Why God the Father considered this fruit as forbidden?
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I see.
You are on a mission.... and have been trained specifically to say what you do.
Just say it as you were told.
If you identify as Christian,are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, called according to what we are reassured of as God's grace in 1st Corinthians 2, aren't you?
Do we all have time to ponder the truth that God deemed disbelief/disobedience to be forbidden fruit
in order to actualize humanness/MFW, thereby making souls both capable of loving and accountable for hating (Deut. 30:19)?
in order to actualize humanness/MFW, thereby making souls both capable of loving and accountable for hating (Deut. 30:19)?
moral free will, as indicated by:
Gen. 3:4. The serpent contradicted God and thereby tempted Adam and Eve to commit the first sin. In GN 2:17, God had told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but the serpent introduced the option of ungodliness or functional atheism, which they chose. The first or original sin was not eating physical fruit, but rather choosing not to doubt the Devil, not to cooperate with God, and not asking God why the serpent contradicted what He had told them (MT 7:7). It is wise to question God.
Deut. 30:19. We have moral free will, which makes us accountable for our attitudes and actions, our belief and behavior, with ultimate logical or appropriate consequences, which are termed heaven or hell (cf. Lesson 1). It is this teaching that explains why this life has so much pain and hatred: Most of it results from human sinfulness/ungodliness. If humanity spent as much energy trying to solve problems as it has engaged in KOTH, earthly life would be almost heavenly.
TOJ #136: Souls have free will. [Matt. 23:37//LK 13:34] They may choose to understand God’s Word or not, to their own blessing or misery. God permits people to resists His will {John 19:11}. Although souls are influenced by both heredity and environment, they remain free/responsible to choose the curse of rejecting God, which grieves Him greatly (Eph. 4:30). {John 7:17}. (See TOJ #71.)
TOP #10: Although God’s creation reveals His power and love, godless people suppress truth and exchange it for the lie of idolatry. [Rom. 1:18-25, cf. #3] This is what Adam and Eve did. Paul says men are without excuse, both because God’s eternal power and moral nature (love) are manifested by creation (cf. Job 12:7-9). Apparently, creation combined with conscience or moral sense (Rom. 2:14-16) that manifests a moral Authority TOP #23)–and combined with OT law for the Jew (TOP #22)–serves as a provisional or proto-gospel (Col. 1:23, Rom. 10:13-18, Gal. 3:8), which is the revelational basis for divine salvation and judgment (TOP #24-26 & 281).
thanks.
it's evident Adam had free will from the very beginning, because he 'freely ate' of the garden and independently chose names for every living soul. this also indicates he was able to make value judgments and decide between good and bad choices - i.e. he was not incapable of distinguishing good from evil.
it's also evident that God can overrule human free will from the beginning at His sovereign pleasure, as He took Adam from where he was created and set him in the garden, without volition from Adam.
imo one of the key deceptions of Satan to Woman was making her believe she was not truly free until she actually chose evil - - that the mere presence of the tree of dying did not give her independence.
it should be asked, how did Satan fall? is there a tree of dying in heaven?
not sure we all agree, but in the time line i believe his sin and fall must take place in the middle of Genesis 1:1 - after the creation of the heavens and before the earth was formless and void and covered with waters, like a flood.
the scriptures don't speak directly about how this happened, only that he was perfect 'until sin was found in him' and that he spread sin to other angels 'by the abundance of traffic' indicating a kind of buying/selling, or trading, if you will.
Adam wasn't deceived. the only record we have is of Satan attacking 'the weaker vessel'
did Satan try, and fail, to deceive/murder Adam? how many times? when? prior to the creation of Woman or after? both? or never at all? did Adam also name the serpent? what was his process for choosing a name? how long did it take?
was there an unrecorded corollary to Matthew 4, in Genesis 2?
Question:
Who?
What?
Made/forced/ you to believe you do not have free will?
Within our God decreed domain for making human choices?
God has granted this ability via the authority of our volition.
But... When it comes to our choices concerning God?
God must supply His power of Grace to enable our soul to think beyond the depravity of Our flesh.
It is all about grace!
Who?
What?
Made/forced/ you to believe you do not have free will?
Within our God decreed domain for making human choices?
God has granted this ability via the authority of our volition.
But... When it comes to our choices concerning God?
God must supply His power of Grace to enable our soul to think beyond the depravity of Our flesh.
It is all about grace!
But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”
Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may
rest on me.
2 Corinthians 12:9
..................... Yes, it will be interesting to learn more about Satan and other angels when we get to heaven.
I find angelology rather confusing.
One you seem to take issue with.
My prior post was my answer. I'll make it simpler. Yes.
All indwelt sealed Christians are.
How are you sure. Maybe you are a chosen one maybe your not. According to the calvinites not everyone who belives is chosen. At any rate. Hope your right but accusing God of causing the fall of Adam might not help you. Good luck.
I know who you are on a different forum.
Your bigotry blinds you to the truth of what God is.
You take satisfaction in that barb at the end of your rant.
That's pathetic.
Romans 9:16
So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy.
