but would you believe that was that right choice.
God will no doubt watch people make the wrong choice all the time and then disaplin them until they believe in the right choice
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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God will no doubt watch people make the wrong choice all the time and then disaplin them until they believe in the right choice
You get everything backwards, don't you? How do you ask such a question after I clearly stated that God's salvation is a supernatural act of God!
But you don't believe this for a second, do you? You believe that salvation is purely a natural, efficacious act of man's "freewill", do you not?
That is why many people reject God because unlike you and myself they don't believe Jesus.
Pelagians basically don't believe that the Fall corrupted man's nature. Man's basically a good egg...or at worst comes into this world in an amoral state and eventually becomes immoral by sinning, which he learned by the nurturing process of others.
So you say... Of course, you're too proud to wear a theological or philosophical label. All Catholics, too, believe they are Christian. Do you attend a Catholic church?
So, what good is divine revelation to succeeding generations of first generation New Covenant believers, since all scripture applies only to the original first century audience?
Get a lawyer.You get everything backwards, don't you? How do you ask such a question after I clearly stated that God's salvation is a supernatural act of God!
The Word of God is life ... you stated yourself that "The words of Jesus are spirit and life". Hebrews 4:12 tells us the word of God is quick [Greek = zaō = living], and powerful ... the Word is spoken by faithful believers ... those who do not suppress the truth in unrighteousness receive the benefit from the living Word of God.
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
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don't worry billy bob is ok to be offended in fact everybody is ok to be offended.
With being offended it can leed to being wounded. ....so my hope is our billybob friend is still bob bobbing bobbing along
I am by no means a Greek scholar, but this make sense to me!
God has made, or ‘cut’ a Diatheke Covenant. “The Greek word ‘diatheke’ is different from 'suntheke'. 'Diatheke' does not involve the action of two parties. It is the action of one party on behalf of another. It involves two parties in the sense that one is the benefactor the other is the beneficiary. It is natural to think of a covenant as a coming together of two active parties (i.e., marriage). Diatheke is not an agreement between two parties. Diatheke is made by one party on behalf of another. The benefactor has no involvement in the agreement except a willingness to receive it.” However, this willingness on the part of God’s chosen is a gift given to them by God through grace, “Thy people shall be willing in the day of Thy power…” (Psa. 110:3); “Blessed is the man whom Thou choosest, and causest to approach unto Thee…” (Psa. 65:4).
“In this respect the ‘diatheke’ is like: 1) a testament or a will. 2) an inheritance. The covenant is 'all of God'.” That is grace. “But 'diatheke' is unlike a testament because a testament only comes into effect when the testator is dead. An inheritance distributes the wealth of a deceased person. The New Covenant 'diatheke' only came into being through the death and resurrection of Christ. If Christ had not risen then the New Covenant 'diatheke' would not exist. The New Covenant comes into being through the Resurrection of Christ. It is a Covenant of New Life. It is a Covenant of adoption being brought into the family of God by grace. It is a Covenant of an eternal inheritance in Christ. God’s chosen people are joint heirs with Christ. God alone was active in initiating the New Covenant ‘Diatheke’; God’s people enter into the New Covenant by grace through the gift of faith in the finished work of Christ on their behalf.
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Interesting.
I thought it was Gods faith in the reformed/calvie/tulip world. No such thing as "your" faith.
God explicitly forbids personal FREEWILL faith........According to the reformed/calvie/tulip theory.
No, in fact you don't. He only defends those who have RECEIVED Him. Of their own free will. That volitional action which you have vociferously denied and declared impossible.
So you and your crew are on your own.
Rots of ruck and happy landings ...