Understanding God’s election
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That gets translated/interpreted to mean we treat God like the loving Father He is to us, and we are His trusting children. .
Romans 8:15-16 You did not receive a spirit of slavery that returns you to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
Romans 8:15-16 You did not receive a spirit of slavery that returns you to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
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Why did God create those He had foreknown would not be of the elect?
God has made the wicked even for the day of evil... (Prov 16:4).
Yeah I’m saying babies don’t and can’t commit sin , so they don’t need to have thier sins remitted ……
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”
James 4:17 KJV
babies and small children don’t know good and evil they learn it as tbey grow up
“Train up a child in the way he should go: And when he is old, he will not depart from it.”
Proverbs 22:6 KJV
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”
James 4:17 KJV
babies and small children don’t know good and evil they learn it as tbey grow up
“Train up a child in the way he should go: And when he is old, he will not depart from it.”
Proverbs 22:6 KJV
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Yet...at the same time I know more than a few godly families who have sons or daughters who hate God, Jesus and the Gospel. The above passage is a solid guideline but there is no guarantee that God will save such children. And we shouldn't forget that Christ did not come to bring peace upon families, but rather his gospel tends to DIVIDE families.
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God will never interfere with your will. #shorts #billygraham #joy
Salvation is for everyone. God is outside of time he knows before people are born if they will come to him.
Salvation is for everyone. God is outside of time he knows before people are born if they will come to him.
Yes true because they live in a world of evil influence
“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
1 John 2:15-17 KJV
what do you say about temptations ?
“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: but every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.”
James 1:13-15
As we grow up in life we’re going to face the world of wickedness we dwell in and have to make choices tbat will determine the outcome of our souls if we choose the gospel we’re going to be saved
“Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;
whether of sin unto death,
or of obedience unto righteousness?”
Romans 6:16 KJV
We have to serve good or evil since Adam ate the fruit
Abel served good , cain served evil
Enoch served God and walked with him , Noah served God and walked with him , job served God also acceptable and knew him ,Abraham believed the Lord and was considered righteous and was called Gods friend . All of this happened even before the law was given at Sinai……
befor the broken covenant and all men becoming hopeless
“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
1 John 2:15-17 KJV
what do you say about temptations ?
“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: but every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.”
James 1:13-15
As we grow up in life we’re going to face the world of wickedness we dwell in and have to make choices tbat will determine the outcome of our souls if we choose the gospel we’re going to be saved
“Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;
whether of sin unto death,
or of obedience unto righteousness?”
Romans 6:16 KJV
We have to serve good or evil since Adam ate the fruit
Abel served good , cain served evil
Enoch served God and walked with him , Noah served God and walked with him , job served God also acceptable and knew him ,Abraham believed the Lord and was considered righteous and was called Gods friend . All of this happened even before the law was given at Sinai……
befor the broken covenant and all men becoming hopeless
I think your putting a lot of weight on the phrase “ slave “
“Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;
whether of sin unto death,
or of obedience unto righteousness?
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, ( we used to offer ourselves to sin freely ) but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. ( remember Paul’s discussing baptism)
Being then made free from sin,
ye became the servants of righteousness.”( now as born again Christian’s , we choose to yield ourselves to God and not sin as we did before )
Romans 6:16-18 KJV
“I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity;
even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.”
Romans 6:19 KJV
if we don’t know and believe we can choose , it’s only then when we have no choice.
“Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;
whether of sin unto death,
or of obedience unto righteousness?
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, ( we used to offer ourselves to sin freely ) but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. ( remember Paul’s discussing baptism)
Being then made free from sin,
ye became the servants of righteousness.”( now as born again Christian’s , we choose to yield ourselves to God and not sin as we did before )
Romans 6:16-18 KJV
“I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity;
even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.”
Romans 6:19 KJV
if we don’t know and believe we can choose , it’s only then when we have no choice.
I see a lot of talk of people not having a choice. Where does this come from? With some it seems a deliberate misrepresentation and others it seems more like a total lack of understanding. I would not be hasty and put you in the first group, but then I wonder if you really have never seen me making a distinction between choice and freedom of will. Many make no distinction at all, and that is a shame. You say we should believe Scripture then turn around and say something as important as being born again is not a real thing. You puzzle me. Oh, I am wondering too if @HeIsHere agrees with your take on being born again not being a real thing. If she swooped in to correct you and defend the gospel as she believes it is her mission, I missed it.
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Yeah, and you are mixing two completely different types of people in your analysis. You really
ought not do that. The slave to sn is not set free, I wonder that you really do not grasp that.
Perhaps you should take the word "slave" more seriously. Captive to the will of the devil.
Lover of darkness. Hostile to God. Cannot obey. Gee, you really ignore a LOT of Scripture.
I have pointed these and many other verses out to you many times.
ought not do that. The slave to sn is not set free, I wonder that you really do not grasp that.
Perhaps you should take the word "slave" more seriously. Captive to the will of the devil.
Lover of darkness. Hostile to God. Cannot obey. Gee, you really ignore a LOT of Scripture.
I have pointed these and many other verses out to you many times.
I maintain all consistent Calvinists inevitably believe in double predestination.
They either believe God actively predestined some to hell, as Calvin does, or He did so by choosing not to offer what would have surely delivered them from hell to heaven, which is unconditional election and selective regeneration.
A tragic contradiction in Calvinism, that depicts God unlike the God of Scripture.
Babies are not born evil.
They either believe God actively predestined some to hell, as Calvin does, or He did so by choosing not to offer what would have surely delivered them from hell to heaven, which is unconditional election and selective regeneration.
A tragic contradiction in Calvinism, that depicts God unlike the God of Scripture.
Babies are not born evil.
And then we have you and your buddies claiming and/or applauding ideas like God acting unilaterally makes
Him an unjust tyrant kidnapping people against their "free will" and a hoax of salvation and repentance.
Some of you are so adamantly against admitting what Scripture actually says that when the truth of the revealed written Word is presented, it gets denied left right and center seven ways to Sunday, with some insisting we make God a rapist because He did NOT ask Mary's permission, as if she did not give her consent (which she did), and even worse, as if the ridiculous so-called Christian making such outlandish false accusations believes God actually had sexual relations with Mary. The slander from some of you just never ends.
Him an unjust tyrant kidnapping people against their "free will" and a hoax of salvation and repentance.
Some of you are so adamantly against admitting what Scripture actually says that when the truth of the revealed written Word is presented, it gets denied left right and center seven ways to Sunday, with some insisting we make God a rapist because He did NOT ask Mary's permission, as if she did not give her consent (which she did), and even worse, as if the ridiculous so-called Christian making such outlandish false accusations believes God actually had sexual relations with Mary. The slander from some of you just never ends.
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