Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Since humble men end up as winners how then are you accusing me of not being humble?
"Take note" ...
HeIsHere's point:
Rufus' point:
Rufus, we all "take note" of the fact that you quoted vs 26 in your futile effort to respond to a point made by HeIsHere ... HeIsHere's point has been Scripturally substantiated by vs 25
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live
and I pray you will "take note".
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The lack of honesty some of them evince is really ... what is a good word for it? Like saying they do not conflateFWers don't do metaphors. Those pesky figures of speech were never meant for readers to draw parallels from...
spiritual death with physical death even though they have more than once told others to go preach in cemeteries.
Their meaning is plain and their lies blatantly obvious. But they also scoff at the idea of being held accountable.
It is not for them. The idea that man is not such a bad guy in their theology should be shown to be false by their
very own behaviour, and yet they are blind to that also. That last panel came as a result of the bastardization one
of our FWers presented of Jesus' words; he claimed only those who choose to sin are slaves to sin and that is only
atheists. When in actual fact Jesus said that everyone who sins is a slave to sin. FWers reject and rewrite Scripture.
False. Man can know good and not be able to perform it. What you fail to acknowledge is the natural man is hostile to God and cannot receive spiritual things, yet have him in this estate acting in subservience to God and comprehending spiritual things and engaged in spiritual activity. That's simply impossible.
They are not fond of universal axioms either.FWers don't do metaphors. Those pesky figures of speech were never meant for readers to draw parallels from...
His sheep hear. Who else? You say everyone. Jesus disagrees.
Jesus needs to open people's deaf ears. Oh, but you say something completely different, don't you?
According to you man is born with everything he needs to come to belief.
You object to what Scripture says. Contradict and outright deny it.
To be honest, I think that you, I and many others know and understand the root cause.
No honest heart can RECEIVE NOT the teachings that undergird sound doctrine.
Paul affirmed this also although FWers deny it repeatedly. It is their go-to mantra = deny, deny, deny.
Romans 8 verse 7a, Galatians 5 verse 17, John 1 verse 5, John 14 verse 17 ~ The mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. The flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. Darkness does not comprehend the Light. The world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.
2 Corinthians 4 v 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
I don't hink where on the same page.
No matter it's ok
To answer your question who's act of faith was counted as righteousness was Abraham.
But the most convincing scripture that i believe who the lord will decide who will be his children is this, God took Abraham outside and he said look up to sky son, you see all those stars, your offspring will be as numerous as those stars.
Important to note here is God is telling this knowing his future and his off
springs future.
And Abraham believed, and so God accounted that to him for righteousness.
Its important to understand here at the moment in which the lord accounted Abraham belief for righteousness, that what is really meant here is the lords righteousness
still more wrangling away the fact that mankind can know good.
Romans 1:16-19 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it [the gospel of Christ] is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
only two responses to the preaching of the gospel:
believe and receive the blessing
suppress the truth in unrighteousness and receive the consequence
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Well you still have not demonstrated that regeneration is separate from eternal life such that God gives one and not the other and belief is somewhere in the middle, I guess.
Your assertion remains very weak... kinda like this,
"The cross" functions as a potent metaphor in several ways, symbolizing both the suffering and death
of Jesus Christ and the process of spiritual transformation for believers, representing sacrifice, redemption,
death to self, and hope amidst suffering. Christians widely understand the cross to mean not just the physical
wood upon which Jesus hung, but to convey deeper spiritual truths about God's nature, the atonement for sin,
and the call to follow Jesus. None of which you seem to understand. Oh, that's right. Spiritual things do not
exist in your theology. Spiritual revelation is not something God promised according to you. According to
you it is something to make fun of and try to shame people for affirming. Who is the author of your theology?
So? Are you suggesting that this changes the estate of the natural man?
Take a look at Acts 7 and see what the natural man did armed with that information. They can even condone it for religious reasons. But their behavior revealed their hostility and lack of spirituality. I'll grant that this is a worst case scenario, but it remains impossible for those of a hostile mind and spiritually dead to comply with God and engage in spiritual activity.
As is ALWAYS the case.....this is reactionary judgement due for WILLFUL unbelief.
Forty years worth of opportunity GIVEN in good faith, opportunity REJECTED in bad faith. Then comes the judgement.
Deu 29:2
And Moses called unto all Israel, and said unto them, Ye have seen all that the LORD did before your eyes in the land of Egypt unto Pharaoh, and unto all his servants, and unto all his land;
Deu 29:3
The great temptations which thine eyes have seen, the signs, and those great miracles:
Deu 30:1
And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
Deu 30:2
And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
Deu 30:3
That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
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And here is the NT parallel. Opportunity GIVEN in good faith, opportunity REJECTED in bad faith.
Jesus is unfailingly consistent and perfectly just in this, and never prejudiced.
All of this a total repudiation of all things determinist BTW.
Luk 10:13
Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
[Luk 10:14 KJV]
But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you.
[Luk 10:15 KJV]
And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.
[Luk 10:16 KJV]
He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.