Can't wait for the tribulation to start

[BOY]

On one hand ,Can't wait for the tribulation to start, so God can sort out the sheep From the goats, the good from the bad, the bad Christians from the good Christians. the just from the unjust.

I think he's going to turn things upside down. make the leadership of the Christian faith sweep the streets and clean up the dead bodies, where all the Christians at the bottom of the food chain, get to be the Kings and the priests.

Separate the fearful from the faithful the believers who are full of faith.

It's funny God always starts with his own people he's gonna clean us up first then after he's cleaned us up, he's gonna clean the world up.

All the leadership is worth today is to pass the milk bottle to the babes, the rest of it is so polluted it should be cast out and thrown to this swine. God will raise up his own leadership during the tribulation men and women of faith not men and women of fear like they are today.
False prophets have wriggled and wiggled themselves in to the Christian face making it impossible to find a decent Bunch That are not somehow polluted.

I deal with Christian leadership on a daily basis, it is full of fear and deceit and they think that's ok. Somehow they justify it to themselves thinking it's a part of God's plan unbelievable.
They're so desperate for it to be a pretribulation rapture that they hang on the tiniest threat of circumstantial evidence, to help justify in their hearts that they are right.
Maybe they're not ready to handle it so God has to send them strong delusion.

 

[Kroogz]

Hey Boy. We will explain it to you on the way up. Hope we can soften your heart in the process.

 

[Leastofall]

On one hand ,Can't wait for the tribulation to start, so God can sort out the sheep From the goats, the good from the bad, the bad Christians from the good Christians. the just from the unjust.

I think he's going to turn things upside down. make the leadership of the Christian faith sweep the streets and clean up the dead bodies, where all the Christians at the bottom of the food chain, get to be the Kings and the priests.

Separate the fearful from the faithful the believers who are full of faith.

It's funny God always starts with his own people he's gonna clean us up first then after he's cleaned us up, he's gonna clean the world up.

All the leadership is worth today is to pass the milk bottle to the babes, the rest of it is so polluted it should be cast out and thrown to this swine. God will raise up his own leadership during the tribulation men and women of faith not men and women of fear like they are today.
False prophets have wriggled and wiggled themselves in to the Christian face making it impossible to find a decent Bunch That are not somehow polluted.

I deal with Christian leadership on a daily basis, it is full of fear and deceit and they think that's ok. Somehow they justify it to themselves thinking it's a part of God's plan unbelievable.
They're so desperate for it to be a pretribulation rapture that they hang on the tiniest threat of circumstantial evidence, to help justify in their hearts that they are right.
Maybe they're not ready to handle it so God has to send them strong delusion.

You have no idea what your saying. Best get right before you get left.

 

[ResidentAlien]

On one hand ,Can't wait for the tribulation to start, so God can sort out the sheep From the goats, the good from the bad, the bad Christians from the good Christians. the just from the unjust.

I think he's going to turn things upside down. make the leadership of the Christian faith sweep the streets and clean up the dead bodies, where all the Christians at the bottom of the food chain, get to be the Kings and the priests.

Separate the fearful from the faithful the believers who are full of faith.

It's funny God always starts with his own people he's gonna clean us up first then after he's cleaned us up, he's gonna clean the world up.

All the leadership is worth today is to pass the milk bottle to the babes, the rest of it is so polluted it should be cast out and thrown to this swine. God will raise up his own leadership during the tribulation men and women of faith not men and women of fear like they are today.
False prophets have wriggled and wiggled themselves in to the Christian face making it impossible to find a decent Bunch That are not somehow polluted.

I deal with Christian leadership on a daily basis, it is full of fear and deceit and they think that's ok. Somehow they justify it to themselves thinking it's a part of God's plan unbelievable.
They're so desperate for it to be a pretribulation rapture that they hang on the tiniest threat of circumstantial evidence, to help justify in their hearts that they are right.
Maybe they're not ready to handle it so God has to send them strong delusion.

Can you give a few specific examples of who the swine, the cowards and the false prophets are that you're talking about? It would help me understand where you're coming from. You mentioned pre-tribbers. Are there others, or are you just talking about them?

 

[wolfwint]

On one hand ,Can't wait for the tribulation to start, so God can sort out the sheep From the goats, the good from the bad, the bad Christians from the good Christians. the just from the unjust.

I think he's going to turn things upside down. make the leadership of the Christian faith sweep the streets and clean up the dead bodies, where all the Christians at the bottom of the food chain, get to be the Kings and the priests.

Separate the fearful from the faithful the believers who are full of faith.

It's funny God always starts with his own people he's gonna clean us up first then after he's cleaned us up, he's gonna clean the world up.

All the leadership is worth today is to pass the milk bottle to the babes, the rest of it is so polluted it should be cast out and thrown to this swine. God will raise up his own leadership during the tribulation men and women of faith not men and women of fear like they are today.
False prophets have wriggled and wiggled themselves in to the Christian face making it impossible to find a decent Bunch That are not somehow polluted.

I deal with Christian leadership on a daily basis, it is full of fear and deceit and they think that's ok. Somehow they justify it to themselves thinking it's a part of God's plan unbelievable.
They're so desperate for it to be a pretribulation rapture that they hang on the tiniest threat of circumstantial evidence, to help justify in their hearts that they are right.
Maybe they're not ready to handle it so God has to send them strong delusion.

Maby you read the book of revealation again.
The great judgement is coming right after the Millennium. Not after the tribulation. There are at least 1000 years between.

 

[keepingthingsreal]

Can't wait for the tribulation to start

If so, then just live for Christ in this ungodly world, and you will face tribulation.

So many who claim to be Christians are obsessed with "THE tribulation," which, according to scripture, is only a 3 1/2 year period of time, and they will do anything in their power, including deluding themselves by wresting scripture, to try to avoid it. If these same people were truly living for Christ, then tribulation would be a normal part of their everyday lives.

Paul faced much tribulation during his lifetime (2 Cor. 1:4, 7:4, 1 Thess. 3:4).

Paul also told the saints at Lystra, Iconium, and Antioch that we (he and they) must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God (Acts 14:21-22). While writing about his own tribulations there, Paul not only called them persecutions, but he also said that all who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer the same.

2Ti 3:10
But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
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2Ti 3:11
Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
2Ti 3:12
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Are we truly suffering persecution? If we are not, then the reason is because we are not truly living godly in Christ Jesus.

Paul instructed the saints at Rome to glory in tribulations because tribulation works patience (Rom. 5:3, 12:12), and, nowadays, professing Christians are jumping through hoops as they try to avoid the same.

John faced tribulation (Rev. 1:9), and so did the church at Smyrna (Rev. 2:8-10).

Jesus informed his disciples that in the world they would have tribulation, but that they should be of good cheer because he has overcome the world.

Are we facing tribulation? If not, then maybe, just maybe, we are not truly his disciples.

Instead of focusing their attention on a small, yet-future, 3 1/2 year period of time, why don't those who profess to know Christ wonder why they are not facing tribulation now?

That seems like a reasonable question to me.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it? Amos 5:18-20

 

[homwardbound]

On one hand ,Can't wait for the tribulation to start, so God can sort out the sheep From the goats, the good from the bad, the bad Christians from the good Christians. the just from the unjust.

I think he's going to turn things upside down. make the leadership of the Christian faith sweep the streets and clean up the dead bodies, where all the Christians at the bottom of the food chain, get to be the Kings and the priests.

Separate the fearful from the faithful the believers who are full of faith.

It's funny God always starts with his own people he's gonna clean us up first then after he's cleaned us up, he's gonna clean the world up.

All the leadership is worth today is to pass the milk bottle to the babes, the rest of it is so polluted it should be cast out and thrown to this swine. God will raise up his own leadership during the tribulation men and women of faith not men and women of fear like they are today.
False prophets have wriggled and wiggled themselves in to the Christian face making it impossible to find a decent Bunch That are not somehow polluted.

I deal with Christian leadership on a daily basis, it is full of fear and deceit and they think that's ok. Somehow they justify it to themselves thinking it's a part of God's plan unbelievable.
They're so desperate for it to be a pretribulation rapture that they hang on the tiniest threat of circumstantial evidence, to help justify in their hearts that they are right.
Maybe they're not ready to handle it so God has to send them strong delusion.

From what I read, it seems to me you have seen behind the scenes of people in charge over lay people.
I think John the Baptist saw this also, as John was a Levite priest that Baptized Jesus into the Priesthood. Jesus was not a Levite, therefore none of the others would have ever baptized him into them. Yet, John did, was called into the wilderness to Water Baptize Jesus (Not knowing who he was) and when saw the Messiah coming (his cousin coming) Said
"Behold the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world"
And even said to Jesus that he needed to be baptized by Jesus, not to baptize Jesus. Yet Jesus said to John he needed for John to go it, why?
Yes fro him to do all that was right first, before he was to made the High Priest and a new law to be put own place of the Old Law
Hebrews 7:11-12

I have seen behind the scenes also, not good, what I saw anyways
The mysterious ways of God, that I do not understand I see this
A two edged sword one side sharp and good the other side also sharp and evil, yet seems as good
God is sharper Than any two-edged sword
It is done for us to be new in risen Son, not all are in yet the call to all is still present for now. So just love all whether are in with you or not. God in Son went to that cross once for us all to choose belief or not
Hebrews 10 Hebrews 8,9 also there is much to fathom and only Father in Spirit and Truth can reveal it, not me or you or anyone else, thanks
I see wait and then wait, and then see Luke 21:14-15 to understand to trust God to do through you over you trying to do it, a gigantic difference and then one rests in the done work of love to all from God through the cross of Son for them, at least me, Thanks

 

[rrcn]

Boy,
I wouldn’t be bitter, it best to look up, not around. Men will fail you every time, Jesus never fails.

 

[BOY]

You can't trust the leadership of the Christian faith anymore, especially the pretribulation believing Christian teacher or leadership. they swallowed the lie. God sent them strong delusion that they believe a lie because they believed not the love of the truth.

You can't trust them for their advice, because they have a blockage between them and the Lord some form of disobedience a lie between them and Jesus therefore you can't trust their counsel in a dangerous situation you couldn't take counsel from them because they are untrustworthy. They could lead you astray. You best get the counsel straight from the Lord.

I deal with the Christian faith and leadership on a daily basis. they are more interested in their business than they are in the Lord and his sheep and his word. They can't afford to change their minds from Pretrip to Posttrib view. because they have built the foundation of their business on the pre-Trib theory, And it would upset their stats to discuss or to change their minds Concerning the tribulation. They don't even want to talk about it. Just in case one of the subscribers changed their minds. And it's all about subscribers numbers getting paid from YouTube. Building their business growing their business Not interested in discussing or debating just interesting in the clicks the likes and subscribers.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it? Amos 5:18-20

Is this message aimed at God's faithful followers though? No, it isn't.

This passage in Amos was directed at the ungodly and rebellious who weren't following Him as He wanted them to.

Amos 9:8-10 is more specific:

8 “Surely the eyes of the Sovereign Lord
are on the sinful kingdom.
I will destroy it
from the face of the earth.
Yet I will not totally destroy
the descendants of Jacob,”
declares the Lord.
9 “For I will give the command,
and I will shake the people of Israel
among all the nations
as grain is shaken in a sieve,
and not a pebble will reach the ground.
10 All the sinners among my people
will die by the sword,
all those who say,
‘Disaster will not overtake or meet us.’


On the flip side, we who are faithful to the Lord should anticipate His return:

Luke 21:25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26 People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

2 Timothy 4:7 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 8 Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.


So don't discourage God's faithful from looking forward to the Day of the Lord:

Joel 2:31 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
32 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved;
for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
there will be deliverance,
as the Lord has said,
even among the survivors
whom the Lord calls.


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[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

So don't discourage God's faithful from looking forward to the Day of the Lord:

Joel 2:31 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
32 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved;
for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
there will be deliverance,
as the Lord has said,
even among the survivors
whom the Lord calls.

This was fulfilled at Pentecost

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 2:16-21​

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

This was fulfilled at Pentecost

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 2:16-21​

Remember that this has dual fulfillment, the complete fulfillment of it will occur on the Lord's return. I've also listed other verses that aren't just referring to Acts 2:16-21 but to the actual Day of the Lord.

I don't see why we who are faithful to God should not look forward to the Day of the Lord. It is only a terrible day for the people who won't follow Jesus. Of course I'm going to feel bad for them, but my longing for the Lord is even stronger!

Do you not look forward to His return too? You don't sound like it. Why aren't you then?


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[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Remember that this has dual fulfillment, the complete fulfillment of it will occur on the Lord's return. I've also listed other verses that aren't just referring to Acts 2:16-21 but to the actual Day of the Lord.

I don't see why we who are faithful to God should not look forward to the Day of the Lord. It is only a terrible day for the people who won't follow Jesus. Of course I'm going to feel bad for them, but my longing for the Lord is even stronger!

Do you not look forward to His return too? You don't sound like it. Why aren't you then?


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That prophecy pertained to Israel, not us. Look to Revelation for what we can expect. Amos said the day of the lord would be a time of great darkness. I look forward to the lord's return, but not that. I think that is what Amos was referring to.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

That prophecy pertained to Israel, not us. Look to Revelation for what we can expect. Amos said the day of the lord would be a time of great darkness. I look forward to the lord's return, but not that. I think that is what Amos was referring to.

Oh I see. You think the Day of the Lord isn't the same time as the Lord's return. Do you think @BOY is looking forward to the Day of the Lord and not the Lord's return?


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[lrs68]

Thread Op has spunk to his get up

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Oh I see. You think the Day of the Lord isn't the same time as the Lord's return. Do you think @BOY is looking forward to the Day of the Lord and not the Lord's return?


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There have been numerous days of the lord. There is not a singular day. The final day of the lord is what the book of Revelation is about. I do not look forward to what will transpire during that time, and I think people who say they can't wait for it are being foolish.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

There have been numerous days of the lord. There is not a singular day. The final day of the lord is what the book of Revelation is about. I do not look forward to what will transpire during that time, and I think people who say they can't wait for it are being foolish.

It's going to be a very rough time, that's for sure. Lots of dying, lots of hatred and betrayal and the loss of many things we hold dear. But I think this is why God time and again tells us to learn to endure to the end. Our spiritual foundation in Him has to be strong and that's what we have to build up.

It looks like it will happen in our lifetime. What are you doing to overcome your feelings of trepidation and be able to endure this time?


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[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

It looks like it will happen in our lifetime. What are you doing to overcome your feelings of trepidation and be able to endure this time?

I have no trepidation. It is what it is. I don't look forward to it, but I'll deal with it as it comes. It is indeed very close.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I have no trepidation. It is what it is. I don't look forward to it, but I'll deal with it as it comes. It is indeed very close.

One of the things I like to do is to read Revelation chapters 21 and 22 to remind myself that this is only for a few years and then God and all the good things He promised will be here FOREVER. It might help you too!

I think this is why @BOY is looking forward to the tribulation - because of the end result.


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