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Gideon300 said:
The conflict goes back to Ishmael, Jacob and Esau. Esau allied himself to Ishmael, who was the child of the slave, not the heir of the promise. So this war is about 3,800 years old. It's a bit more than a squabble. Satan seeks to establish a kingdom that will destroy both Israel and the church. At one time, Britain was a leading light in Christianity. People like the Wesley brothers, Whitfield, Spurgeon, Hudson Taylor and CS Lewis were prominent. Now Mohamed is the most common boys name for newborns and has been for some time.

Until Christians wake up and get stuck into spiritual warfare, nothing will change except for the worse. There is a flicker of light in the UK, but the government there seems determined to turn the UK into a Muslim republic.
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Thank you for adding on to my summary. I appreciate it very much.😀
 
Here's my challenge
To all of you Christians
Especially to them
Who believe the Christians
Are giving the Jews a bad time
And throwing them under the bus.

Go to any Christian Church
That's not a Messianic Jewish Christian Church. And find just one Jew
Are Jewish convert attending
Any Christian Church
Other than a Messianic Jewish Christian Church.

You will not find one
Now why is that?

Now go to a Messianic
Jewish Christian Church

And observe what they do
And ask them if they regard the talmud
As a holy word from God.

Now don't just go to one service
And the one Messianic Christian Church
Go to several different

And then come back here
And let us discuss it

You will agree with me
 
Haidabo said:
I think whatever God does is wonderful.
I even love the wrath of God.
I love everything about the living God

Did you know
That he even suffocated
By drowning them in the water
Every man woman and child
Except for eight people.

So I think God killing 6 million Jews as punishment for them executing his only begotten Son.

They got off light.
To tell you the truth
We all get off light.

There's no excuse or anyone.
Not even the Jews.
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You are so wrong in so many ways
 
In fact I'm going to tell you
what they do at every one of
those Messianic churches everyone
they do this at everyone every service.

This is just one thing they do among many

They will get a huge scroll out
To which is the Torah

And two people will pick
it up one on each side
Or if it's a small scroll it'll just be one person

Then they'll play this Jewish music
And they'll all start jumping around and dancing

And carrying the scroll around
and everybody will touch it
And they'll be worshiping it.

I've seen it with my own two eyes
Many many times

They will be worshiping the Torah.
 
And they will not have pastors.

They have rabbis

Let us look in the Bible
What Jesus specifically said
About calling anyone except him
The title rabbi

Matthew 23:8

Be not called rabbi for one is your master even Christ and all you are brethren.

Right there they are disobeying Christ.
In fact
Out of all the Messianic
churches I attended

It was never about Jesus
It was always about
The Torah and the Jewish traditions.

Now don't take my word for it
Get off your couch

And go see for your own self.
 
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You Christians
Are being played

I saw this coming
As far back in 1993.
When the Christian churches
Especially the TV Christians
Started becoming infiltrated
By the Jews and the gentiles
They persuaded by money
giving them gifts or favors
Started bringing in
The Jewish religion.
Slowly slowly slowly
Over a period of time
Now look what you got?

I remember the first TV
Christian ministry the fall
To this malarkey

Was God's learning channel
In Midland Odessa Texas

Overnight
They went from preaching Jesus
Just preaching the Jews the chosen
people of God.

People like Joe goode
And countless others
Brought in the Jewish indoctrination.

And then all of them were
given tours over to Israel.

Well for the most part
They succeeded.

Bravo
Bravo

I think it's wonderful.

I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
Israelis are trying to drive Christians off their land in the last all-Christian town in the West Bank. It was where Jesus lived with his disciples before going to Jerusalem for the last time. I wonder what God will say to Christians who support this kind of thing? Depart from me you workers of iniquity?

Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews; but went thence unto a country near to the wilderness, into a town called Ephraim, and there continued with his disciples. John 11:54​
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https://revolver.news/2025/07/pries...tally-attacking-christians-in-jesus-backyard/
 
NeutralZone said:
Nowhere in 2 Corinthians 5:17-20 does it say everyone is forgiven. Those verses simply say humanity is given the opportunity to become reconciled with Almighty God.
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Gideon300 said:
So you reject Paul's dissertation in Romans 9,19 and 11? I do not. It took miracles for Israel to be restored to a nation, miracles for Israel to survive the war that followed independence, and miracles to survive and prosper ever since.

Jews paid an horrific price for their rebellion and for rejecting Jesus. 6 million suffered under Nazi Germany. Many European nations persecuted Jews and some still do. Jews have been driven out of every Arab nation, including places they'd lived since the fall of Jerusalem. God promised to restore Israel and that is exactly what has happened.
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Gideon300:

Please quote the scripture, along with the chapter number and the verse number. I'm not sure what you are referring to when you list the scriptures as you are doing above, because you are not differentiating the chapter from the verses by putting a colon between the chapter number and the verse number(s)

Notice above how I differentiated the chapter from the verses. 2 Corinthians chapter 5 is separated from its verses with a colon.
 
For the ancient nations of Judah, Moab, Ammon, Samaria, Egypt etc. to exist today there must be a people with ties to that time and place. This is the house of cards that much of end times theology is based on.
 
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Leastofall said:
You are so wrong in so many ways
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Haidabo said:
I think whatever God does is wonderful.
I even love the wrath of God.
I love everything about the living God

Did you know
That he even suffocated
By drowning them in the water
Every man woman and child
Except for eight people.

So I think God killing 6 million Jews as punishment for them executing his only begotten Son.

They got off light.
To tell you the truth
We all get off light.

There's no excuse or anyone.
Not even the Jews.
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Wow he drowned them....there were jews back in Noah's day....all of them...wow thank you for sharing.🤔🫣
 
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Gideon300 said:
Israel is absolutely God's nation and people, according to the scriptures. Yes, most are still rebellious and still deny Jesus. However, there is revival happening in Israel as I write this. There are a multitude of Jews who do accept Jesus as Messiah. We may well be seeing what Paul foretold in Romans 11. So I reject your claim that modern Jews reject Jesus as the Messiah.
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NeutralZone said:
Not anymore, Gideon300. After they rejected Jesus as the Messiah and prodded the Roman government to execute him, that was the final nail in their coffin in terms of their being considered God's chosen people. Scripture confirms that.
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homwardbound said:
Read Romans 9, this grace given to the Gentiles without Law or tradition to do, is to make the first chosen jealous as I see what happened in Acts, when Peter went to the house of the gentiles, Cornelius's house. and entered that Gentile house illegally, and said so, yet by God was told to enter and trust Father to preach to them, when entered. Then God spoke to them through Peter's flesh. Peter did not speak truth, God did through Peter and they were saved without any rituals, water Baptism or anything. Peter the next Chapter of Acts, I think was 10 or 11, went to his fellow people, the other disciples and said to them, what he saw happen.
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NeutralZone said:
I will when you provide the exact verse(s) at Romans chapter 9 that you want to direct my attention to.
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homwardbound said:
Best to read the whole, not cherry pick and remain dead using verses over verses and be out of context, people trying to convince people they are right and you are wrong, uno thank you.
Please in reading any verse used, please read at least 25 verses before and after the verse to get the truth, and take all to Father in prayer to know truth over error, even if it takes time to hear and understand, which it does, once Father seals anyone to see the truth, will see Eph 1:1-13

Authorized (King James) Version

1 Cor 13:1-3

13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
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homwardbound:

I asked for the verse(s) at Romans 9, which, according to you, provide proof that, to quote you: "this grace given to the Gentiles without Law or tradition to do, is to make the first chosen jealous...." Instead of directing me to the verses at Romans chapter 9, you instead went to 1 Corinthians 13:1-3, which says absolutely nothing to support your claims that the Abrahamic God (Jehovah) was simply trying to make the Jews jealous and that, to this day, the Jews are still God's chosen people.
 
You do not need any of this ritual
to be blessed. This is nonsense.
Do you actually think Jesus did this
when He preached or ministered to the crowds?
The only way to God is through Jesus Christ.
Not any Jewish ritual. And that is another
useless ritual
the Jewish prayer shawl.
I remember when Christians had to have one
thinking that it would somehow give
legitimacy with God to their prayers.
I wonder how many of them ended packed
away on some top shelf in the storage closet?

 
If you want to be blessed of God
then obey Him.

No song or dance
or chanting is going to
do anything for you but
make you look stupid
to them in heaven.

God understands English.
Stop making a fool of yourself before the Lord.
 
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