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I believe him but I know the 2 fold prophecy given by Joel and we only see a portion of it fulfilled and there's several key parts that haven't come to pass yet.
I don't see any part of it that can't be reasonablly considered fulfilled. The spirit was poured out, men prophesied and had visions, signs in the heavens (star of Bethlehem was one), the day was turned into darkness at the lord's crucifixion, many in Israel/Judea called on the name of the lord and were saved.

Do you see something else that hasn't been fulfilled?
 

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I don't see any part of it that can't be reasonablly considered fulfilled. The spirit was poured out, men prophesied and had visions, signs in the heavens (star of Bethlehem was one), the day was turned into darkness at the lord's crucifixion, many in Israel/Judea called on the name of the lord and were saved.

Do you see something else that hasn't been fulfilled?
Hardly any of it was fulfilled and most Scholars and Theologians make the same claim.
 
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Shared DNA Markers are able to trace the bloodline back to Abraham, which we know is the great great great Grandson of Noah. Then from Noah we know that goes back to Seth and ultimately to Adam.
They don't have Abraham's DNA so how can they say there's a match. They can't; it's a hoax.
 
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You ask why, even with the Bible in hand, I still make wrong decisions. The answer is The Bible does not make perfect; it is a guide, a light for our path. But I remain a fallible human being, prone to error and self-will. Knowing what is right and doing what is right are two different things. No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good. The struggle is not the Bible’s failure, but a reflection of my own condition.

As for why it is so important to have the Bible and read and listen to it, I would say this: The Bible is not merely a book of rules or advice, but the record of God’s dealings with humanity. the story that makes sense of all other stories. As Christian it is the light by which we see everything else. The Scriptures do not close the mind; they open it to the presence and wonder of God and offer enduring wisdom for life’s questions. It bring us to Christ Himself. The Bible shapes our understanding, forms our character, and equips us for every good work. I return to it daily, not because I am flawless, but because I am in need of guidance, forgiveness, and the hope it continually offers.
I will take this from your own bible
and reply it back to you
in response to this you have said to me.

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which
is in heaven is perfect.

Note
This is a commandment of Christ
to the children of God.
 

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Haidabo ....ya need to go.
You know nothing of what your saying. You don't believe the bible. You don't listen to what your told. You post false twisted thoughts. And you have criticized every person in one form or another.
Which is it .....are you off your meds?
Lonely and need attention?
Sowing discord with your own thoughts being superior over the word of God you have become foolish.
I've reported you......now up to the monitor

Done with your foolishness.
 

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That's your unbelief speaking, and most of today's scholars and theologians are believers in name only.
What Joel said like God's Spirit poured out on all flesh is more than 120 people in a room. That is just one of several unfulfilled portions of the Prophecy.
 
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Haidabo ....ya need to go.
You know nothing of what your saying. You don't believe the bible. You don't listen to what your told. You post false twisted thoughts. And you have criticized every person in one form or another.
Which is it .....are you off your meds?
Lonely and need attention?
Sowing discord with your own thoughts being superior over the word of God you have become foolish.
I've reported you......now up to the monitor

Done with your foolishness.
I hold nothing against you.
I have profited greatly
in the living God
from our conversations.
In fact my God used you
to correct me.

Now how outstanding is that?
 
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What Joel said like God's Spirit poured out on all flesh is more than 120 people in a room. That is just one of several unfulfilled portions of the Prophecy.
It was poured out on mankind from the temple at Pentecost. That was Ezekiel's prophesied river of life flowing out of the temple to heal the land. 120 men weren't in a room, they were at the temple; that's how everyone saw what was happening. Peter told the men of Israel and Judah to repent, believe and be baptized and they would receive the gift of the holy spirit. They couldn't receive the holy spirit if it hadn't been poured out. And 3000 of them did believe and called on the name of the lord and were saved. An unbelieving heart can't see these things.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14
 
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Abraham's DNA exists in every Jew and in every Jew there's markers that are the exact same.
A matter of faith, not science. Again, if they don't have Abraham's DNA there's no way they can truthfully say there's a match. You've been scammed.
 
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Jews have been blinded for a time. You have no such excuse. Why are you here discussing a Bible when you don't believe it?
You are correct.
I never have an excuse before the Lord.
He holds me to the highest order.
I am His son.
 
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And to tell you the truth
your obedience or your lack of it
is the verification
of your faith in God.
 
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Your faith in God
is verified
by your obedience and disobedience.

Not your belief in the bible.
 

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Would that not also apply to every Gentile
who is a decedent of Esau?
The entire middle east are one big family. But the genetic Markers would be only Jewish and Muslim.
 

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It was poured out on mankind from the temple at Pentecost. That was Ezekiel's prophesied river of life flowing out of the temple to heal the land. 120 men weren't in a room, they were at the temple; that's how everyone saw what was happening. Peter told the men of Israel and Judah to repent, believe and be baptized and they would receive the gift of the holy spirit. They couldn't receive the holy spirit if it hadn't been poured out. And 3000 of them did believe and called on the name of the lord and were saved. An unbelieving heart can't see these things.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14
Ezekiel and that Prophecy is being fulfilled today. They have discovered fish in the dead sea which once was 100% salt. But the specific prophecy is for all flesh and men and women would prophesy which hasn't happened according to the specific Hebrew wording used by Joel.

There's 22 Letters to the Hebrew Alphabet and 22 Numerical Values to the Number system. Each Hebrew word also has a Numeric Value. And what happened so far doesn't match any of the values for fulfillment.