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Jesus came as the suffering servant, and He will return as the ruling King.

Right, but only because he is the son of David. Like I said there are interesting shadows in the story of Joseph pointing to Christ, but the idea of 2 messiahs called ben Joseph and ben David comes from unbelief. There is only one messiah.
 
Because Palestinians are native to the land of Palestine; it's their home. It's not any country's responsibility, nor is it in their interest, to take on the burden of foreign refugees

They are native to the land, highly localized to the Levant for centuries, I bet some have ancient Jewish blood as well.

And hen we have people who have changed their names.

Benzion Mileikowsky - Bibi
Golda Meir was born Golda Mabovitch. •
Shimon Peres was born Szymon Perski. •
Yitzhak Shamir was born Icchak Jeziernicky. •
Moshe Dayan was born Moshe Kitaigorodsky. •
Ariel Sharon was born Ariel Scheinerman. •
Ehud Barak was born Ehud Brog. •
Moshe Sharett was born Moshe Shertok. •
Shaul Mofaz, who was born in Iran as Shahram Mofazzazkar
 
It is how Jesus answered that matters.
If we are going to go to outside sources..

Returning to a Right Relationship with God:
Spiritual restoration
often follows a period of spiritual estrangement, whether due to personal failings, external circumstances, or a general decline in faith
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Before Jesus died on the cross and said "it is finished"He was referring to the restoration of man prior to the fall.Pilgrimshope posted plenty of scriptures that testify who true Israel is.Jesus is Israel.He is New Jerusalem, and he is in all those who have the Holy Spirit.

Colossians 1:16-20

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisibl
e, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
 
Before Jesus died on the cross and said "it is finished"He was referring to the restoration of man prior to the fall.Pilgrimshope posted plenty of scriptures that testify who true Israel is.Jesus is Israel.He is New Jerusalem, and he is in all those who have the Holy Spirit.

Colossians 1:16-20

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Amen and Amen!

Agree @Pilgrimshope has indeed worked very hard to bring forth the truth.

I find it troubling where we find ourselves today because of this false Scofield/Darby doctrine.
 
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I wonder why?
It's because they are evil even by Muslim standards. Jordan took some in after the 1967 war. Arafat founded the PLO, who immediately went on a murderous rampage. The PLO tried to overthrow the government of Jordan, which had made peace with Israel. Muslim nations don't need the internal strife that the PLO inflicts. They are not as stupid as the West.
 
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You are one sick puppy.

Meaning you have never taken the time to follow the money/resources trail, when you do you will understand geopolitics.

Seems to me you are the one who holds a certain "blood line" higher on the scale in direct contradiction to Christ Jesus.
 
“Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.” —Mt 21:43
 
Amen and Amen!

Agree @Pilgrimshope has indeed worked very hard to bring forth the truth.

I find it troubling where we find ourselves today because of this false Scofield/Darby doctrine.
Do you remember in the story of Abraham . God came to him and promised him that through his seed all people would be blessed . And then Sarai came and told Abraham “ well that’s great now take my handmaid and make a baby with her so that you’ll have an hier.

rather than waiting for God to bring to pass his promise his way they decided to make tbier own goer and fulfill Gods promise . God didn’t accept it instead he returned and promised that Abraham would have a son with his wife one year later and that would be his hier of the promise .

The son who was born of the Will of man Was cast out while the son of promise was the only one accepted as Abraham’s hier of the promises god had been making him

God made another covenant with and for ishmael because he also was Abraham’s offspring but not of faith

I think people sort of try to do what saria did and after the war they tried to make it happen among many other motives religion was one for the warlords after ww2 to re establish israel as they saw it should be rather than waiting for Gods plan which is far better than mans

He talks a lot about the new things to come throughout the Bible it’s going to be far better than this fallen world a lot of people have trouble with doing this part

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-4‬ ‭
 
As I read this thread my mind continually points me to one scripture which just plants the cross of Calvary in the center of it all.. Romans 11:32 Is there anyone else that sees the word all in that verse?
Paul concludes his own argument. All have sinned. All need a Savior. That was the point. Still is.
 
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As I read this thread my mind continually points me to one scripture which just plants the cross of Calvary in the center of it all.. Romans 11:32 Is there anyone else that sees the word all in that verse?
Paul concludes his own argument. All have sinned. All need a Savior. That was the point. Still is.

I'll finish saying what I started...No, God's not finished with Israel. The plan is the same for them as for the world.. salvation! Romans 11: 25-26

Am I a Zionist? Yes, but Hebrews 12: 22-29 defines what Zionists are.

Jesus is Lord, Lord of all.
 
New Testament holds out no expectation that ethnic Jews will return to the territory of the land of Israel as part of the fulfillment of the promises of God.

The gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable (Rom. 11:29)

“…Brethren and fathers, listen: The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham…and said to him, ‘Come to a land that I will show you’” (Acts 7:2–3).

“…at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers of the
covenants of promise…
(Eph. 2:12).

“When they had come together, they asked Him, saying, ‘Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?’” (Acts 1:6). Jesus' reply It is not for you to know the times or seasons…”

God led Abraham to a place to receive as an inheritance, and that Isaac and Jacob were heirs with him of the same promise (Heb 11:9).


Luke 13, Jesus said that one day the residents of Jerusalem will welcome him (v. 35), and in chapter 21 prophesies that Jerusalem will be trampled upon by gentiles until the times of the gentiles are completed.

Jesus also refers to the land in a verse that it almost universally mistranslated: Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the land (Matt 5:5). More and more scholars are recognizing that Jesus is quoting word-for-word Ps 37:11. Five times this psalm uses the phrase inherit the land, and each time the Hebrew word eretz refers unmistakably to the land of Israel, not the whole earth.
 
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