Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Tamarisk said:
I'm not talking about truth. I'm talking about perspective.

My perspective is a. Your perspective is b however if you had my perspective you would arrive at the same conclusions I did just like if I had your perspective I would arrive at the same conclusions you did.

You believe what you believe and I cannot change your belief.

I believe what I believe and I cannot change what I believe.

We can share what we believe to better understand each other.

And that's it because there's no point in arguing or debating because I'm not going to change you you're not going to change me and it's going to be a complete waste of time.

Have a merry Christmas 🎄
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Well that's the way to start down the pathway of certain error is abandoning the truth for perception. I don't really care to change your mind, see that's where the heathens go wrong is they think we care that Satan's kids hate Christianity, but we don't really care about that at all, nor do we really wonder why they are evil because we already know it is because they are deceived and so they go on trying to deceive, that's the whole name of the game of Satan's kingdom. I'll decline to accept your lies and join your cult and I will stick with the truth and have a very merry Christmas indeed.
 
Cameron143 said:
Both are true. There is tape of Metro PD dropping off the person who planted the bombs and picking him up. Those who put up the gallows were probably FBI sources. The whole thing wreaks of a setup.
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There's tape of Luke Skywalker blowing up the Death Star too, but that doesn't mean it actually happened. The gallows is just theatrics, setting up a stage prop isn't real violence. You're closer and actualy a thinker though so I liked your post, but I don't even buy the whole false flag set-up story. Made for TV movies aren't the same as reality.
 
Cameron143 said:
Both are true. There is tape of Metro PD dropping off the person who planted the bombs and picking him up. Those who put up the gallows were probably FBI sources. The whole thing wreaks of a setup.
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SonJudgment said:
Well that's the way to start down the pathway of certain error is abandoning the truth for perception. I don't really care to change your mind, see that's where the heathens go wrong is they think we care that Satan's kids hate Christianity, but we don't really care about that at all, nor do we really wonder why they are evil because we already know it is because they are deceived and so they go on trying to deceive, that's the whole name of the game of Satan's kingdom. I'll decline to accept your lies and join your cult and I will stick with the truth and have a very merry Christmas indeed.
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Look man I'm just a never Trumper. If anyone else other than Trump was running against Harris in 2024 this would be a completely different discussion.

If you want to label me as evil just because I don't like one particular politician that's fine. You do you.

Don't you at least see how that behavior can be viewed as cultish?

We would probably agree on many other Republican candidates that could have run against Harris except for Trump.

And it's this one particular guy, Trump, You call me a heathen and a child of lies because I don't agree with him. And you wonder why I say that is cultish behavior?

The Democratic party has abandoned its constituents in favor of wedge issues. Just like the Republican party. I want a populist candidate I don't care what party they're in.
 
SonJudgment said:
There's tape of Luke Skywalker blowing up the Death Star too, but that doesn't mean it actually happened. The gallows is just theatrics, setting up a stage prop isn't real violence. You're closer and actualy a thinker though so I liked your post, but I don't even buy the whole false flag set-up story. Made for TV movies aren't the same as reality.
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Props direct narrative. The left always tells A story, not THE story. It's how they get people to accept what they are saying.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Props direct narrative. The left always tells A story, not THE story. It's how they get people to accept what they are saying.
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Don't you understand if they are telling a story then they are telling it to me! Then I'm deceived by it and I fully admit it could be happening because the only thing I claim to know for sure in this world is Christ and him crucified.
 
Tamarisk said:
Look man I'm just a never Trumper. If anyone else other than Trump was running against Harris in 2024 this would be a completely different discussion.

If you want to label me as evil just because I don't like one particular politician that's fine. You do you.

Don't you at least see how that behavior can be viewed as cultish?

We would probably agree on many other Republican candidates that could have run against Harris except for Trump.

And it's this one particular guy, Trump, You call me a heathen and a child of lies because I don't agree with him. And you wonder why I say that is cultish behavior?

The Democratic party has abandoned its constituents in favor of wedge issues. Just like the Republican party. I want a populist candidate I don't care what party they're in.
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I haven't called you anything. And Trump is a populist candidate.
 
Tamarisk said:
Don't you understand if they are telling a story then they are telling it to me! Then I'm deceived by it and I fully admit it could be happening because the only thing I claim to know for sure on this world is Christ and him crucified.
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Right. But Christians should seek not to be deceived. You have already admitted that you can't stand Trump. This already biases your view.
Trump is no angel, nor do I agree with all he proposes, but people have been economically crushed the last 4 years and are less safe. All of this was caused by the group currently running the country...not Trump. Hopefully as the truth about J6 is made known, you'll at least be open to it.
 
Cameron143 said:
Right. But Christians should seek not to be deceived. You have already admitted that you can't stand Trump. This already biases your view.
Trump is no angel, nor do I agree with all he proposes, but people have been economically crushed the last 4 years and are less safe. All of this was caused by the group currently running the country...not Trump. Hopefully as the truth about J6 is made known, you'll at least be open to it.
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The thing is you could be decived as well. We are talking about things of this world. The devil is in charge of this world.

So when it comes down to it we just have different opinions.

We are still both siblings not of this world.

We are not enemy's
 
Tamarisk said:
The thing is you could be decived as well. We are talking about things of this world. The devil is in charge of this world.

So when it comes down to it we just have different opinions.

We are still both siblings not of this world.

We are not enemy's
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I'm not deceived because I don't care what the truth is; I only want truth. And while we may have different opinions on what the truth means, my opinions aren't tainted by my personal like or dislike of the individuals involved.
 
Tamarisk said:
Look man I'm just a never Trumper. If anyone else other than Trump was running against Harris in 2024 this would be a completely different discussion.

If you want to label me as evil just because I don't like one particular politician that's fine. You do you.

Don't you at least see how that behavior can be viewed as cultish?

We would probably agree on many other Republican candidates that could have run against Harris except for Trump.

And it's this one particular guy, Trump, You call me a heathen and a child of lies because I don't agree with him. And you wonder why I say that is cultish behavior?

The Democratic party has abandoned its constituents in favor of wedge issues. Just like the Republican party. I want a populist candidate I don't care what party they're in.
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So you are a never Trumper because people lied to you and you believe the lies because you just hate Trump. You say you want a populist, well guess what you got one and it was Trump. Kamala was installed against the vote, and you're willing to side with that Jezebel just for hatred's sake, how is that not cultish? Come on over to our side then if it be true what you say, we'll accept you.

As for heathens and the children of the Devil, I didn't say you are a heathen or a child of the Devil, but I will say that you'll definitely end up there if you keep plodding down the pathway you laid out, your mindset where you're willing to abandon the truth for the sake of perception or if you really care what the heathen thinks about Christians, or if you think a Christian should at all care about pleasing Satan's kids. You always become the company you keep. To be clear the whole theme is expressed over and over again by the cult on here that they think we wonder why Satan's kids are evil or they think we really care what Satan's kingdom thinks about Christianity. Let's make it watertight clear that no Christian that is serious about their faith wonders why the heathens are evil, we know already, it's because they're deceived. The Bible is abundantly clear about them. Satan's whole kingdom is deceived deceivers, that's their whole modus operandi and how their spiritual ikingdom works. We're not Christians because we care about them or their twisted perspectives. There's not a single saint that ever cared about pleasing the pagans, not even one.
 
SonJudgment said:
So you are a never Trumper because people lied to you and you believe the lies because you just hate Trump. You say you want a populist, well guess what you got one and it was Trump. Kamala was installed against the vote, and you're willing to side with that Jezebel just for hatred's sake, how is that not cultish? Come on over to our side then if it be true what you say, we'll accept you.

As for heathens and the children of the Devil, I didn't say you are a heathen or a child of the Devil, but I will say that you'll definitely end up there if you keep plodding down the pathway you laid out, your mindset where you're willing to abandon the truth for the sake of perception or if you really care what the heathen thinks about Christians, or if you think a Christian should at all care about pleasing Satan's kids. You always become the company you keep. To be clear the whole theme is expressed over and over again by the cult on here that they think we wonder why Satan's kids are evil or they think we really care what Satan's kingdom thinks about Christianity. Let's make it watertight clear that no Christian that is serious about their faith wonders why the heathens are evil, we know already, it's because they're deceived. The Bible is abundantly clear about them. Satan's whole kingdom is deceived deceivers, that's their whole modus operandi and how their spiritual ikingdom works. We're not Christians because we care about them or their twisted perspectives. There's not a single saint that ever cared about pleasing the pagans, not even one.
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We can agree to disagree
 
Cameron143 said:
I'm not deceived because I don't care what the truth is; I only want truth. And while we may have different opinions on what the truth means, my opinions aren't tainted by my personal like or dislike of the individuals involved.
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I only want truth myself but the difference between me and you is I don't believe I will find it in politics. The only thing I will finds is opinions.
 
Tamarisk said:
We can agree to disagree
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Nah there will be no agreement between light and darkness. Nor can any man serve two masters. The only option the servants of the Enemy have is to surrender and abandon their comrades and their master who deceived them, defect to God's side, or certainly perish.
 
SonJudgment said:
Nah there will be no agreement between light and darkness. Nor can any man serve two masters. The only option the servants of the Enemy have is to surrender and abandon their comrades and their master who deceived them, defect to God's side, or certainly perish.
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So now I'm of the darkness because I have a different political opinion then you?
 
Tamarisk said:
So now I'm of the darkness because I have a different political opinion then you?
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You tell me. I'm just telling you that there is no agreement between light and darkness. Nor can any man serve two masters. The only option the servants of the Enemy have is to surrender or perish.
 
SonJudgment said:
You tell me. I'm just telling you that there is no agreement between light and darkness. Nor can any man serve two masters. The only option the servants of the Enemy have is to surrender or perish.
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You definitely insinuated it. This is why people think you're in a cult. Take responsibility for your actions.
 
Tamarisk said:
You definitely insinuated it. This is why people think you're in a cult. Take responsibility for your actions.
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Why should I care what lies the deceived make up themselves and then think about me? Won't change the truth that there can be no agreement between light and darkness. There will never be a compromise between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Satan. This is war, the servants of the Enemy will not dictate any terms, they can only surrender or perish. If I were stupid enough to enter concord with them then this also won't change the dynamic, I'll only end perishing with them. So big decline on their attempts to get me to convert to their cult or make any agreement to be wrong and evil with them.
 
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