SEPT COULD BE THE RAPTURE !!!!!

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The feast of trumpets is this month.
The fall feasts are also called the days of awe, and it includes Roshashana and tabernacles.

The begginning Of the feast is at the start of the new moon.
No one would know the day or the hour that the final silver sliver of the moon would disappear, marking the new moon, and marking the beginning of the feast. .

https://robertcliftonrobinson.com/2...e-is-called-no-man-knows-the-day-or-the-hour/

God is giving the world 7 years to have their way and cause the people who do not love the truth to follow the beast kingdom then He will end sin on earth for He will not give up on the world until they give up on Him.

Since God is giving them their way to go against the truth the saints will remain on earth for they represent the truth.

God's wrath or Him afflicting them will not be in the 7 years for He is giving the world their way.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

When the resurrection happens it is the end and Jesus will put down the world.

The resurrection cannot happen before the 7 years or there would be no 7 years that the heathen continue then God could not end sin on earth for they did not rebel against Him going along with the New Age Christ who is Lucifer inhabiting a human body and taking the mark of the beast which then salvation is no longer available to them.

The saints have to be on earth for the 7 years because they represent the truth and because when they are resurrected it is the end which the heathen do not continue anymore.

The resurrection before the 7 years means the heathen would not continue anymore then how can God put down the world so Jesus and the saints can take over.

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

The beast blasphemes against God which testifies that the saints are on earth.

For if the saints are not on earth he would not have to blaspheme against God.

Which he is telling the world that God does not exist for he honors the God of forces, the power of nature, and believes in evolution, and Christianity is false and not the answer for peace on earth.

For the first three and one half years salvation is still available to the world so God would not afflict there for it would be like now.

And the beast has power to rule the world for the last three and one half years which he can only have that power if God lets him so God would not afflict there.

God does not afflict them during the 7 years.

God's wrath is after the 7 years which the saints will be off the earth.

Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The resurrection will not happen until there is a falling away first.

Which is the condition of the world in response to the Gospel which they stopped the preaching of it on a world wide level all governments supporting it.

Which the New Age Christ will push the agenda of the new age for three and one half years which then the transgressors have come to the full.

And the man of sin claims to be God which happens in the middle of the 7 years period.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

It was given unto him to make war against the saints which God is allowing it.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

The saints will be given into his hand for three and one half years the great tribulation.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

When he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the saints all things shall be finished.

Which then comes the end when the Son shall deliver up the kingdom to God and the heathen shall not continue anymore.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2Ti 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

When the resurrection does not happen before the 7 years it will overthrow the faith of some people and they will follow the new age interpretation of the Bible.

The resurrection will not happen in September.
 
We do not live in ancient times. The new moon's appearance is known with precision, because it is defined as the
exact moment the Moon and Sun have the same ecliptic longitude, which is a precise geometrical condition.
I agree. It also matters what angle the "Watchman On The Wall" would see it from. That is who the "Sign" is for, to blow the Shofar and Gather Gods People(The First Fruits of a series of Harvests)
 
1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

We will not know the day and hour but Paul gives us a time frame.

When the nations come together as one and want to work for peace then the resurrection is not too far away.

And the saints will not be deceived by them saying Peace and safety for they know they are going against the operation of God.

Some people think that the 7 Churches are from the 1st century but they are not.

It is a prophetic statement of how the Church age will go in popular influence.

6th Church.

Jesus did not have something against this Church.

The truth was popular again.

Jesus said because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

There can only be one temptation that can come upon all the world at the same time.

And that is when the world says Peace and safety.

Then the world has to decide whether to follow them or not.

Jesus will deliver the people in the truth from that temptation.

And the resurrection is not too far away.
 
Thanks for explaining it. I don't believe in a pretrib rapture, so this month is out for me. Maybe sometime in the future in September it could be possible I guess.

Can you give me scriptural support for why you dont believe in pretribulation rapture? I always thought the rapture came and then the tribulation, I could be wrong though.
 
Can you give me scriptural support for why you dont believe in pretribulation rapture? I always thought the rapture came and then the tribulation, I could be wrong though.

Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

The tribulation is not for the world but for the saints.

God is giving the world 7 years to have their way and cause the people who do not love the truth to follow the beast kingdom then He will end sin on earth for He will not give up on the world until they give up on Him.

Since God is giving them their way to go against the truth the saints will remain on earth for they represent the truth.

God's wrath or Him afflicting them will not be in the 7 years for He is giving the world their way.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

When the resurrection happens it is the end and Jesus will put down the world.

The resurrection cannot happen before the 7 years or there would be no 7 years that the heathen continue then God could not end sin on earth for they did not rebel against Him going along with the New Age Christ who is Lucifer inhabiting a human body and taking the mark of the beast which then salvation is no longer available to them.

The saints have to be on earth for the 7 years because they represent the truth and because when they are resurrected it is the end which the heathen do not continue anymore.

The resurrection before the 7 years means the heathen would not continue anymore then how can God put down the world so Jesus and the saints can take over.

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

The beast blasphemes against God which testifies that the saints are on earth.

For if the saints are not on earth he would not have to blaspheme against God.

Which he is telling the world that God does not exist for he honors the God of forces, the power of nature, and believes in evolution, and Christianity is false and not the answer for peace on earth.

For the first three and one half years salvation is still available to the world so God would not afflict there for it would be like now.

And the beast has power to rule the world for the last three and one half years which he can only have that power if God lets him so God would not afflict there.

The tribulation is not for the world but the saints.

God does not afflict them during the 7 years.

God's wrath is after the 7 years which the saints will be off the earth.

Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The resurrection will not happen until there is a falling away first.

Which is the condition of the world in response to the Gospel which they stopped the preaching of it on a world wide level all governments supporting it.

Which the New Age Christ will push the agenda of the new age for three and one half years which then the transgressors have come to the full.

And the man of sin claims to be God which happens in the middle of the 7 years period.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

It was given unto him to make war against the saints which God is allowing it.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

The saints will be given into his hand for three and one half years the great tribulation.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

When he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the saints all things shall be finished.

Which then comes the end when the Son shall deliver up the kingdom to God and the heathen shall not continue anymore.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2Ti 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

When the resurrection does not happen before the 7 years it will overthrow the faith of some people and they will follow the new age interpretation of the Bible.
 
Can you give me scriptural support for why you dont believe in pretribulation rapture? I always thought the rapture came and then the tribulation, I could be wrong though.

First, the word rapture is not in the bible. Second, the return of the lord won't be in secret as the rapture doctrine teaches, but will be very noisy and loud which all of the world will behold. And believers still alive on earth won't ascend until after the dead have been resurrected. The rupture doctrine reverses this order.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
The lord's return will happen on the feast of trumpets, which was a yearly holiday in which the children of Israel were commanded to make a lot of noise.

Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation. Leviticus 23:24
Blowing of trumpets
H8643 תְּרוּעָה truw`ah (ter-oo-aw') n-f.
1. clamor, i.e. acclamation of joy or a battle-cry.
2. (especially) clangor of trumpets, as an alarm.

Can you give us scriptural support that doesn't violate these truths for why you do believe in a pretribulation rapture ?
 
Well I like this song playing "Heaven On My Mind" Toby Mac. Then .. playing God Did! "I can't thank you enough."

This thread Sept could be the Rapture. Amen I agree as much as I could say it could happen right now.

I like that we are looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.

I should not have to say this here but we all know Rapture refers to "Caught up" which is written. I read people saying what its not written in Gods word ok I agree yet then post about something that also is not written. They add to what that verse is saying. So what I do is look at what they say and.. no where above that verse or below does it say that or hint at that.

I have to.. I like this song "I know A Name" then "Mighty Name of Jesus" yeah .. its still there.. never gets old.. oh I worship Him praise Him give Him all the glory. I have His strength His peace His joy oh Praise GOD glory to Jesus.

I just watched this Preacher yesterday talk about this secret Rapture. Before he started said this is what he believes and why. I like that! This was Sept 2025 and talked about 1830-1900 on how this Rapture doctrine started. In truth I really didn't know what to say..haha I am not good with words. We have the world of info in our hands. I have shared before I was ever on here that I went searching to see if anyone talked about "caught up" and I found Hymn writer did in fact anyone can see the scrolls he wrote on about Caught up happing before the great tribulation. This was written 300-400bc. Some time later when Jan and Paul Crouch were young there was some show on that network weekly the man had white hair and .. I was shocked he talked about this Hymn writer showed the scrolls and the date they were written. Laters weeks showed others before 300bc that talked about caught up happening before the great trib.

Caught was talked in 1600.. well written about. The point is it was talked about preached about. That in its self does not prove anything. It just makes me sad when.. some just have not fully studied. You just almost never hear "Hey don't believe me you go study this you pray you seek you find this truth for yourself". So I love watching for Him now.
 
Jesus told us what sign we would have when it was time for he's return. The abomination where it should not be. When we see the anti-christ we will know it's time. Even at the door steps.

Until we see the anti-christ, we are not going to know when.
 
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It is happening in many schools and in other countries as well in fact in one school there was a new world record of baptisms I have only seen the videos so it may be happening other places to but it is happening
When I hear of this happening I always pray it is real.
But I question it because I do not know what has been taught or what these people believe brings salvation.
I have seen to many times where people experienced an emotional event, were told they were saved, and later realized it was not true.
So before I will believe it is true, I need to hear what was taught. What they believed.
The worse thing that could happen is for a lost person to have a false assurance of salvation.
I personally know people that this has happened to when they were young and later realized they were lost and were really saved when they heard the true Gospel.
Scripture says there will be a great falling away and that is another reason to be cautious when we hear of this.
 
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When I hear of this happening I always pray it is real.
But I question it because I do not know what has been taught or what these people believe brings salvation.
I have seen to many times where people experienced an emotional event, were told they were saved, and later realized it was not true.
So before I will believe it is true, I need to hear what was taught. What they believed.
The worse thing that could happen is for a lost person to have a false assurance of salvation.
I personally know people that this has happened to when they were young and later realized they were lost and were really saved when they heard the true Gospel.
Scripture says there will be a great falling away and that is another reason to be cautious when we hear of this.
Well it is happening and whether or not it is merely an emotional event or it is the real deal is up to God I suppose, but I am sorry you have had to deal with that because I would be skeptical too if I went through that and heard of this event
 
What was this? I am curious. Though if you find it distasteful of me to ask, please ignore:)
No, it's not distasteful to ask. ;)

When someone says, "X will happen on this date" or "... within this time period", they are usually wrong, which means they are either speculating, or are a false prophet.

Given I have high confidence that there will be no rapture in September, I challenged the OP to fess up to his error come October 1, when it will be clear to all that he is wrong.
 
No, it's not distasteful to ask. ;)

When someone says, "X will happen on this date" or "... within this time period", they are usually wrong, which means they are either speculating, or are a false prophet.

Given I have high confidence that there will be no rapture in September, I challenged the OP to fess up to his error come October 1, when it will be clear to all that he is wrong.

Oh yes! I agree. Im all for public repentance when the offense is public! Let's hold him accountable as our brother in Christ:) it really is the loving thing to do, as God hates false prophesy and we seem to adore it in the church at the moment.

Of course let's be gentle and humble in doing so, as to not offend our brother/sisters in the faith.

It is also worth noting that Mike winger made a video on this today. You may want to check it out:)
 
1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

We will not know the day and hour but Paul gives us a time frame.

When the nations come together as one and want to work for peace then the resurrection is not too far away.

And the saints will not be deceived by them saying Peace and safety for they know they are going against the operation of God.

Some people think that the 7 Churches are from the 1st century but they are not.

It is a prophetic statement of how the Church age will go in popular influence.

6th Church.

Jesus did not have something against this Church.

The truth was popular again.

Jesus said because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

There can only be one temptation that can come upon all the world at the same time.

And that is when the world says Peace and safety.

Then the world has to decide whether to follow them or not.

Jesus will deliver the people in the truth from that temptation.

And the resurrection is not too far away.
Nobody says "peace and safety" during the 7 yr trib, or at the end of it, or before the wrath.
You are way off.

No saints make it through the trib.
Read Rev 13.
Rev 13 once and for all destroys the unbiblical postrib rapture. ( the AC murdering ALL believers.)
Then factor in Rev 14.
( the Jewish gathering of rev 14 is mid trib right before the wrath.)


Factor it all in

Your doctrine of omission is huge error.
The bible is your friend.
No rebellion against it.
 
Oh yes! I agree. Im all for public repentance when the offense is public! Let's hold him accountable as our brother in Christ:) it really is the loving thing to do, as God hates false prophesy and we seem to adore it in the church at the moment.

Of course let's be gentle and humble in doing so, as to not offend our brother/sisters in the faith.

It is also worth noting that Mike winger made a video on this today. You may want to check it out:)
Maybe get that beam out of your eye.
Quote the verse about not knowing the time of the rapture.
I will wait.

Should be real easy.
 
No, it's not distasteful to ask. ;)

When someone says, "X will happen on this date" or "... within this time period", they are usually wrong, which means they are either speculating, or are a false prophet.

Given I have high confidence that there will be no rapture in September, I challenged the OP to fess up to his error come October 1, when it will be clear to all that he is wrong.
Show me ANYwhere in some quote of mine that qualifies your accusations against me.

First read the beam in your eye verse.
 
What was this? I am curious. Though if you find it distasteful of me to ask, please ignore:)
He and 20 others can not read.
I am pointing out the PARALELLS to the feast of trumpets and the rapture of 1 thes 4.

IT COULD BE THE RAPTURE IS ON THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS.

"COULD BE"

....AND PROBABLY WILL .
MAYBE NOT THIS SEPT.
MAYBE NEXT SEPT.

There is one huge roadblock to any possibility of a September rapture, and that is found in scripture by Paul. Who said, "these things shall not take place until the man of sin be revealed first."
 
Many all over the world are receiving very similar dreams, visions, words of knowledge, etc. of this.