Why God the Father considered this fruit as forbidden?

[Godsgood]

No, I wasn't asking God the Father. I was asking you, because it was you, not God the Father, who posted on this forum the idea that even if Adam and Eve had not sinned, they would still have died that day. That goes against what God said to Adam:

““but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”” (Ge 2:17 NKJV)

He didn't say, "Even if you don't eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you will still die."

We are not told directly what would have happened if Adam and Eve had not eaten the forbidden fruit, but we are told that death came into the world by sin, and it was a sin to eat the forbidden fruit:

“Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned—” (Ro 5:12 NKJV)

I was asking you, because it was you, not God the Father, who posted on this forum
Oh no! Do not ask me or else you will be cursed by God.
JEREMIAH 17:5
5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.

Jesus in his 2nd role as Son of the living God is my model (1 Peter 2:21).
When it comes to God or the words of God I know nothing.
We both from earth and God is from heaven.
Therefore only God who can answer the question pertaining to Salvation.
JOHN 5:19
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

In the first place it is God the Father who forbid the fruit and so we should ask him why.

Whoever received the revelation or the answer of God the Father to the question he is free to share here. Then we will find out if it is not contradicting the words of God.

If it is contradicting then the answer is just from man and not from God.

 

[Godsgood]

The above citation is apparently your answer to my question, "Where is this stated in Scripture?", which I asked in response to your statement:

"God gave his chosen a discernment if the person who ask question is seeking truth answer or not."

This verse does not support your assertion in any way . So, again, where in Scripture is the above (bold) stated?

Even I will answer 100 times you never believe what is the truth because there is no truth to the person who can't identify who God the Father is.

 

[Godsgood]

No, I wasn't asking God the Father. I was asking you, because it was you, not God the Father, who posted on this forum the idea that even if Adam and Eve had not sinned, they would still have died that day. That goes against what God said to Adam:

““but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”” (Ge 2:17 NKJV)

He didn't say, "Even if you don't eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you will still die."

We are not told directly what would have happened if Adam and Eve had not eaten the forbidden fruit, but we are told that death came into the world by sin, and it was a sin to eat the forbidden fruit:

“Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned—” (Ro 5:12 NKJV)

I just shared what is in your post that Adam & Eve did die on that day because 1 day to God is 1,000 years to man.

Adam & Eve even they did not eat the forbidden fruit they will not reach 1,000 years old.

I thought you are seeking for the truth answer according to God. But you are trying to hear my answer to say it is not true.

 

[DavidLamb]

I was asking you, because it was you, not God the Father, who posted on this forum
Oh no! Do not ask me or else you will be cursed by God.
JEREMIAH 17:5
5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.


Jesus in his 2nd role as Son of the living God is my model (1 Peter 2:21).
When it comes to God or the words of God I know nothing.
We both from earth and God is from heaven.
Therefore only God who can answer the question pertaining to Salvation.
JOHN 5:19
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

In the first place it is God the Father who forbid the fruit and so we should ask him why.

Whoever received the revelation or the answer of God the Father to the question he is free to share here. Then we will find out if it is not contradicting the words of God.

If it is contradicting then the answer is just from man and not from God.

So if you write something in a post on this forum, and I ask you a question about it, I am cursed by God? Asking you about your post is only going against what Jeremiah 17:5 says if I trust you instead of trusting God, if I depart from the Lord. I certainly was not doing that. I was simply asking you about the meaning of your post where you said that Adam and Eve would have died on that day even if they hadn't sinned.

You say we should ask God why He forbade the fruit. As far as I know, He has not told us. He certainly did not tell Adam. He simply said:

“16 ¶ And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 “but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”” (Ge 2:16-17 NKJV)

 

[DavidLamb]

I just shared what is in your post that Adam & Eve did die on that day because 1 day to God is 1,000 years to man.

Adam & Eve even they did not eat the forbidden fruit they will not reach 1,000 years old.

I thought you are seeking for the truth answer according to God. But you are trying to hear my answer to say it is not true.

But the bible does not say that one day with the Lord is a thousand years to man. It says:

“But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” (2Pe 3:8 NKJV)

"As a thousand years" means "like a thousand years."

Where do you read in the bible that if Adam and Eve had not eaten the forbidden fruit they would not reach the age of a thousand years?

 

[Sipsey]

i do believe it is better to teach to fish than to simply give a fish,
but that when it is in your hand to do good and you do not, it is sin.

its pretty hard to go fishing when you haven't eaten anything. why not share a meal while on the boat?

Indeed, the Jews not sharing the good things of God with the surrounding nations was a direct cause of much of their problems.

 

[posthuman]

Well; unless I'm reading Rom 5:12-21 very incorrectly, there was no death
in the woman until the man tasted the fruit.
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the woman was first in sin - 1 Tim 2:14
the wages of sin is death - Romans 6:23

to me it seems, her sin/death didn't enter the world, only herself, but Adam's did.

 

[posthuman]

Interesting point:

The Greek's meaning... All sinned in one point of time.

.......

as in Hebrews when it is said, Levi paid tithe to Melchizadek because he was in Abraham's loins

 

[Dino246]

Even I will answer 100 times you never believe what is the truth because there is no truth to the person who can't identify who God the Father is.

Just answer the question. Save the foolish false judgment for your conversations with yourself.

 

[posthuman]

How could he understand?
He did not possess the capacity to understand consequence. Good,evil,right,wrong,
obedience,disobedience.

how is it God gives him a command and he knows it is right to obey it wrong not to, he tends the garden, he freely eats from it, choosing what to take and what not to, and he names every living soul, if he doesn't know his right hand from his left?

is a complete idiot with zero mental & moral capacity really your idea of 'created after God's image'?

 

[wolfwint]

See, I'm not answering yet but you already judge that my answer is not true.

This proves that you are not seeking for the answer according to the truth.
Lord Jesus always exposes those people who don't want to involve in the truth.
MATTHEW 22:11-14
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

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See, I'm not answering yet but you already judge that my answer is not true.

This proves that you are not seeking for the answer according to the truth.
Lord Jesus always exposes those people who don't want to involve in the truth.
MATTHEW 22:11-14
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

You always distracting! If someone is telling me: I have the answer, I have the answer. But is not telling what the answer is, then it is for me clear that he has not the answer!
You behaviour is the same. You are telling: i have the answer. But you avoid to tell the answer. So my conclusion is: you dont have the answer!!

 

[Doll]

how is it God gives him a command and he knows it is right to obey it wrong not to, he tends the garden, he freely eats from it, choosing what to take and what not to, and he names every living soul, if he doesn't know his right hand from his left?

is a complete idiot with zero mental & moral capacity really your idea of 'created after God's image'?

Only God knows.
That's why said,and after they ate of the tree, the man has become like us,knowing good and evil.

After eating,the man being made first in the image and likeness of God had only then become like God. Knowing good and evil.

 

[Doll]

how is it God gives him a command and he knows it is right to obey it wrong not to, he tends the garden, he freely eats from it, choosing what to take and what not to, and he names every living soul, if he doesn't know his right hand from his left?

is a complete idiot with zero mental & moral capacity really your idea of 'created after God's image'?

Only God knows.
That's why said,and after they ate of the tree, the man has become like us,knowing good and evil.

After eating,the man being made first in the image and likeness of God had only then become like God. Knowing good and evil.

 

[Webers.Home]

Why put that tree there in the first place?

There are doubtless large numbers of folks out there who sincerely believe
God should be held accountable for product liability and/or entrapment.

Also; seeing as how nothing escapes God's notice then I think we may safely
assume He watched the entire forbidden fruit incident from first to last and
could've stepped in at any time and prevented the Adams from making a
terrible mistake.
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[Doll]

There are doubtless large numbers of folks out there who sincerely believe
God should be held accountable for product liability and/or entrapment.

Also; seeing as how nothing escapes God's notice then I think we may safely
assume He watched the entire forbidden fruit incident from first to last and
could've stepped in at any time and prevented the Adams from making a
terrible mistake.
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Adam didn't make a mistake.

Adam and Eve were following the destiny God preordained before creating the world.

 

[DeanM]

God loved His creation and wanted love in return. He wanted to recieve it because Adam chose to give it, not because he had no choice. God didnt want a robot so the choice was there. Adam failed.

 

[Doll]

God loved His creation and wanted love in return. He wanted to recieve it because Adam chose to give it, not because he had no choice. God didnt want a robot so the choice was there. Adam failed.

Adam obeyed.

Jesus is the lamb slain for the sins of the world,before the world was created.

 

[Doll]

Proverbs 16:4
The Lord has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.

 

[Webers.Home]

He did not possess the capacity to understand consequence.

To my knowledge, mankind is the only creature that God made in His own
image and likeness so I think we may safely assume human life is sacred
whereas all other forms of life on Earth are expendable.

Quite a few of the Christians that I've encountered online sincerely believe
there was no death of any kind anywhere on Earth among man, animals,
and/or vegetation until Adam tasted the forbidden fruit but I tend to suspect
that Adam was very familiar with the temporary longevity of lesser creatures
all 'round him so that God didn't have to a take time out to explain what it
means to lose one's life.

In other words; it appears to me that the death discussed by Rom 5:12-21
pertains to death in the human sphere rather than death in every sphere
imaginable.
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[Webers.Home]

the wages of sin is death; Romans 6:23

A comprehensive discussion of that passage would involve the introduction
of dispensations; which I am not adequately trained to do. So all I can really
say for for now is that Rom 6:23 didn't apply in Eve's day.
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