Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

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the_seeker said:
The killing of Charlie Kirk is a terrible, devastating, tragic event. My condolances to his familiy and friends.

But my question today is as follows: What now, dear americans ? Which impact will his death have on your society?
As a non-american, my first analysis is as follows. You have, in my opinion, mainly two ways of reacting:

- "Peace and love". You americans come together, from each wing and every fraction, and you say:
"Enough is enough !" Enough hatred, enough polarization, enough violence, enough killings. Let us unite in a brotherhood
and be friends, despite some disagreement on this or that. Peace and love !

- War. Expand the hatred, expand the war. You are not me and you will never be. I hate you, your group and your opinions!
I am a warrior of the good side and anyone not with us is an enemy. War !

So which solution do you - reading this - support?
This is a serious question; it's about the future of the United States of America.
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You can't have a peace without war. There is a war that must take place on different fronts.

War of the mind
War of the spiritual
War of the physical

Mind: truth must prevail

Spiritual: evil must be fought through the gospel and life transformation.

Physical: Domestic terrorism must be treated for what it is. Terrorism. This kid was radicalized by left-wing ideologies but also ANTIFA. These groups must be supervised online and watched. Once evidence is shown that people are becoming radicalized it must be shut down and persecuted by the law.
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
This kid was radicalized by left-wing ideologies but also ANTIFA.
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The facts seem to show Robinson viewed Charlie Kirk as a "fascist." But just because someone calls someone else a fascist, that doesn't mean they've been radicalized by Antifa. Who radicalized Tyler Robinson? Has a clear link between Robinson and some Antifa group been established?
 
ResidentAlien said:
The facts seem to show Robinson viewed Charlie Kirk as a "fascist." But just because someone calls someone else a fascist, that doesn't mean they've been radicalized by Antifa. Who radicalized Tyler Robinson? Has a clear link between Robinson and some Antifa group been established?
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Yes. Online chat rooms were discovered. The sayings on the bullets match typical Antifa slogans. And the whole objective of ANTIFA is to fight fascism or so they say.
 
Roughsoul1991 said:
Yes. Online chat rooms were discovered. The sayings on the bullets match typical Antifa slogans. And the whole objective of ANTIFA is to fight fascism or so they say.
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That doesn't really sound like a clear link to an Antifa group, sounds more like a theory. Robinson clearly saw Kirk as a "fascist," but that doesn't prove he was radicalized by an Antifa group, any more than it proves Charlie Kirk was a fascist.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
The facts seem to show Robinson viewed Charlie Kirk as a "fascist." But just because someone calls someone else a fascist, that doesn't mean they've been radicalized by Antifa. Who radicalized Tyler Robinson? Has a clear link between Robinson and some Antifa group been established?
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In double checking what I have been reading. The link to Antifa isn't clear despite the online chat rooms joking about the killing and fascist statements. It is still under investigation as to what radicalized him so quickly.
 
ResidentAlien said:
That doesn't really sound like a clear link to an Antifa group, sounds more like a theory. Robinson clearly saw Kirk as a "fascist," but that doesn't prove he was radicalized by an Antifa group, any more than it proves Charlie Kirk was a fascist.
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Regardless what is a clear motive is he saw hate speech towards his pro-tran and homosexual beliefs and decided to label him a facist. Something made him realize that he could just eliminate the hate and grow old like nothing ever happened.
 
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PennEd said:
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The debates not over.

Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
 
Roughsoul1991 said:
Regardless what is a clear motive is he saw hate speech towards his pro-tran and homosexual beliefs and decided to label him a facist. Something made him realize that he could just eliminate the hate and grow old like nothing ever happened.
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I can agree with this. He was immersed in an online culture, and maybe offline too, that encouraged his hate. I just haven't seen any evidence so far that he was radicalized by any known terrorist groups. He was clearly not in touch with reality.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
I can agree with this. He was immersed in an online culture, and maybe offline too, that encouraged his hate. I just haven't seen any evidence so far that he was radicalized by any known terrorist groups. He was clearly not in touch with reality.
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I suppose I took these online groups as breeding grounds for domestic terrorism. The stuff they say and agree on is disturbing to say the least and once your in groups that affirm, encourage, and cheer that type of thinking, it isn't too hard to imagine someone acting on it. These sites especially need to censor terrorist-type of speech. Of course, people learn to by-pass the algorithms but I guess we will learn more on what really radicalized this kid so fast.
 
ResidentAlien said:
I can agree with this. He was immersed in an online culture, and maybe offline too, that encouraged his hate. I just haven't seen any evidence so far that he was radicalized by any known terrorist groups. He was clearly not in touch with reality.
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Interesting that you would comment on someone not being in touch with reality.:unsure:(y)
 
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PennEd said:
Yeah. Sure you are.

Here is this guy's post the day of the murder. Does THAT look like a prayer for peace!?

RESIDENT ALIEN:
"He was a right-wing extremist and activist. Not to mention a racist and a bigot. Don't let his boyish good looks fool you. It's not known if it was politically motivated, though that would be a reasonable guess.
I have compassion for those he left behind, who loved him; but I'm not at all shocked or surprised by this. It was predictable. You reap what you sow."

What I just posted you said IS HATE SPEECH!! And on a Christian site no less, from a guy that claims he's a Christian!



We do. And it's leftists like YOU.


This is just a patently false LIE! It's almost as if lying were this poster's natural language.
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Wow I hadn't known he was so far left in views. It seems he hasn't done his homework... I hope to God that @ResidentAlien does look into Charlie Kirks actual opinions and views, rather than believing what he had heard. He wasnt racist, homophobic,transpohobic or anything. He had many freinds who were all of these things. A few clips of his got circled around without proper context that made him look bad, but these people didnt explain the full clip. For example the clip about miss Rachel.

I have a video that has taught me some, ill post it here:)

https://www.youtube.com/live/5-mUBv1DVqI?si=tTh3XdeIOeLRzkNI
 
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At this late date inn God's timing as He continues to separate His sheep from the goats it seems from here some are being given over to a reprobate mind, it has gone on before.
best wishes:)(y):unsure:
 
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PennEd said:
Yeah. Sure you are.

Here is this guy's post the day of the murder. Does THAT look like a prayer for peace!?

RESIDENT ALIEN:
"He was a right-wing extremist and activist. Not to mention a racist and a bigot. Don't let his boyish good looks fool you. It's not known if it was politically motivated, though that would be a reasonable guess.
I have compassion for those he left behind, who loved him; but I'm not at all shocked or surprised by this. It was predictable. You reap what you sow."

What I just posted you said IS HATE SPEECH!! And on a Christian site no less, from a guy that claims he's a Christian!



We do. And it's leftists like YOU.


This is just a patently false LIE! It's almost as if lying were this poster's natural language.
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What threw me off though was the "boyish good looks" thing though. I did actually laugh about it but it does kinda make wonder.

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