No heaven for me

[tablet123]

I decided I do not want to be in heaven.

If I have to be in heaven with all you numbskulls and hypocrites forget it.

What I am saying if once saved always saved is true and observing the hypocrisy that proceeds from these people because they love sin thinking they cannot fall then I do not want to be in heaven.

These people do not care about being Christlike but like to enjoy sin.

And I have witnessed it time and time again looking at their lifestyle as they enjoy sin loving worldliness thinking they are alright.

If it is true then forget being in heaven if these half breeds that do not care about the ways of God and are ashamed of Jesus' ways by their hypocrisy can be in heaven.

I decline to be in heaven with these people.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Of course these people will not be in heaven and cannot come to the truth.

And do not say they care about being Christlike for I have seen their lifestyle time after time that they are worldly but their numbskull selves think they are alright.

Loving them ole' fleshy pleasures more than God.

Loving money, worldly music, worldly shows and movies, loving spending money on entertaining their flesh.

Which I have seen abundantly with these people.

Thinking they are saved by faith alone.

But love is greater than faith and faith works by love.

But these numbskulls think they are alright despite their sins but love does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth.

But they say we are not perfect, we are only human, we cannot abstain from sin.

But the Bible says if we are led of the Spirit we can abstain from sin for we have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Which is why the Bible says turn away from these people that are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God for they give Christianity a bad name.

Which the people that believe once saved always saved love those fleshy pleasures like a big dog making excuses for their fleshy loving selves.

I wanted to delete this post because I do not want to come across as mean but it will not let me do it.



Causing people to look at Christianity as false and they are hypocrites.

Well thanks a lot for turning people away.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I want to encourage you to go on in Christ and persevere.

Hebrews 12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, 2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3 Consider him who endured such opposition from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

So keep your eyes on Jesus. He knows who belongs to Him.

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness.”

 

[shittim]

Wow, you have a lot of negative energy, musty have taken a while of spiritual lethargy to get there.
By the same judgement we ourselves judge others, we ourselves will be judged.
You just spent your post railing against others when we each need to focus on what He wants each of us to do by His guidance, this indicates an outward form of godliness that denies the power He died to bring us.
best wishes, friend

 

[Genenco]

Didn't Paul say "For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I" in short we still have a war going on inside ourselves, we crave the dark but we seek the light.

Plus don't forget when we appear before Jesus he will command those who are hypocrites "Begone from me, I never knew you"

 

[Magenta]

1 Corinthians 2 v 9 ~ No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.

 

[Magenta]

John 14:1-3 Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My presence, so that you also may be where I am.

 

[Doll]

I decided I do not want to be in heaven.

If I have to be in heaven with all you numbskulls and hypocrites forget it.

What I am saying if once saved always saved is true and observing the hypocrisy that proceeds from these people because they love sin thinking they cannot fall then I do not want to be in heaven.

These people do not care about being Christlike but like to enjoy sin.

And I have witnessed it time and time again looking at their lifestyle as they enjoy sin loving worldliness thinking they are alright.

If it is true then forget being in heaven if these half breeds that do not care about the ways of God and are ashamed of Jesus' ways by their hypocrisy can be in heaven.

I decline to be in heaven with these people.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Of course these people will not be in heaven and cannot come to the truth.

And do not say they care about being Christlike for I have seen their lifestyle time after time that they are worldly but their numbskull selves think they are alright.

Loving them ole' fleshy pleasures more than God.

Loving money, worldly music, worldly shows and movies, loving spending money on entertaining their flesh.

Which I have seen abundantly with these people.

Thinking they are saved by faith alone.

But love is greater than faith and faith works by love.

But these numbskulls think they are alright despite their sins but love does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth.

But they say we are not perfect, we are only human, we cannot abstain from sin.

But the Bible says if we are led of the Spirit we can abstain from sin for we have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Which is why the Bible says turn away from these people that are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God for they give Christianity a bad name.

Which the people that believe once saved always saved love those fleshy pleasures like a big dog making excuses for their fleshy loving selves.

I wanted to delete this post because I do not want to come across as mean but it will not let me do it.



Causing people to look at Christianity as false and they are hypocrites.

Well thanks a lot for turning people away.

Consider this those in Christ do not make a habit of sinning. If they do,they do not know Christ. And he does not know them.

Therefore, don't worry. You'll not run into those you described.

 

[tablet123]

I wanted to delete the post but you cannot delete it with a new thread.

But I could edit it which I put I wanted to delete it.

So I could of erased it all and put I will not post what I was going to post or not put anything and it probably would be a hung thread.

I think I wanted to write my frustration down at the hypocrites and then delete it.

Sorry for saying numbskulls.

I do not want to come across as mean.

Hypocrisy is why many people do not come to God.

So it seems like for that fact alone people would not want to be hypocritical.

But it does not matter to once saved always saved people because if they were chosen in the beginning they are saved and if not they are not saved.

So their behavior has no impact on the outcome of a person's fate.

But if they are wrong and we have a choice then they are doing much damage because of their hypocrisy.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

God wants all people to be saved.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Luk 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation.

Predestination means God had the plan to give mankind salvation from the foundation of the world.

But this salvation is to whoever wants it for God wants all people to be saved.

 

[GWH]

I decided I do not want to be in heaven.

If I have to be in heaven with all you numbskulls and hypocrites forget it.

What I am saying if once saved always saved is true and observing the hypocrisy that proceeds from these people because they love sin thinking they cannot fall then I do not want to be in heaven.

These people do not care about being Christlike but like to enjoy sin.

And I have witnessed it time and time again looking at their lifestyle as they enjoy sin loving worldliness thinking they are alright.

If it is true then forget being in heaven if these half breeds that do not care about the ways of God and are ashamed of Jesus' ways by their hypocrisy can be in heaven.

I decline to be in heaven with these people.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Of course these people will not be in heaven and cannot come to the truth.

And do not say they care about being Christlike for I have seen their lifestyle time after time that they are worldly but their numbskull selves think they are alright.

Loving them ole' fleshy pleasures more than God.
Loving money, worldly music, worldly shows and movies, loving spending money on entertaining their flesh.
Which I have seen abundantly with these people.
Thinking they are saved by faith alone.
But love is greater than faith and faith works by love.

But these numbskulls think they are alright despite their sins but love does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth.
But they say we are not perfect, we are only human, we cannot abstain from sin.
But the Bible says if we are led of the Spirit we can abstain from sin for we have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Which is why the Bible says turn away from these people that are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God for they give Christianity a bad name.
Which the people that believe once saved always saved love those fleshy pleasures like a big dog making excuses for their fleshy loving selves.
I wanted to delete this post because I do not want to come across as mean but it will not let me do it.
Causing people to look at Christianity as false and they are hypocrites.

Well thanks a lot for turning people away.

No one achieves moral perfection in this life (Phil. 3:12), but no one who lacks divine love will reap eternal life with God (Gal. 6:7-8). Thus, a person who claims to be godly but who is behaving in an ungodly (unloving, untruthful) manner may be in one of the following categories:

a. a normally loving person observed during a rare moment when he/she acted uncharacteristically (Phil. 3:12-16),

b. an immature Believer, who is making progress–you should have known him/her a year ago! (1Cor. 3:1-3, Eph. 4:11-15)

c. a truthseeker who has not yet learned the correct interpretation of God’s Word (1Cor. 6:9-11, Eph. 5:8-9),

d. a pseudo-Christian (Matt. 7:21, 1John 2:19), who may affirm morality while rejecting its divine rationale.

e. an apostate (1John 2:19, Heb. 6:4-6), who once believed but became blasphemous or foolish and ship-wrecked their faith
(1Tim. 1:19-20).

Paul listed some sins he implied genuine Christians would not typically commit (in 1Cor. 6:9-10), saying: “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” Apparently, although a new Christian might commit such sins occasionally, it is inconceivable (because antithetical to NT teaching) that a mature Christian would commit them so typically that the person could be classified as an adulterer, for example. Atheists might try to practice the “Golden Rule”, but the key issue for them on judgment day will be explaining what good reason they had for rejecting God rather than glorifying Him as the One who determines what is good/golden.

Sinners can overcome selfishness only by becoming one with Christ via faith in Him/God as Lord and thereby sharing His goodness because of union with His/God’s Holy Spirit. This spiritual union is denoted by references to those who have saving faith as children of God the Father (Rom. 8:14-16). This is why Christianity is a relationship with God motivated by gratitude for God’s grace (Psa. 100, Eph. 2:4-8) rather than a legalistic religion of working to merit God’s mercy because of fear of punishment.

Again, the evidence of saving faith or satisfying GRFS is working faith, love or helping humanity (John 13:35). Disciples of Jesus (or Believers) tend to love and help others, not by virtue of their own goodness, but because they are moved or motivated by the loving Spirit of the Lord. Christians love everyone by reflecting God’s love (Matt. 5:44&48, 1Tim. 2:3-4, Rom. 5:5-8 & 1John 4:7-19). Humans can never become good enough to earn or merit salvation as a reward for right behavior. A person cannot be good by doing good. Those who try to attain heaven by imitating Christ-like behavior without accepting Christ’s Lordship and atonement do not merely fall short (Rom. 3:23) but actually go in the opposite direction (Gal. 5:4), so we should cooperate with God’s Way.

Someone who does not hunger and thirst after righteousness (Matt. 5:6) and LGW (Psa. 119:9) needs to reevaluate the sincerity of his/her profession of faith in the Lord. As Paul says (in 2Cor. 13:5), “Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith.” The spiritual beauty of God’s truth is as awe-inspiring or attractive as the physical beauty of God’s world for one who has the Spirit/mind of Christ (1Cor. 2:12-16).

 

[JohnRH]

I wanted to delete the post but you cannot delete it with a new thread.

But I could edit it which I put I wanted to delete it.

So I could of erased it all and put I will not post what I was going to post or not put anything and it probably would be a hung thread.

I think I wanted to write my frustration down at the hypocrites and then delete it.

Sorry for saying numbskulls.

I do not want to come across as mean.

Hypocrisy is why many people do not come to God.

So it seems like for that fact alone people would not want to be hypocritical.

But it does not matter to once saved always saved people because if they were chosen in the beginning they are saved and if not they are not saved.

So their behavior has no impact on the outcome of a person's fate.

But if they are wrong and we have a choice then they are doing much damage because of their hypocrisy.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

God wants all people to be saved.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Luk 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation.

Predestination means God had the plan to give mankind salvation from the foundation of the world.

But this salvation is to whoever wants it for God wants all people to be saved.

Amen to the "God wants all people to be saved" passages you posted. But once you become saved for eternity, you'll always be saved. ...whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst John 4:14 (KJV)

 

[Fillan]

Hello Tablet. Don't let it worry you, the Lord will judge everyone in righteousness:


Matthew 25: 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

You can safely leave it in the Lord's hands. God Bless You

 

[homwardbound]

I decided I do not want to be in heaven.

If I have to be in heaven with all you numbskulls and hypocrites forget it.

What I am saying if once saved always saved is true and observing the hypocrisy that proceeds from these people because they love sin thinking they cannot fall then I do not want to be in heaven.

These people do not care about being Christlike but like to enjoy sin.

And I have witnessed it time and time again looking at their lifestyle as they enjoy sin loving worldliness thinking they are alright.

If it is true then forget being in heaven if these half breeds that do not care about the ways of God and are ashamed of Jesus' ways by their hypocrisy can be in heaven.

I decline to be in heaven with these people.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Of course these people will not be in heaven and cannot come to the truth.

And do not say they care about being Christlike for I have seen their lifestyle time after time that they are worldly but their numbskull selves think they are alright.

Loving them ole' fleshy pleasures more than God.

Loving money, worldly music, worldly shows and movies, loving spending money on entertaining their flesh.

Which I have seen abundantly with these people.

Thinking they are saved by faith alone.

But love is greater than faith and faith works by love.

But these numbskulls think they are alright despite their sins but love does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth.

But they say we are not perfect, we are only human, we cannot abstain from sin.

But the Bible says if we are led of the Spirit we can abstain from sin for we have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Which is why the Bible says turn away from these people that are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God for they give Christianity a bad name.

Which the people that believe once saved always saved love those fleshy pleasures like a big dog making excuses for their fleshy loving selves.

I wanted to delete this post because I do not want to come across as mean but it will not let me do it.



Causing people to look at Christianity as false and they are hypocrites.

Well thanks a lot for turning people away.

I agree, I see this has been in me, now, learning new in process from God for me and you and all those in deception still over there thought they got in them from religion(s) and just being here on earth.
"I" can do, since I am forgiven by God, attitude, is prevalent in todays society.
This is what the Corinthians did, took advantage of grace from God, that Paul wrote to let them know. The forgiveness given them was never meant to be taken for granted and use as an excuse to get away with harming others ever, yet still happening, unfortunately.
They got this letter read to them from Sothenes, the leader of the Corinthian Church then 1 Cor 1:1-3. Now in 2 Corinthians 7, it is revealed they got it, they repented (Once only in truth from God), the truth to not use this being 100% forgiven by God Father through Risen Son as you cannot be disciplined or punished. This is why evil continues and is not from God at all. We the people do bad all by ourselves.
Now, please y'all, everyone please read Corinthians as whole, not a verse here and there and make up your own doctrines please.
See this love and mercy from God Father of Son for you to not take for granted and use it, to spend it on your own pleasures, not caring for others, even though many say they do and do not. As you the poster see, thank you. Now turn to Father in trust, what to do or not do as you I see, see do. As this post of yours reveals to me anyways
Yes, get away from those that do evil and do not care or will even listen to you. Stand in trust to God, God will send other vessels, and either others will listen or not, even as did not in the First (Old) Testament
God continues in perplexity for me to fathom, yet continues in God's love for us all, amazing grace, once anyone is revealed this truth from God to them personally, then one can say once saved always saved, yet only by God, not self or anyone else, thanks
When one says I am saved, I got it, I see the I (Eye of self in the way of God's love and see to trust God to reveal truth in his love and mercy given them too, Seeing Romans 2:1-4
Which humbles me to not accuse, excuse or berate anyone over it, thank you Father and Son as Won (One)

 

[Webers.Home]

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● Gal 5:13a . . You, my brethren, were called to be free. But do not use your
liberty to indulge the base nature;

Christianity is sometimes criticized as a license to steal, so to speak.

Well; that's true to a certain extent because folks unified with Christ are on
an honor system rather than a legal system, viz: they have immunity from
any, and all, of the curses that Moses' covenant imposes on non compliance
per Lev 26:3-38, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut 28:1-69 because their
association with God is via a different covenant wherein are no curses for
disobedience.

Also: when people unify with Christ, the list of wrongs that God has been
accumulating against them gets demolished and from thence He does not
begin compiling a new list.

● John 5:24 . . I assure you: those who listen to my message, and believe in
God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their
sins, but they have already passed from death into life.

● 2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not
counting their trespasses against them

The Greek word translated "counting" means to take an inventory; i.e. an
indictment.

Folks unified with Christ have quite an advantage because when there are no
indictments against offenders, then there is nothing on record with which to
accuse them, i.e. it's as though they've never been anything but 100%
innocent. This may seem like cooking the books, but God has a way to do it
without obstructing justice.

So then; there's a bit of a moral hazard within Christianity. However, God
prefers that people unified with Christ not allow human nature to be the
dominant force in their lives. (cf. Rom 6:1-13 and Col 3:1-17)

NOTE: Human nature is a bit of an impediment for Christians in this life but
it won't be in the next because in their new environment folks unified with
Christ will be influenced by the divine nature spoken of by 2Pet 1:3-4.

"His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness
through our knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and goodness.
Through these He has given us His very great and precious promises, so that
through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the
corruption in the world caused by evil desires".
_

 

[Howdy]

I am convinced that a majority who say they are saved, a Christian don't even know what it means.
They accept the world's definition not the Bible's.

 

[Edify]

I wanted to delete this post because I do not want to come across as mean but it will not let me do it.

No you didn't. You wrote this in your first post, meaning you hadn't posted it yet.
Another thing I didn't understand..... Why all the good "likes" & other positive things put at the bottom when such dishonesty is posted? How can we be so blind?

 

[Suze]

I decided I do not want to be in heaven.

If I have to be in heaven with all you numbskulls and hypocrites forget it.

What I am saying if once saved always saved is true and observing the hypocrisy that proceeds from these people because they love sin thinking they cannot fall then I do not want to be in heaven.

These people do not care about being Christlike but like to enjoy sin.

And I have witnessed it time and time again looking at their lifestyle as they enjoy sin loving worldliness thinking they are alright.

If it is true then forget being in heaven if these half breeds that do not care about the ways of God and are ashamed of Jesus' ways by their hypocrisy can be in heaven.

I decline to be in heaven with these people.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Of course these people will not be in heaven and cannot come to the truth.

And do not say they care about being Christlike for I have seen their lifestyle time after time that they are worldly but their numbskull selves think they are alright.

Loving them ole' fleshy pleasures more than God.

Loving money, worldly music, worldly shows and movies, loving spending money on entertaining their flesh.

Which I have seen abundantly with these people.

Thinking they are saved by faith alone.

But love is greater than faith and faith works by love.

But these numbskulls think they are alright despite their sins but love does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth.

But they say we are not perfect, we are only human, we cannot abstain from sin.

But the Bible says if we are led of the Spirit we can abstain from sin for we have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Which is why the Bible says turn away from these people that are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God for they give Christianity a bad name.

Which the people that believe once saved always saved love those fleshy pleasures like a big dog making excuses for their fleshy loving selves.

I wanted to delete this post because I do not want to come across as mean but it will not let me do it.



Causing people to look at Christianity as false and they are hypocrites.

Well thanks a lot for turning people away.

Matthew chapter 19 verses 16-22 . Mark chapter 10 verses 17-22 .

 

[wattie]

The saying 'my salvation can't be lossed, so now I can do whatever I want'.. has a ton of problems.

First.. when someone believes, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. So when a believer tries to 'do whatever they want' after conversion, the Holy Spirit will convict them, to discontinue in wayward ways.

They CAN choose to go down the wrong path.. that is not impossible to choose to do.. but they WILL get discipline if they do.

Second.. why would you want to do 'whatever you want' with the Holy Spirit indwelling you? That is carnal, fleshly thinking that the Holy Spirit would convict you to change. Thinking like that.. would lead others to question what you believed in the first place.

Not that.. after believing.. you weren't saved... but what led you to get saved.. would be questioned.

Third.. your good behaviour.. isn't the test of being saved. The test of being saved is whether you believed on the Lord Jesus Christ according to John 3, John 5:24, John 6:40, Romans 10:9-10 etc.

The test isn't your works.. it's whether you believed.

Very faithful believers, at some point will not look like a believer when they struggle in their faith.. you could look at them at that time in their life.. at their works.. and won't see christian behaviour. That doesn't mean they weren't saved to begin with or lost salvation.

 

[Burn1986]

I decided I do not want to be in heaven.

If I have to be in heaven with all you numbskulls and hypocrites forget it.

What I am saying if once saved always saved is true and observing the hypocrisy that proceeds from these people because they love sin thinking they cannot fall then I do not want to be in heaven.

These people do not care about being Christlike but like to enjoy sin.

And I have witnessed it time and time again looking at their lifestyle as they enjoy sin loving worldliness thinking they are alright.

If it is true then forget being in heaven if these half breeds that do not care about the ways of God and are ashamed of Jesus' ways by their hypocrisy can be in heaven.

I decline to be in heaven with these people.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Of course these people will not be in heaven and cannot come to the truth.

And do not say they care about being Christlike for I have seen their lifestyle time after time that they are worldly but their numbskull selves think they are alright.

Loving them ole' fleshy pleasures more than God.

Loving money, worldly music, worldly shows and movies, loving spending money on entertaining their flesh.

Which I have seen abundantly with these people.

Thinking they are saved by faith alone.

But love is greater than faith and faith works by love.

But these numbskulls think they are alright despite their sins but love does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth.

But they say we are not perfect, we are only human, we cannot abstain from sin.

But the Bible says if we are led of the Spirit we can abstain from sin for we have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Which is why the Bible says turn away from these people that are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God for they give Christianity a bad name.

Which the people that believe once saved always saved love those fleshy pleasures like a big dog making excuses for their fleshy loving selves.

I wanted to delete this post because I do not want to come across as mean but it will not let me do it.



Causing people to look at Christianity as false and they are hypocrites.

Well thanks a lot for turning people away.

Sounds like you’ve developed a little bit of bitterness and a puffed up attitude. Within reason, we don’t care what you think of other people.

 

[JohnRH]

No you didn't. You wrote this in your first post, meaning you hadn't posted it yet.

I think there's a short time space (a minute?) after posting, where you can still edit your post without "edited" showing up in the post; but you still can't delete it.
Maybe someone else here knows better how that works.

 

[Hakawaka]

I decided I do not want to be in heaven.

If I have to be in heaven with all you numbskulls and hypocrites forget it.

What I am saying if once saved always saved is true and observing the hypocrisy that proceeds from these people because they love sin thinking they cannot fall then I do not want to be in heaven.

These people do not care about being Christlike but like to enjoy sin.

And I have witnessed it time and time again looking at their lifestyle as they enjoy sin loving worldliness thinking they are alright.

If it is true then forget being in heaven if these half breeds that do not care about the ways of God and are ashamed of Jesus' ways by their hypocrisy can be in heaven.

I decline to be in heaven with these people.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Of course these people will not be in heaven and cannot come to the truth.

And do not say they care about being Christlike for I have seen their lifestyle time after time that they are worldly but their numbskull selves think they are alright.

Loving them ole' fleshy pleasures more than God.

Loving money, worldly music, worldly shows and movies, loving spending money on entertaining their flesh.

Which I have seen abundantly with these people.

Thinking they are saved by faith alone.

But love is greater than faith and faith works by love.

But these numbskulls think they are alright despite their sins but love does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth.

But they say we are not perfect, we are only human, we cannot abstain from sin.

But the Bible says if we are led of the Spirit we can abstain from sin for we have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Which is why the Bible says turn away from these people that are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God for they give Christianity a bad name.

Which the people that believe once saved always saved love those fleshy pleasures like a big dog making excuses for their fleshy loving selves.

I wanted to delete this post because I do not want to come across as mean but it will not let me do it.



Causing people to look at Christianity as false and they are hypocrites.

Well thanks a lot for turning people away.

Luckily once saved always saved isn't true and these people you complain about will NOT be in heaven, most likely. Christianity has been dead for about a century now, ever since America got a hold of the Gospel and perverted it to its worldly version where everything worldly is allowed. These guys are watching superbowl in Church, no lie.

Don't base your opinion on God or His people on "Christianity", understand that its a huge bowl of apostasy no matter where you look.

Just stick with the Scriptures and the few people you know who are actually born again and walk in the light.