Israel.

[God-fearing]

Right I agree . Even until right now haven’t had a temple of control of the land since 70ad

they chose the curses and broke the covenant then it had to be fulfilled and a new one had to be given that’s the gospel Jesus never ever ever promised an earthly restoration of any nation including isreal he only foretold tbier destruction and desolation .

And then he gave a new covenant promising salvation from thier Cursed one but it’s new . A new promised land is part of the new covenant

Absolutely, but I know where you are going with this, Paul stated that now our bodies are the temple of God. Totally true.
But what happens if the Lord tarries ? This temple returns to dust also does it not. The temple served its purpose in guarding the truth which enabled us now to be present with God. For absent from the body is present with the Lord.
I know you have your views on the third temple being built. And yes the intention of sacrificing once again is its looked upon.
But does the scriptures show that this is carried out?. It's only our assumption. But it does say that anti-Christ sits there and declares he is God. Was this God's purpose for the temple. To single out the man of sin.
All the temples were built by the hand of man. We are made by the hand of man also. We look for a temple without the hand of man.
Which comes at the very end.

 

[God-fearing]

Palestine is in fact Israel. It is the name given by Rome as an insult, referring to the inhabitants of the land prior to Abraham. Rome was fed up (and rightly so) with Israel's rebellion. The destruction of the temple did not inhibit Israel's rebellion.

Rome took away all of Israel's self government. Finally, Rome effectively destroyed Israel as a functioning nation and renamed it Palestine. Palestine has never existed as an independent state.

This is not conjecture, it is history. God never changed the name to Palestine. God warned Israel that they would be scattered but also that He would bring them back. And so He has.

There is a lot that is not clear in the Book of Revelation. However, to dismiss everything we don't understand as metaphorical is unwise, if we want to know the truth. It's better to say, "I don't know" than to pretend to know what it literal and what is not.

My friend your defence is unwarranted my attempt was to show the relevance of Israel. Sorry but I will not be sending a Christmas card to you.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

there’s a new cofenant with better promises the old version one is broken they rejected thier messiah

No, God swore an oath against Himself, there were no conditions. That's why one partner making the covenant was put into a deep sleep. God walked through the halved animals Himself, thus He made a covenant with Himself. No one has mentioned or answered that in this whole thread. The Jews will recognize their Messiah when the anti-Christ betrays them. Then God will keep the promise He made to the Jews.

 

[Komentaja]

There have been many opportunities for modern Israel to be destroyed. So far, 8 million Israelis have stared down 450 million mostly hostile Muslims. I call that miraculous.

Israel will be judged once more during the great tribulation. For sure there will be terrible times for the whole earth, but Israel suffers the most. But God will intervene to prevent the final destruction of Israel by the forces of Antichrist. Israel is still at the centre of history. You don't have to like it. It's the way it is.

Quote from Wikipedia article of the six-day war:

"
James Reston, writing in The New York Times on 23 May 1967, noted, "In; discipline, training, morale, equipment and general competence his [Nasser's] army and the other Arab forces, without the direct assistance of the Soviet Union, are no match for the Israelis. ... Even with 50,000 troops and the best of his generals and air force in Yemen, he has not been able to work his way in that small and primitive country, and even his effort to help the Congo rebels was a flop."[69]

On the eve of the war, Israel believed it could win a war in 3–4 days. The United States estimated Israel would need 7–10 days to win, with British estimates supporting the U.S. view.[70][71]"

That has been visible even today. The only reason Hamas doesn't cause more damage is that they don't have the capabilities to do so. They are like wild animals, they breed fast and hunt in packs but alone and when confronted they are like whining dogs playing the victim. They have no discipline, no honor, no skills and as a people they are a curse on this earth. Look at what they are doing to Europe, to their own countries, to Israel.

Why do these animals exist? Because of one reason, impatience and lack of belief in God. Remember these people descend from Hagar, and had Sarah been more patient with Abraham and waited for God to fulfill His promise, there would be no curse of the Ishmaelites (from who descend even more enemies of Israel) on us today. Let this be a lesson to all of us that marching ahead of God's promises and not waiting for HIS timing can have very long lasting consequences.

Genesis 16:12
He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

 

[Komentaja]

There is nothing in Revelation referring to land called Israel.

There is no mention of a country called Israel, but to the land of Israel there is a mention. In the battle of Armageddon for example, it is a physical location in Judea

 

[Pilgrimshope]

No, God swore an oath against Himself, there were no conditions. That's why one partner making the covenant was put into a deep sleep. God walked through the halved animals Himself, thus He made a covenant with Himself. No one has mentioned or answered that in this whole thread. The Jews will recognize their Messiah when the anti-Christ betrays them. Then God will keep the promise He made to the Jews.

“No, God swore an oath against Himself, there were no conditions. “

thats the new covenant regarding Christ it happened right here

“And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, and said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: that in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; ( all nations not Israel alone ) because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:15-

That covenant has nothing to do with the one made with the children of Israel four hundred years after this it has to do with the New Testament

“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; ( not every descendant of Abraham ) but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. ( but just Christ) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:7-9, 16, 27, 29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Israel’s covenant was made through moses mediation four hundred thirty years after that promise . And eas based exactly on what god said this is not the same covenant promised to a Abraham’s seed and sworn with an oath

“See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; in that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it. But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them; I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it. I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30:15-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬



there are two covenants an old one regarding this earth and a new one through Christ regarding a new creation to come .

One was broken and had to be fulfilled as the curse the oath god made was about Jesus through the figure of Isaac . Called to Abraham a second time and said by myself I have sworn that all nations shall be blessed through thy seed ( Jesus ) see Galatians 3 isreel broke one covenant and another was made with them when Jesus came forth

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: ( it’s not the same covenant ) not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s really all I have been saying each covenant is according to the word given In it Israel’s was broken and fulfilled as the curse of desolation but he made a new one with them not according to the one from sinia based only on thier actions and choices and with far better promises

hard for some to see all people who believe in Jesus are aBrahmans children

 

[Pilgrimshope]

No, God swore an oath against Himself, there were no conditions. That's why one partner making the covenant was put into a deep sleep. God walked through the halved animals Himself, thus He made a covenant with Himself. No one has mentioned or answered that in this whole thread. The Jews will recognize their Messiah when the anti-Christ betrays them. Then God will keep the promise He made to the Jews.

do you acknowledge one covenant was broken and another new covenant was made with israel ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Absolutely, but I know where you are going with this, Paul stated that now our bodies are the temple of God. Totally true.
But what happens if the Lord tarries ? This temple returns to dust also does it not. The temple served its purpose in guarding the truth which enabled us now to be present with God. For absent from the body is present with the Lord.
I know you have your views on the third temple being built. And yes the intention of sacrificing once again is its looked upon.
But does the scriptures show that this is carried out?. It's only our assumption. But it does say that anti-Christ sits there and declares he is God. Was this God's purpose for the temple. To single out the man of sin.
All the temples were built by the hand of man. We are made by the hand of man also. We look for a temple without the hand of man.
Which comes at the very end.

“Absolutely, but I know where you are going with this, Paul stated that now our bodies are the temple of God. Totally true. “

um not at all where I was going if had been but yes that’s true it’s just not what we’re talking about. I was talking about this land and covenant

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.( the land on this earth and any temple one might build )

(v this land and covenant )
….Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”( Gods promises to come for believers in him )
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

One is going to be burned up the other will be forever

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

do you acknowledge one covenant was broken and another new covenant was made with israel ?

I believe that God is focused on the Gentiles being saved at this point in history. The Jews for the most part are still blinded to their Messiah. I believe that the Abrahamic Covenant still holds to this day. Not all covenants are though, but the land promised will be fulfilled.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Absolutely, but I know where you are going with this, Paul stated that now our bodies are the temple of God. Totally true.
But what happens if the Lord tarries ? This temple returns to dust also does it not. The temple served its purpose in guarding the truth which enabled us now to be present with God. For absent from the body is present with the Lord.
I know you have your views on the third temple being built. And yes the intention of sacrificing once again is its looked upon.
But does the scriptures show that this is carried out?. It's only our assumption. But it does say that anti-Christ sits there and declares he is God. Was this God's purpose for the temple. To single out the man of sin.
All the temples were built by the hand of man. We are made by the hand of man also. We look for a temple without the hand of man.
Which comes at the very end.

“I know you have your views on the third temple being built. And yes the intention of sacrificing once again is its looked upon.”

yeah mostly I just look for doctrine regarding any third earthly temple and als people for scripture nonone ever has any but they tell me what’s gonna happen . I have a pretty firm belief that Gods plans are written in scripture .

and I think some are having a hard time understanding there’s a covenant that was broken by the people . And then there’s a new covenant made with the same people but then everyone else was also included in the new covenant . Again the old covenant is broken so all the things it said would happen if they obeyed aren’t going to and everything he said would happen if they didn’t obey and they worshipped false gods has already or is still going to happen because they broke it

Israel’s blessings are all in the gospel and it doesn’t promise any restoration of this earth at all but promises a new heaven and new earth after this one os consumned by the curse of Israel’s broken law

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I believe that God is focused on the Gentiles being saved at this point in history. The Jews for the most part are still blinded to their Messiah. I believe that the Abrahamic Covenant still holds to this day. Not all covenants are though, but the land promised will be fulfilled.

So Israel’s land is going to be here then ?

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s Israel’s inheritance ? and it’s not going to be here ?

“Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:13‬ ‭

That isn’t where thier promises are going to be fulfilled ?

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[God-fearing]

“No, God swore an oath against Himself, there were no conditions. “

thats the new covenant regarding Christ it happened right here

“And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, and said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: that in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; ( all nations not Israel alone ) because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:15-

That covenant has nothing to do with the one made with the children of Israel four hundred years after this it has to do with the New Testament

“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; ( not every descendant of Abraham ) but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. ( but just Christ) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:7-9, 16, 27, 29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Israel’s covenant was made through moses mediation four hundred thirty years after that promise . And eas based exactly on what god said this is not the same covenant promised to a Abraham’s seed and sworn with an oath

“See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; in that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it. But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them; I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it. I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30:15-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬



there are two covenants an old one regarding this earth and a new one through Christ regarding a new creation to come .

One was broken and had to be fulfilled as the curse the oath god made was about Jesus through the figure of Isaac . Called to Abraham a second time and said by myself I have sworn that all nations shall be blessed through thy seed ( Jesus ) see Galatians 3 isreel broke one covenant and another was made with them when Jesus came forth

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: ( it’s not the same covenant ) not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s really all I have been saying each covenant is according to the word given In it Israel’s was broken and fulfilled as the curse of desolation but he made a new one with them not according to the one from sinia based only on thier actions and choices and with far better promises

hard for some to see all people who believe in Jesus are aBrahmans children

One must understand the atonement to understand what has happened. And why.
God orchestrated everything precisely perfectly and purposely, above what we can even comprehend in Christ Jesus. God has used the good and evil to accomplish his will towards man. For what ever reason man seems to be his greatest treasure.
And remember saints this is only the beginning, Paul said what he saw was unspeakable.
I've been meditating on this verse for days now and it brings so much joy and understanding for me.
Obviously John knows more than I have can ever know but he shows his trust and certainty is in Jesus but still no conclusions on what he will be.
1Jn 3:2 My loved ones, now we are children of God, and at present it is not clear what we are to be. We are certain that at his revelation we will be like him; for we will see him as he is.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I believe that God is focused on the Gentiles being saved at this point in history. The Jews for the most part are still blinded to their Messiah. I believe that the Abrahamic Covenant still holds to this day. Not all covenants are though, but the land promised will be fulfilled.

“The Jews for the most part are still blinded to their Messiah. “

do you know why ? Because they won’t let go of the covenant made at Sinai through Moses and accept the new covenant

“and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:13-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they refuse to look at the promises made to Abraham regarding his seed Jesus Christ that’s thier everlasting covenant based on his promise

about they trust Moses words instead and never even heard his witness of Jesus so they’ll always be blind trying to restore a broken covenant that’s a curse now while rejecting Jesus

I wouldn’t expect a great Jewish conversion to chrirtianity any time soon I would however expect many individual Jews and gentiles to believe the gospel and be saved and fill the lords earth to come

do you believe the curses god promised if they broke thier covenant ?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

There is no mention of a country called Israel, but to the land of Israel there is a mention. In the battle of Armageddon for example, it is a physical location in Judea

Meggido is in northern Israel, not in Judea. It was there when the land was called Palestine.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

One must understand the atonement to understand what has happened. And why.
God orchestrated everything precisely perfectly and purposely, above what we can even comprehend in Christ Jesus. God has used the good and evil to accomplish his will towards man. For what ever reason man seems to be his greatest treasure.
And remember saints this is only the beginning, Paul said what he saw was unspeakable.
I've been meditating on this verse for days now and it brings so much joy and understanding for me.
Obviously John knows more than I have can ever know but he shows his trust and certainty is in Jesus but still no conclusions on what he will be.
1Jn 3:2 My loved ones, now we are children of God, and at present it is not clear what we are to be. We are certain that at his revelation we will be like him; for we will see him as he is.

Yeah it’s hard to understand the atonement looking at the old broken covenant though have to look at the gospel to see gods atonement when it came

 

[Pilgrimshope]

It may be me since I dont know what I'm talking about.
But it seems that without Israel the book of revelation is null and void.
Or maybe it was a printers error and should read Palestine.

Revelation tells us that there’s going to be a new heaven and earth after this one’s burned up and then Israel’s restoration will happen

This from the old

“And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you. And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people.”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭26:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

will be fulfilled here

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

right after this happens

“And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. ….And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:11, 14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that lake of fire is here

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.( lake of fire where the ongodly are punished ) Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s gotta happen and everyone will know then ….the restoration happens here

“Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:13‬ ‭

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

everythong israel hewrd led them to this fulfillment where they will be eternally the kingdom of God on a new and perfect earth promosed for ages by the lord who created in seven days the world we all see now he’s going to remove it all and create a new place without sin and death to bring his promises to pass not this fallen broken world who rebelled against him with our dominion the new things Christ has all dominion for mankind and he will never fail like we did

 

[Gideon300]

Quote from Wikipedia article of the six-day war:

"
James Reston, writing in The New York Times on 23 May 1967, noted, "In; discipline, training, morale, equipment and general competence his [Nasser's] army and the other Arab forces, without the direct assistance of the Soviet Union, are no match for the Israelis. ... Even with 50,000 troops and the best of his generals and air force in Yemen, he has not been able to work his way in that small and primitive country, and even his effort to help the Congo rebels was a flop."[69]

On the eve of the war, Israel believed it could win a war in 3–4 days. The United States estimated Israel would need 7–10 days to win, with British estimates supporting the U.S. view.[70][71]"

That has been visible even today. The only reason Hamas doesn't cause more damage is that they don't have the capabilities to do so. They are like wild animals, they breed fast and hunt in packs but alone and when confronted they are like whining dogs playing the victim. They have no discipline, no honor, no skills and as a people they are a curse on this earth. Look at what they are doing to Europe, to their own countries, to Israel.

Why do these animals exist? Because of one reason, impatience and lack of belief in God. Remember these people descend from Hagar, and had Sarah been more patient with Abraham and waited for God to fulfill His promise, there would be no curse of the Ishmaelites (from who descend even more enemies of Israel) on us today. Let this be a lesson to all of us that marching ahead of God's promises and not waiting for HIS timing can have very long lasting consequences.

Genesis 16:12
He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

By 1973, the Egyptian army had learned a lot. Israel became complacent. Syria attacked from the north and Egypt from the south. Egypt's anti tank missiles were deadly. Israel came close to defeat.

Don't underestimate the Houthi. They are not a murderous rabble like Hamas. They have held off Saudi forces as well as the recognised government of Yemen. They have made the Red Sea a dangerous place for shipping and have overcome the efforts of foreign forces to prevent shipping attacks.

Iran is behind Hamas and Houthi. However, an even worse threat is the Muslim population of Europe and the UK. America is not far behind. I hope Americans take note of the disastrous state of the UK and ensure that Islam is not allowed to take over.

 

[Komentaja]

Iran is behind Hamas and Houthi. However, an even worse threat is the Muslim population of Europe and the UK. America is not far behind. I hope Americans take note of the disastrous state of the UK and ensure that Islam is not allowed to take over.

Yes sadly many are ignorant of what Islam teaches and are fooled by the taqqiya agenda.

 

[God-fearing]

Revelation tells us that there’s going to be a new heaven and earth after this one’s burned up and then Israel’s restoration will happen

This from the old

“And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you. And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people.”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭26:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

will be fulfilled here

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

right after this happens

“And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. ….And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:11, 14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that lake of fire is here

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.( lake of fire where the ongodly are punished ) Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s gotta happen and everyone will know then ….the restoration happens here

“Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:13‬ ‭

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

everythong israel hewrd led them to this fulfillment where they will be eternally the kingdom of God on a new and perfect earth promosed for ages by the lord who created in seven days the world we all see now he’s going to remove it all and create a new place without sin and death to bring his promises to pass not this fallen broken world who rebelled against him with our dominion the new things Christ has all dominion for mankind and he will never fail like we did

The only problem i have in this is i believe it happens in the 1000 yr. Reign. It talks about restoration which is a restoring of things.
A new heaven and earth replaces .
The promises of restoration in Isaiah and others suggest that it is a earthly per its description.
Isaiah 35:6-7
Then the lame will leap like a deer and the mute tongue will shout for joy. For waters will gush forth in the wilderness, and streams in the desert. / The parched ground will become a pool, the thirsty land springs of water. In the haunt where jackals once lay, there will be grass and reeds and papyrus.

Isaiah 51:3
For the LORD will comfort Zion and will look with compassion on all her ruins; He will make her wilderness like Eden and her desert like the garden of the LORD. Joy and gladness will be found in her, thanksgiving and melodious song

Jeremiah 31:22
How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.

 

[God-fearing]

The only problem i have in this is i believe it happens in the 1000 yr. Reign. It talks about restoration which is a restoring of things.
A new heaven and earth replaces .
The promises of restoration in Isaiah and others suggest that it is a earthly per its description.
Isaiah 35:6-7
Then the lame will leap like a deer and the mute tongue will shout for joy. For waters will gush forth in the wilderness, and streams in the desert. / The parched ground will become a pool, the thirsty land springs of water. In the haunt where jackals once lay, there will be grass and reeds and papyrus.

Isaiah 51:3
For the LORD will comfort Zion and will look with compassion on all her ruins; He will make her wilderness like Eden and her desert like the garden of the LORD. Joy and gladness will be found in her, thanksgiving and melodious song

Jeremiah 31:22
How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.

Now mind you this maybe a look at present day Israel but I tend to see it in the 1000 yr reign.

The lord did say he makes beauty from ashes......he restores the years the locust ate.