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They are still God's chosen people.
Jesus stated
many are called but few are chosen.

They are called by God.
But so are the Gentiles.
The chosen out of them
are a mix of
Both Jew and Gentile.
 
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I worship one Jew, He was a rabbi, you may have heard of Him. Jesus.
Matthew
Chapter 12

46 While he yet talked to the people,
behold, his mother and his brethren stood without,
desiring to speak with him.

47 Then one said unto him, Behold,
thy mother and thy brethren stand without,
desiring to speak with thee.

48 But he answered and said unto him that told him,
Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples,
and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven,
the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Jesus was both Gentile and Jew.
 
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Speaking of Israel the word of God says:

for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable (Romans 11:29)

Irrevocable= not able to be changed, reversed, or recovered; final:

:)
Give us an example?
 
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I'll say it again, does Jesus have borders? Actual land was promised to the Jews, God will keep His promises.
The land you speak of was promised to Abraham and his seed.
Not just solely to the seed of Jacob.
 
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25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved.
Many nations will be saved.
Not just Israel.
 
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You Christians need to see this video.
It will prove that you have been
and are being played
by the Messianic Jews and Israel.
This is the reason you will never
see a Jew or a Jew who says they believe
in Jesus in any of your churches.
This is why the Messianic Jews
will never be in any of your churches.
What is sad is they have
brainwashed and indoctrinated
gentile Christians into not
only believing they are above us all
but even working for them politically.
This exact same thing went on
during the days of the Apostles.


A video is worth a 1000 words.
 

PennEd

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Not true.
Jesus was not a physical son of David.
Getting pretty close to damnable heresy here.

Better re-read Jesus' genealogy in Matthew and Luke.

BECAUSE, he is King David's, and Abraham's, and Noah's and Adam's descendant, He is able to pay the sin debt for all humanity.

You don't believe Jesus is fully human?
 
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Getting pretty close to damnable heresy here.

Better re-read Jesus' genealogy in Matthew and Luke.

BECAUSE, he is King David's, and Abraham's, and Noah's and Adam's descendant, He is able to pay the sin debt for all humanity.

You don't believe Jesus is fully human?
Let's debate it.
I will defeat any argument you put up.
Because I am right and you are wrong.
 
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You Christians need to see this video.
It will prove that you have been
and are being played
by the Messianic Jews and Israel.
This is the reason you will never
see a Jew or a Jew who says they believe
in Jesus in any of your churches.
This is why the Messianic Jews
will never be in any of your churches.
What is sad is they have
brainwashed and indoctrinated
gentile Christians into not
only believing they are above us all
but even working for them politically.
This exact same thing went on
during the days of the Apostles.


A video is worth a 1000 words.
In this video
The woman who is a Jew
born and living in Israel
states that
all the Jews who believe Jesus
is their Messiah
are not Christians.
She said they
are not part of any
of the Christians.

She made it clear
that they are of nothing to do with
Gentile Christians.
 

PennEd

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Let's debate it.
I will defeat any argument you put up.
Because I am right and you are wrong.
Not sure what exactly you are debating.


Is Jesus Christ fully human and fully God?


You can start with yes or no and go from there
 
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Not sure what exactly you are debating.


Is Jesus Christ fully human and fully God?


You can start with yes or no and go from there
Jesus Christ is the WORD made flesh.
God in the body of a man a human being.
 
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Not sure what exactly you are debating.


Is Jesus Christ fully human and fully God?


You can start with yes or no and go from there
Now go ask the Jews and the Jews who believe Jesus is their Messiah that question.
 

PennEd

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Now go ask the Jews and the Jews who believe Jesus is their Messiah that question.
Why would I ask them? Most of them don’t believe Jesus is their Messiah.
 
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A human being descended from Adam down to King David, down to Himself?

Same bloodline?
That is not what Jesus stated about it.
How come you do not believe what Jesus said about it.
And I know you know it is written in your bible.
 
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Why would I ask them? Most of them don’t believe Jesus is their Messiah.
Because your only motive is to push the Jewish propaganda.
I suspect you follow some TV Messianic Rabbi.