Because if that's how God created it and it works out that way then it's 100% successful.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Yes, of that day. Those who would understand what Paul is directly talking about.
I thought you believed individuals are under conviction. Wouldn't volitional choice come when conviction promotes a saving choice or fails to do so?
That is not what Luke said despite your lies to the contrary.
Unfortunately you love adding to and also taking away from what is actually said.
It is a real problem with FWers, open theists, Hebrew roots etc.
The Gospel and the Spirit put unbelievers under conviction—or, translated another way, work to convince them of Truth. They do not fail, but faithfully present Truth for the unbeliever to choose to believe or to reject.
The unbeliever who can neither receive nor comprehend, or the one who can?
Because there is a difference most FWers fail to grasp. Most if not all.
Which is why they continually conflate the unregenerated man with the spiritual man.
And it is in fact the line free willers cannot cross in their adherence to their idol.
Then again you love to mock the idea of people being spiritually dead in need of new life in Christ.
Which is truly quite baffling. It is like you fail to grasp even the rudiments of Christianity.
If people cannot seperate the spiritual dead man with the spiritually born again man then they need to get back to the basics becausue the natural man has no inkling of the things of God not spiritually anyways they can study the bible and get knowledge of God but to percieve the things of God one must be born again period
That's one way of looking at I guess.
But Regardless of what condition. Of numbness a person is in or at with a heart of stone.
What's your thoughts on all people being born with heart of stone.
Baring in mind I've already pointed out it's not just a bad thing.
Simply put if being born with a heart of stone was just a bad thing none would be saved in my view.
Which is why they need to strip 1 Cor 2:14 of its true meaning and rewrite it to suit their programmed way of thinking.
Though really that verse is just one nail in the coffin of their idol. There are plenty, and they treat them all similarly.
Like Romans 8:7, and John 14:17. Where God's Word says "can't" or "cannot" they say "can."
When are you leaving!?
I was very busy yesterday but did read one of your posts wherein you essentially stated God while God loves all men in the world [in the distributive sense], He especially loves believers. You, too, have so little awareness (if any) of the implications to what you write!
First of all, your statement qualified God's love to believers, since it's perfectly logical to infer that God does NOT love the wicked in the same manner as the saints! Therefore, you have limited God's special love to one particular group of people: Believers! In so doing, you have unwittingly admitted that God does, after all, love people unequally!
A second serious implication to your ill-conceived notion is that God is very confused and conflicted; for on one hand He loves all wicked mankind unconditionally, yet at the same time He also loves his saints conditionally! He loves his saints because they are believers, God-Fearers, righteous and love His Son -- all of which are conditions!
It appears you have little or no affinity for biblical truth or for sound logic!
P.S. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out...
Considering how often she has told us how unfair God is if He is not the same from one person to the next...
Ah, well, we are just back to how they can hardly help contradicting themselves when they are so steeped in error.
Perhaps when they use that free will to choose which socks to wear, they should choose those with a non-slip grip.
Determinist hogwash.
[Luk 15:7 KJV] 7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
False! Heart-held, heart-felt belief "is simply Scriptural"! Has God promised in the New Covenant made with his covenant people that He would equip them with a new volition or a new heart? Or has God promised to circumcise his chosen people's volitions or their hearts?
believers are victims of satan when they fail to stand strong in faith against the wiles of the devil ... and if and when that happens, God has given instruction to the born again one ...
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
and that does not negate the fact that when we sin it is due to being drawn away from the Lord ... and drawn to the things of this world which is under the control of satan.
and don't tell me you don't sin because that would make you a liar ...
1 John 1:
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
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10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
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Repentance, too, is a gift of God! The very essence of the precious gift of the Fear of the Lord is that those who possess this gift shun, avoid and turn from evil! So, this is very good news for God's elect. The bad news for you FWers is that this gift was never promised to the world at large. It was promised only to God's covenant people!
Yep the scriptures are very clear you literally have to rewrite it to make it say something else in order for them to have their ideas and understanding fit.
I mean it literally says it right there I do not see or understand how one can not accept this as truth it doesn't even make sense