying their own words (Eccl 10:14)
60. speaking folly (Isa 32:6)
61. their minds being busy with evil (Isa 32:6)
62. practicing ungodliness and spreading error concerning the Lord (Isa 32:6)
63. leaving the hungry empty and withholding water from the thirsty (Isa 32:6)
64. gaining riches by unjust gains (Jer 17:11)
I suppose next you'll try to convince us that not all "Greek" unbelievers are fools?
Even though I still smile at your recent comment about context being non sequitur, I'll treat it for the moment as another emotional outburst and put it into the background for now.
A few comments to get started if you'll hang in and actually work on this.
- First, I've commented on your lengthy lists before after looking into a few of them, and I think this one is a reposting of one I've commented on before. There are different words in Hebrew and Greek translated as "fool" and until you sort them out and explain the one you want to focus on, this is just a lot of mixed listing of Scripture that doesn't really make any specific point or tie to any specific verse we're working on. I appreciate the work, but it's just a start that you need to refine.
- None of those verses are directly and specifically evidenced as tying directly to 1Cor2 that the discussion is about. Maybe some will tie in, but you're a long way from showing us this.
- You're as usual alleging I'm conveniently omitting something, yet I provided the list of contextual verses 1Cor2:6-16 within which 1Cor2:8 obviously resides. Do I call you a liar, just sloppy, or simply point out you missed something?
If you'd like to discuss 1Cor2:8, what's your point? Just focus and be clear. Keep it simple and I'll respond.
Too funny... hot air and bloviating are one of your specialties, after all.
He simply believes the grace of God is necessary for true free volitional choices, which is far closer to truth than those who believe the fallen natural man has unfettered free will. Where I believe he errs is that short of a new heart the natural man is still operating according a corrupted heart and without the Spirit he can only operate in the flesh. An individual can only operate in the flesh or in the Spirit. There is no third choice.
God granting Repentance doesn't change how the Holy Ghost explains the process.
You just can't ignore the Holy Ghost for 50 verses and say now this means different.
Clearly your verses only means that it's not just the Jews who can be saved but now the Gentiles can to.
Flesh serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death.
But this is contradicted and denied by the FW crowd.
Like pretty much every other Scriptural truth dealing with this issue.
You act like if God sends someone an Angel to prophecy that nothing special is about to happen.
The Author, the Holy Ghost said you must Repent before being saved.
That wasn't the discussion but most examples were people simply seeing God do for the jews and they wanted that.
Hebrews tells us Enoch seeked God and that was counted as faith. The others are Enochs lineage.
Already explained Enoch searched and found God.So, what makes you think that those people were not recipients of God's saving grace, such as expressed in Ps 110:3? Oh wait...the Psalms aren't part of the Torah, are they?
Eh? The immaculate conception is not about Jesus' birth. It concerns Mary being preserved from Adam's sin
from HER conception on, so that Jesus could be born sinless because according to the RCC He needed her help,
but then, if that makes any sense, so would Mary's mother have to have been likewise preserved from sin and
so on and so forth all the way back to Eve. And surely you see how preposterous such a proposal is on all sides.
The dogma of immaculate conception has no angel anywhere (it is not Biblical); you confuse it with the annunciation.
The annunciation where Mary was not asked but informed, much to the hateful denials of blasphemers.
Don't confuse him with the facts. He's very sheltered, but still somehow knows everything.
I believe that Tit 3:5 first occurs and is followed by repentance, which is a fruit of that operation.
Pre - supposition that mankind is created by God and born with a fallen nature unable to believe in/exercise faith in Christ Jesus and His Good News.
“For we conclude that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law” (Romans 3:28).
NOT
“For we conclude that a person is justified by
Reformed doctrine restricts the freedom of God from sovereignly deciding that salvation be conditioned upon personal faith in the Good News offered by Him.
It is a contradiction if being a sinner entails “total inability” to respond to God when that same God both beckons sinners to humble themselves, believe the gospel, and be saved.
“Total depravity,” or our pervasively sinful condition, obviously does not preclude sinners from recognizing their sin and coming to God to have their sins forgiven.
Faith is not a work, it is not meritorious, it is the condition set by God.
The End.
Faulty premise. Gosh, have you never heard of Adam?
I suggest you read the Bible. Please start at the beginning.
what I know is Jesus was born without a sin nature, but he was still tempted by sin but I get confused by that, does that mean sin tried to tempt him. But sin from who ?
Has there been a study on that here.