Understanding God’s election
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The gospel is the light that can open their eyes.
2 Corinthians 4:
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Darkness (the natural man himself) does not comprehend the Light. See John 1:5
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I lay all the abuse and destruction at the feet of sin. Those originally culpable for sin are Lucifer and Adam. That is where I lay the guilt, just as God has. You don't seem to make the same judgment concerning culpability as God does. Perhaps you can show me from scripture where God blames Himself for the actions of Satan and Adam.
Freewillers ALWAYS make assumptions when they read passages, and then read those assumptions into given passage (that method of interpretation called eisegesis!) thereby deceiving themselves into believing that they have proven God's truth, which in reality is one of their falsehoods.
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We aren't told what Satan knew, but through Herod he did try to kill the Christ child. Perhaps this is what some of the verses you alluded to is referring.
Question, how many times is man appointed to die? Will some die twice? Why or why not?
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
It is my experience that they simply refuse to read some verses and throw multiple verses completely
out of view whenever they attempt to integrate from their understanding the meaning of the text.
Then they will tell us, oh, you take that verse too seriously. LOL
While we are being accused of losing sight of the overall message of the Bible.
With all due respect, you don't read too swell. Cameron did not say that man created or designed the effects of the fall. But what he did basically say is that the effects were due to man's sin. God most certainly "designed" the effects when he promised DEATH for disobedience to his command. And death is what renders man helpless -- both in the physical and spiritual realms.
god constructed that nature in fallen man, man has no choice but to behave according to the nature god gave him at the fall.
Case closed.
Yes, Satan attacked the seed through Herod, in the same manner as he was attacking through Pharoah ordering all the Hebrew boys to be killed.
But only by the power of the Holy Spirit after he opens sinners' eyes. And He clearly does not open all people's eyes.
Okay. Do you have the natural man accepting what Scripture says he cannot know or receive, and believing what is foolishness to him?
Get a clue man.
Jesus God is literally weeping for his lost angelic sons. Including Satan himself.
Yeah...it's called preserving the parallels between physical and spiritual death. Something you are loathe to do!
Oh but they did raise themselves to life while they were dead. So there is that...
Didn't they????
I read this .. seems quite clear.
If God did not design it then God is not sovereign, then who did design it, it could not have been some spontaneous uncontrolled result.
God determined the effects of the fall on man's nature.