Why God the Father considered this fruit as forbidden?

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Godsgood said:
It means Jesus was born night time cause the 3 wise men needs the guidance of the shining star.
We need the shine of the star during night time and not during day time.
It is understood that Jesus was born at night time.

Why Jesus born at night time.
Because the world was in darkness because it is being deceit by the Devil .
REVELATION 12:9
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And the world need Jesus because Jesus is the light of the World.
And so was Jesus exposing the people living in darkness or under the deceitful of the Devil.

That is the significance why Jesus was born at night time.

It is a different topic and perhaps in different thread on how Jesus took away those people living in darkness and what is the darkness in the eyes of God.

Let us go back with the topic of this thread.
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well, it is true that the sages in the east who understood the signs in the heavens and came to worship Him had to have arrived between 1-2 years after He was born, and there were probably closer to 300 men together than 3.

we should ask, what is "east"?
about an hours hike?
no, a years journey. Chinese and Indian probably came to Babylon in caravans, and then all together with those who remembered Daniel, to Israel. it was no small thing, and didn't occur in a matter of hours like the shepherds in the same region who received immediately the witness of angels.

but this isn't unrelated to the original topic - - darkness and light are in the two trees. the LORD created the heavens and the earth, and then they were covered in flood and void. is Creation darkness? or is it light?
and then He created light - - what light? photons? those are created things, but the Son, uncreated, is also The Light, and created all things. He is not the light created in the first period called a day - - but the separation of darkness from light, in the physical created world, is akin to the separation of good and evil, and the separation of the two trees.

how far apart were the tree of life and of death? were they originally mingled, then separated? was it one tree, until sin was found in a branch, so The Gardener broke it off? did He plant it and say, wait, let it be nurtured and cultivated, and then see whether it is good?
 
Godsgood said:
Yes, it is clearly in our own understanding that Moses did not reach Canaan because it is written and understood in letter.
Lord Jesus gave this warning to Paul.
2 CORINTHIANS 3:6
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

It proves that the Holy Bible is not just like an academic books that we use in school.
Reading the bible requires the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Holy Spirit is the good teacher.
It is not what we understand. It is the teaching of the Holy Spirit matters cause it gives life. Means it is for Eternal Life.
1 JOHN 2:27
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
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Moses later stood on the mount of transfiguration, in Canaan.

how did Peter know it was Moses?
did he have a name tag? had Peter seen photographs on Moses's instagram account?

;)


the scope grows hehe
 
Godsgood said:
It means Jesus was born night time cause the 3 wise men needs the guidance of the shining star.
We need the shine of the star during night time and not during day time.
It is understood that Jesus was born at night time.

Why Jesus born at night time.
Because the world was in darkness because it is being deceit by the Devil .
REVELATION 12:9
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And the world need Jesus because Jesus is the light of the World.
And so was Jesus exposing the people living in darkness or under the deceitful of the Devil.

That is the significance why Jesus was born at night time.

It is a different topic and perhaps in different thread on how Jesus took away those people living in darkness and what is the darkness in the eyes of God.

Let us go back with the topic of this thread.
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You should read Rev. 22:18-19
 
posthuman said:
Moses later stood on the mount of transfiguration, in Canaan.

how did Peter know it was Moses?
did he have a name tag? had Peter seen photographs on Moses's instagram account?

;)


the scope grows hehe
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Do you not know that men did NOT write the Bible? God wrote it through a few apostles; all Scripture is through the inspiration of God, God breathed.

So now you can answer your question as to how they knew it was Moses.
 
TruthDefender said:
Do you not know that men did NOT write the Bible? God wrote it through a few apostles; all Scripture is through the inspiration of God, God breathed.

So now you can answer your question as to how they knew it was Moses.
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no one understands anything at all unless God grants it.

what i am inquiring about are the details.

if you saw Abraham Lincoln, you would recognize him by physical resemblance to paintings and photographs you've seen - but this isn't how Peter k rw it was Moses and Elijah.

how, then? specifically the mechanics of how?
 
TruthDefender said:
I never said anything about deleting the OT.
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good.

so, the thread topic is equivalent to why David taking a census was sin. and Jesus telling people not to reveal He is the Messiah. Peter had to go catch a fish without a boat to pay his temple tax because Adam's girdle of fig leaves needed to be replaced by a tunic of lambs hide; do you see that?

do you see why this topic matters?
because Christ is crucified for you!
 
posthuman said:
Peter had to go catch a fish without a boat to pay his temple tax because Adam's girdle of fig leaves needed to be replaced by a tunic of lambs hide
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and if Peter hadn't blurted out that yes his Master pays the tax, he would not have had to go discover a coin at all!

but our Master has covered our fee, and Peter fulfilled prophecy.
 
Godsgood said:
It means Jesus was born night time cause the 3 wise men needs the guidance of the shining star.
We need the shine of the star during night time and not during day time.
It is understood that Jesus was born at night time.

Why Jesus born at night time.
Because the world was in darkness because it is being deceit by the Devil .
REVELATION 12:9
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And the world need Jesus because Jesus is the light of the World.
And so was Jesus exposing the people living in darkness or under the deceitful of the Devil.

That is the significance why Jesus was born at night time.

It is a different topic and perhaps in different thread on how Jesus took away those people living in darkness and what is the darkness in the eyes of God.

Let us go back with the topic of this thread.
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Sorry, I will try again, because it seems you didn't understand what I wrote before. You say that Jesus must have been born at night because the wise men (the bible doesn't tell us there were three) followed a star to Bethlehem. But as I said, by the time they arrived in Bethlehem, Jesus was anything up to two years old, and was with Mary in a house, not lying in a manger as a new-born baby. So the wise men following the star does not indicate what time of day Jesus was born. Hopefully that is a bit clearer. Sorry if I wasn't clear before.
 
Godsgood said:
It means Jesus was born night time cause the 3 wise men needs the guidance of the shining star.
We need the shine of the star during night time and not during day time.
It is understood that Jesus was born at night time.
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Our sun is a star...

Why Jesus born at night time.
Because the world was in darkness because it is being deceit by the Devil .
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The world still is in darkness, and unbelievers are defined as darkness, also.

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2 Corinthians 4 v 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
 
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● Matt 2:3-6 . .When Herod the king had heard these things, he was
troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief
priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where
Christ should be born. And they said unto him: In Bethlehem of Judaea: for
thus it is written by the prophet, "And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Judea,
art not the least among the princes of Judea: for out of thee shall come a
Governor, that shall rule my people Israel."

The thing is: as the Earth turns, stars appear to move across the sky from
the east towards the west. The wise men's star broke with nature and moved
directly south from Jerusalem to Bethlehem of Judea, which is a stellar behavior
that should alert planetarium managers that it wasn't an astronomical object.

● Matt 2:9 . . It stopped over the place where the child was.

Normal celestial objects are so far out in space that it's nigh unto impossible
to tell the exact spot on earth where one of them is directly overhead at any
given moment without special instruments; so I think we can be reasonably
confident that this star was low enough that there was no mistaking the
exact house where young Jesus was lodged. In other words; this star wasn't
an authentic star, rather, it was an apparition.

FAQ: How did the wise men know their star was associated with the Jews?

REPLY: Matt 2:12 strongly suggests their entire odyssey was supervised from
start to finish so that when the men spotted the star back home in the east,
they were at the same time informed by God as to its purpose and urged to
pack up and head for the land of Israel; specifically the city of Jerusalem
because that's always been a sort of Washington DC for David's dynasty.
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posthuman said:
no one understands anything at all unless God grants it.

what i am inquiring about are the details.

if you saw Abraham Lincoln, you would recognize him by physical resemblance to paintings and photographs you've seen - but this isn't how Peter k rw it was Moses and Elijah.

how, then? specifically the mechanics of how?
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Again, you’re not connecting the dots! Jesus was there with them…..
 
DavidLamb said:
Sorry, I will try again, because it seems you didn't understand what I wrote before. You say that Jesus must have been born at night because the wise men (the bible doesn't tell us there were three) followed a star to Bethlehem. But as I said, by the time they arrived in Bethlehem, Jesus was anything up to two years old, and was with Mary in a house, not lying in a manger as a new-born baby. So the wise men following the star does not indicate what time of day Jesus was born. Hopefully that is a bit clearer. Sorry if I wasn't clear before.
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Yes, you may try again by elaborating more.
 
Godsgood said:
Here are the two examples of 2 witnesses in which the 1st witness statement is not true.
And the 2nd statement of the 2nd witness based on 1st witness statement is the truth.

1st Example:

DESTROY THIS TEMPLE.
JOHN 2:19
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

1st witness is the Literal temple in which man's understand (Not True)
JOHN 2:17 & 20
17 And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

2nd Witness based on the statement of 1st Witness Temple (Truth)
JOHN 2:21-22
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

2nd Example:

LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES and the Sadducees.
MATTHEW 16:6
6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

1st Witness is the leaven that we mix to the bread (Not True)
MATTHEW 16:7
7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread.

2nd Witness based on the statement of 1st Witness Leaven means Wrong Doctrine (Truth)
MATTHEW 16:8-12
8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?
9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Because the Apostles of Christ forgot that Jesus is Speaking in Parables (Mark 4:34) serve as the 1st witness only. So he reminded them and said "O YE OF LITTLE FAITH"!

This is what God the Father said (Psalms 78:2 & Ezekiel 20:49) that he is speaking in Parables.
1st Witness serve as Parables because it is not True yet.

But the 2nd witness who witnesses what the 1st witness statement or the revelation of God in his parable words is the Truth.
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Another Example.

One night, Nicodemus came to Jesus.
Nicodemus is a wise and respected man in his time.

1st Witness: Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. What man's clearly understand is not true (John 3:4).
JOHN 3:1-3
3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

It so happened that the word Born Again is use to establish sect in Christianity.

2nd Witness:
 
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