What are you mad at God over

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God does not preach to us from a high place. With love, compassion, and understanding, God comes to us where we are at. He walks alongside us to help us carry our burden, so we're not exhausted and crushed under its weight. That is how we should be towards one another. Jesus did not see himself as separate from us. He saw us all as parts and members of one body. I do not believe that God makes mistakes. I believe that he has a plan and he's intentional with everything he does. Every person who's alive on this earth today, God has chosen and called by name. They are made in gods image and deserve love and respect. I believe that if we have ill will towards someone, or hate towards someone, or unforgiveness towards someone, then in a way we question god. It's no mistake we are hear. To love our enemies and bless those who curse us honors god. We should love what god loves and hate what god hates. This honors god.
 
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As a somewhat humorous (in attempt, anyway, if not in result..my attempts at humor normally bomb on this site) aside, has anybody noticed my relatively new avatar? It is a movie screen. and some of the inspiration for it came from my involvement in this thread. What do I mean by this? Well, seeing how so many people in this world love to project either their own sins, or what somebody else has done to them, unto others, I thought that I would make it a bit easier by setting up a movie screen for such projections.

Personally, I really don't care about such projections in the sense that I am truly not offended by any of them. Instead, my concern is for those, like the OP, who create their own strife, and then seek to blame it on others. That is as slippery a slope as being unjustifiably angry or mad at God is. In my opinion, anyway. If others here or elsewhere disagree, then fine. It is certainly their prerogative to do so. At the same time, however, for someone to start a thread with an open-ended question, only to then seek to run everybody whose answers don't match what they want to hear out of town, is extremely immature and improper in my eyes, and I believe in God's eyes as well. Again, everybody here is free to disagree. My opinion is simply that. My opinion. If it aligns with the word of God, then embrace it. If it does not, then discard it. I am merely a man. I am not God.
 
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We should love what god loves and hate what god hates.
True.

Do you believe that God loves it when someone tells somebody else whose only desire is to help them to "F off?"

I don't.

And that is only a tiny fragment of how the OP has interacted with one member here. His interactions with others here have been no better. Should we, as Christians, just turn a blind eye to it, or should we, as Christians, if we truly love such an one, try to help such an individual to see the error of their ways?

As I recently said on another thread here, true biblical love manifests in different ways at different times, and one of those ways is by correction or chastening. If anybody here has not been loving, then it is the OP.
 
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We should love what god loves, and hate what god hates.
And then there is this admonition from 2nd Timothy-
3 But know this, that in the last days [a]perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, [b]unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power, from such turn away.
 
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True.

Do you believe that God loves it when someone tells somebody else whose only desire is to help them to "F off?"

I don't.

And that is only a tiny fragment of how the OP has interacted with one member here. His interactions with others here have been no better. Should we, as Christians, just turn a blind eye to it, or should we, as Christians, if we truly love such an one, try to help such an individual to see the error of their ways?

As I recently said on another thread here, true biblical love manifests in different ways at different times, and one of those ways is by correction or chastening. If anybody here has not been loving, then it is the OP.

Jesus loved Judas, and also recognized he had a devil.
 
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Jesus loved Judas, and also recognized he had a devil.
If I can be totally honest, do you know what some of the judgments here, as in on this entire site, and not just limited to this thread, remind me of? They fearfully remind me of this.

Pro 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

In other words, I pretty regularly witness the terrible behavior of the wicked being justified while the just actions of the righteous are simultaneously being condemned. Those who do either are an abomination to the LORD. A lot of people here, as in on this site, need to just shut up if for nobody else's good but their own.
 
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Please tell us, if you would be so kind, exactly who came "waltzing in" here with the types of announcements that you described/alleged? I know, of a certainty, that it wasn't me, and, from what I have read in this thread, it wasn't anybody else, either.

Like it or not, the OP has behaved himself like a petulant and immature hypocrite on this thread. In other words, from the get-go, he has not only been unreasonably and childishly ill-tempered towards other members here, but then, as his crowning achievement, he had the audacity to portray himself as the victim here instead of as the great offender that he truly is.

I cannot speak on the behalf of the other members here that he has mistreated, but I will give a very quick, and far from exhaustive, recap of my initial dealings with this poster.

For starters, he asked the open-ended question "What are you mad at God for?," and I answered thusly.
As any objective person can easily see, I did not "waltz in" here with an announcement of how I never even WANTED to be mad at God, nor did I utter the standard happity-clappity "Smile, you have no reason to be angry!" platitude that you mentioned, nor did I utter anything even remotely related to what you called modern churchianity's "fake it until we make it" suggestion. Instead, I honestly told him, right off the bat, that my life has been anything but easy, but rather very hard instead, and that God was not to blame for any of it. I then placed the blame where it truly belonged, and part of that blame was upon myself.

His response?
Tell us, what word or words do you suppose he intended those dashes to represent? I will tell you what he meant. He told me to move the F*CK along. There was nothing unreasonably ill-tempered (petulant) or childish (immature) in that response, right?

At the same time that he posted that (just check the timestamps), I was posting this.
In other words, I was sincerely and politely seeking to gain some insight into his situation so that I might possibly help him.

His response?
He answered my question with a question. Personally, I would normally be okay with that because, in fairness to him, he does not know either me or my intentions, so I believe that, at that time, it was a fair question for him to ask. However, as our dialogue (more of a monologue where he spewed venom at others) continued, I asked him, more than once, and after explaining my motivations for asking, what exactly he has been praying for, and, of course, he never answered me.

Please tell us how anyone could truly offer him insight in relation to his problem, as you rightly suggested that we should, when he won't even tell anybody exactly what the problem is?

Anyhow, when I saw his response where he basically told me to F*CK OFF, I rightly said the following.
His response?You know, there was only one member here who agreed with his ridiculous response, and that one member was YOU. Please tell us why he was justified in telling somebody who was only trying to help him that I should go find another super happy pre-destination thread or something? For starters, he is totally ignorant of my beliefs surrounding predestination (and I have publicly voiced those beliefs on this forum). On top of that, as usual, he behaved himself like a petulant child.

Why would you agree with him?

You are not obligated to answer, but if you are going to pass around your judgments on others here, then please give an account of your own actions.

Thank you.

P.S.

Please do not wrongly think that I am being passively aggressive in this post. Tone can easily be read into an online post where it was never intended. I genuinely would like to know the answers to the questions that I asked here. Did I ask them in a straightforward manner? Yes, I did, but not in an intended "aggressive" manner. I am just pretty direct. I hope that is okay.
HI Keeping, hope you are doing well and you foot is recovering!

I'm kinda mystified by your post. I didn't take issue with any of your advice, I thought you were trying to help and as far as I remember the only time I quoted you was to agree with you. I also appreciated that you said you were willing to cut the OP some slack because there was a chance he was sincere. He is, at best, an extremely immature Christian and I appreciated those who recognized that he would need more patience because of it. I work in youth ministry, and God seems to especially send me the angry ones. Sure, they can be frustrating but when God breaks through to them the results are amazing!

Anyways, if you had bothered to quote my entire post (which wasn't even directed at you, I was talking to @shittim because he seemed interested in understanding the situation better), you would have seen this at the end:

Disclaimer: This post was not directed at anyone in particular. It's just years of pent-up frustration, most of which has nothing to do with anyone on CC. @Burn1986 definitely has some issues but they're not too much for Jesus 😎.
I wasn't lying when I said that. It truly was not intended to shame you or any other well-intentioned poster in this thread. I was merely trying to shed some light on what would possibly be helpful to the OP. I am one of very few who posted in this thread admitting to having struggled with this particular sin. Perhaps that led me to thinking that what I had to say might be helpful. Apparently it was not. Perhaps I am still upset by some of the ways I was treated in real life and am projecting that in the thread.

Anyway.....My desire is to be helpful. Therefore, as I stated before, I am removing myself from this thread to avoid further contention.

All the best!
 
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I believe that everyone at times is confused, angry and wanting an explanation from God. And a lot of times we begin by going to those who are in our environment. In today's age. It's going online to a Christian chat site. But during job's time it was his neighbors. His friends, those who were nearby. What we see through the example of Job is that eventually God does break through and he does humble Job and he does bring correction to his life and I believe that's what God is still doing today. I believe it's a bit disingenuine and unhonest to say that I've never been angry with God and questioned him. If you never have then you're much better than I am. As for myself I have been drunk plenty of times, more than I can count. Therefore snacker's mom congratulations.You're better than me as well. I also see your point that it was immature to act in this way. I don't think it's really appropriate to expect a sinner to be a saint , especially one that is lost. Not even the saints belived they were saints. Really I think the bigger person here would ask themselves why this bothered them, to learn from it, and seek to make things right with god and the one that they have caused an offense too.
Ok I said I would leave the thread, but had to hang around long enough to thank you for your compassion and understanding towards the OP. He stated in another thread that one of the things he is petitioning the Lord for is the salvation of his daughter. If that is true then I at least appreciate his passion and concern, even if it is misguided and needs to be overcome through entrusting his daughter to the Lord.

And I am most definitely NOT better than you for my lack of drinking, I never even wanted to and my despair came out in other ways that were no more charming than excessive drinking would have been. I salute you overcoming through His help! :cool:
 

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HI Keeping, hope you are doing well and you foot is recovering!

I'm kinda mystified by your post. I didn't take issue with any of your advice, I thought you were trying to help and as far as I remember the only time I quoted you was to agree with you. I also appreciated that you said you were willing to cut the OP some slack because there was a chance he was sincere. He is, at best, an extremely immature Christian and I appreciated those who recognized that he would need more patience because of it. I work in youth ministry, and God seems to especially send me the angry ones. Sure, they can be frustrating but when God breaks through to them the results are amazing!

Anyways, if you had bothered to quote my entire post (which wasn't even directed at you, I was talking to @shittim because he seemed interested in understanding the situation better), you would have seen this at the end:



I wasn't lying when I said that. It truly was not intended to shame you or any other well-intentioned poster in this thread. I was merely trying to shed some light on what would possibly be helpful to the OP. I am one of very few who posted in this thread admitting to having struggled with this particular sin. Perhaps that led me to thinking that what I had to say might be helpful. Apparently it was not. Perhaps I am still upset by some of the ways I was treated in real life and am projecting that in the thread.

Anyway.....My desire is to be helpful. Therefore, as I stated before, I am removing myself from this thread to avoid further contention.

All the best!
Psst! keepingthingsreal has me on ignore so he cannot see what I said. So to him your posts just came out of the blue.

Some people just can't handle it when things get real, so they put people on ignore to avoid having to deal with it... :p

You could explain this to keeping, but it wouldn't do any good. I wouldn't bother.
 
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Anyways, if you had bothered to quote my entire post (which wasn't even directed at you, I was talking to @shittim because he seemed interested in understanding the situation better), you would have seen this at the end:
Before you go...

First of all, knowing a little bit about you, I would never even consider that you were lying when you said what you said, so if I somehow gave you that impression, then I truly am sorry.

Also, although I did not quote your post in its entirety, I did read the entirety of it, and I did also see your disclaimer at the end. Additionally, I did not believe that your comments were aimed directly at me. Instead, it seemed to me, and please correct me if I am wrong, that while you were obviously sharing some of your own past experiences, it also seemed as if you were making a correlation between those past experiences and what had transpired on this thread.

Am I wrong in that assessment?

If I am, then I will gladly, quickly, humbly, sincerely, and publicly apologize for misreading you.

On the other hand, if I am correct in that assessment, then I was (and still am) sincerely wondering who you were correlating your own past experiences with here on this thread.

I hope that makes sense.

Again, if i misread you, then I will apologize immediately.

Thank you.
 

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Please tell us, if you would be so kind, exactly who came "waltzing in" here with the types of announcements that you described/alleged? I know, of a certainty, that it wasn't me, and, from what I have read in this thread, it wasn't anybody else, either.

Like it or not, the OP has behaved himself like a petulant and immature hypocrite on this thread. In other words, from the get-go, he has not only been unreasonably and childishly ill-tempered towards other members here, but then, as his crowning achievement, he had the audacity to portray himself as the victim here instead of as the great offender that he truly is.

I cannot speak on the behalf of the other members here that he has mistreated, but I will give a very quick, and far from exhaustive, recap of my initial dealings with this poster.

For starters, he asked the open-ended question "What are you mad at God for?," and I answered thusly.
As any objective person can easily see, I did not "waltz in" here with an announcement of how I never even WANTED to be mad at God, nor did I utter the standard happity-clappity "Smile, you have no reason to be angry!" platitude that you mentioned, nor did I utter anything even remotely related to what you called modern churchianity's "fake it until we make it" suggestion. Instead, I honestly told him, right off the bat, that my life has been anything but easy, but rather very hard instead, and that God was not to blame for any of it. I then placed the blame where it truly belonged, and part of that blame was upon myself.

His response?
Tell us, what word or words do you suppose he intended those dashes to represent? I will tell you what he meant. He told me to move the F*CK along. There was nothing unreasonably ill-tempered (petulant) or childish (immature) in that response, right?

At the same time that he posted that (just check the timestamps), I was posting this.
In other words, I was sincerely and politely seeking to gain some insight into his situation so that I might possibly help him.

His response?
He answered my question with a question. Personally, I would normally be okay with that because, in fairness to him, he does not know either me or my intentions, so I believe that, at that time, it was a fair question for him to ask. However, as our dialogue (more of a monologue where he spewed venom at others) continued, I asked him, more than once, and after explaining my motivations for asking, what exactly he has been praying for, and, of course, he never answered me.

Please tell us how anyone could truly offer him insight in relation to his problem, as you rightly suggested that we should, when he won't even tell anybody exactly what the problem is?

Anyhow, when I saw his response where he basically told me to F*CK OFF, I rightly said the following.
His response?You know, there was only one member here who agreed with his ridiculous response, and that one member was YOU. Please tell us why he was justified in telling somebody who was only trying to help him that I should go find another super happy pre-destination thread or something? For starters, he is totally ignorant of my beliefs surrounding predestination (and I have publicly voiced those beliefs on this forum). On top of that, as usual, he behaved himself like a petulant child.

Why would you agree with him?

You are not obligated to answer, but if you are going to pass around your judgments on others here, then please give an account of your own actions.

Thank you.

P.S.

Please do not wrongly think that I am being passively aggressive in this post. Tone can easily be read into an online post where it was never intended. I genuinely would like to know the answers to the questions that I asked here. Did I ask them in a straightforward manner? Yes, I did, but not in an intended "aggressive" manner. I am just pretty direct. I hope that is okay.
1. The OP never did paint himself as the victim. Somebody else may have, but he himself never did.

2. He never did spew venom. He replied with a short temper, but he is a long way from the venom you habitually and continually dispense.

3. I know you will never see this because you have me on ignore. I make this post for the benefit of others, that they may notice your accusations and be aware they are false.
 

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As a somewhat humorous (in attempt, anyway, if not in result..my attempts at humor normally bomb on this site) aside, has anybody noticed my relatively new avatar? It is a movie screen. and some of the inspiration for it came from my involvement in this thread. What do I mean by this? Well, seeing how so many people in this world love to project either their own sins, or what somebody else has done to them, unto others, I thought that I would make it a bit easier by setting up a movie screen for such projections.

Personally, I really don't care about such projections in the sense that I am truly not offended by any of them. Instead, my concern is for those, like the OP, who create their own strife, and then seek to blame it on others. That is as slippery a slope as being unjustifiably angry or mad at God is. In my opinion, anyway. If others here or elsewhere disagree, then fine. It is certainly their prerogative to do so. At the same time, however, for someone to start a thread with an open-ended question, only to then seek to run everybody whose answers don't match what they want to hear out of town, is extremely immature and improper in my eyes, and I believe in God's eyes as well. Again, everybody here is free to disagree. My opinion is simply that. My opinion. If it aligns with the word of God, then embrace it. If it does not, then discard it. I am merely a man. I am not God.
The irony in this post is incredible, as you are supplying a great example of what you are claiming others do. You generate a lot of your own strife and then project it on others. Then you put them on ignore.

This post about projecting is in fact you projecting onto others. Brilliant!
 
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1. The OP never did paint himself as the victim. Somebody else may have, but he himself never did.
You know, there are only a few posters that are not downright angry at me for simply making this thread. One guy was practically raging at me for simply posting this question.
Your other rewrites of history could just as easily be refuted.

Back to ignore for you...
 
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A really good pastor shared once, "Opinions are important but they don't matter", going on to teach how our God is fulfilling His plan to redeem His creation and invites us to be a part as we stay in Him, our opinion only matters because He laves and cares for us but His plan of redemption is first place.
what say you?
blessings
I like this! Good thought to ponder on..

He does care what we think. He wants to hear our thoughts even though he knows them already.
 

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True.

Do you believe that God loves it when someone tells somebody else whose only desire is to help them to "F off?"

I don't.

And that is only a tiny fragment of how the OP has interacted with one member here. His interactions with others here have been no better. Should we, as Christians, just turn a blind eye to it, or should we, as Christians, if we truly love such an one, try to help such an individual to see the error of their ways?

As I recently said on another thread here, true biblical love manifests in different ways at different times, and one of those ways is by correction or chastening. If anybody here has not been loving, then it is the OP.
I don't really think we can help anyone see the errors of their ways. Most of the time, we can't even see our own errors, let alone help someone with their's That's something that only God can sort out and deal with. I believe a great error is to hate what God loves. If we love what God loves, then there is no hate. There is only compassion, understanding, and forgiveness.
 

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And then there is this admonition from 2nd Timothy-
3 But know this, that in the last days [a]perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, [b]unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power, from such turn away.
God never said he didn't still love these people, or for us to stop loving them. This is to warn us. If we follow god the world will hate us.
 
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I don't really think we can help anyone see the errors of their ways. Most of the time, we can't even see our own errors, let alone help someone with their's That's something that only God can sort out and deal with.
We can help them to see the mote or minute piece in their eye if we first remove the beam from our own eye.

Mat 7:1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Ironically, that is why I participated in this thread to begin with. In other words, like the OP, I have oftentimes been tempted to be angry at God in the past. However, I have learned (removing the beam from my own eye first) that that is never a wise thing to do. I did not come here to judge the OP by any means. Instead, I came here to potentially help him in the same manner in which I have helped myself in the past.

Anyhow, we can only help people who truly want to be helped, and, even then, only if they want to be helped by us as individuals. Again, the OP does not know me, and my interactions with him on this thread were the first interactions that I ever had with him. Is hesitancy, on his part, understandable? Sure, it is. Hopefully, he will open up to receive help from somebody else here. I wish him nothing but the best, but let's not rewrite history.
I believe a great error is to hate what God loves. If we love what God loves, then there is no hate. There is only compassion, understanding, and forgiveness.
True, but this is not the whole story. In other words, there are things that God hates too, and we ought not to love the same.
 

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We can help them to see the mote or minute piece in their eye if we first remove the beam from our own eye.

Mat 7:1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Ironically, that is why I participated in this thread to begin with. In other words, like the OP, I have oftentimes been tempted to be angry at God in the past. However, I have learned (removing the beam from my own eye first) that that is never a wise thing to do. I did not come here to judge the OP by any means. Instead, I came here to potentially help him in the same manner in which I have helped myself in the past.

Anyhow, we can only help people who truly want to be helped, and, even then, only if they want to be helped by us as individuals. Again, the OP does not know me, and my interactions with him on this thread were the first interactions that I ever had with him. Is hesitancy, on his part, understandable? Sure, it is. Hopefully, he will open up to receive help from somebody else here. I wish him nothing but the best, but let's not rewrite history.
True, but this is not the whole story. In other words, there are things that God hates too, and we ought not to love the same.
Well, from the sounds of it and what I've read it probably would have been a lot better for you to say nothing at all. Cause you weren't coming from a place of understanding. You weren't coming to where he was. At and you weren't willing to walk alongside. It seems you just wanted to point out the speck in his eye. I could be wrong and forgive me if I am, but that's how it came across to me, and I believe that's how it came across to others as well.