Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Volition was created in man in creation. Man never lost volition.
If you are going to ask me questions expecting answers, please allow for me the same courtesy.
But the New Covenant promises don't speak to mere possibilities for choosing. Rather they speak to the total efficacy of God's causal grace.
Plus God doesn't give his grace to all mankind w/o exception -- only to the humble.
really ok, a person will not accept grace either if it's shoved down there throats with an argumentative approach or a provocative one
Neither will they accept God's word if given to them provocatively.
There likely to stumble
You're going to have to do much better than your incoherent word salad. And where in scripture does it teach that God gifted all men with a certain degree of sovereignty? I need chapter and verse on that rubbish. How does man's sovereignty jive with these passages that essentially teach that man's ways are not in himself:
Prov 16:1, 9, 33; 19:21; 20:24; 21:1; Isa 46:10; Jer 10:23; Dan 5:23; Act 4:23-28; Rom 9:14-18
And what happens to your supposed sovereignty for man in the Eternal New Order? Is the Kingdom of God going to be a rule by democracy?
This is how you screw it up.
There is pre-salvation grace.
For even unrepentant flaming homosexuals (even the murderous) were drawn by God's grace - as seen in Romans 1:18-23.
Then, there is post salvation grace, which is then humility dependent.
You're going to have to do much better than your incoherent word salad. And where in scripture does it teach that God gifted all men with a certain degree of sovereignty? I need chapter and verse on that rubbish. How does man's sovereignty jive with these passages that essentially teach that man's ways are not in himself:
Prov 16:1, 9, 33; 19:21; 20:24; 21:1; Isa 46:10; Jer 10:23; Dan 5:23; Act 4:23-28; Rom 9:14-18
And what happens to your supposed sovereignty for man in the Eternal New Order? Is the Kingdom of God going to be a rule by democracy?
You can not hear my words.
They are not incoherent.
If you were willing to learn?
You would ask questions, not attack and reject outright.
Faith and repentance are not a gift now?
I love the game of you do not understand or misrepresent because one word is out of place or not used.
I am feeling like someone could turn this into a fun (not really) board game
"The Battle Of You do NOT Understand and You Misrepresent"
Different as in declaring/describing/criticizing a command issued by the Lord Jesus as being impossible? Wrongly with intent to commit fraud?
Sounds more like heretical than "different".
Faith and repentance are not a gift now?
I love the game of you do not understand or misrepresent because one word is out of place or not used.
I am feeling like someone could turn this into a fun (not really) board game
"The Battle Of You do NOT Understand and You Misrepresent"
Some run from truth because they fear the pressures that will come to them if they accept.
Resisting the devil is a process requiring suffering for righteousness sake.
