Isn't it that the commandments of God is for everybody?

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EPHESIANS 5:22-23

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
I am wondering though why you say you have been a Christian since your birth? Do you have a reference in scripture that indicates some people are born as Christians while others become a Christian through faith in the Son of God?
 

Pilgrimshope

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No. "The Law" in this context is the Law given to the ancient Israelites on Sinai.
“These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭29:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The law given by Moses to israel regarding marriage and divorce

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭24:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus the lord is asked about it

“And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.

And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?

And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. ( they are correct about what Moses commanded )

And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:2-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just to point it out moses commanded this in the law

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.”

and Jesus says plainly

“If anyone shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.”


The law of Moses is the Old Testament of God to israel. the gospel which Jesus preached and then sent to all people is the New Testament of God . Each testament has a mediator Moses the old and Jesus the new . It’s no longer about Moses commands and ordinances it’s all about the gospel now that for all people to live by
 

Dino246

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#23
“These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭29:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The law given by Moses to israel regarding marriage and divorce

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭24:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus the lord is asked about it

“And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.

And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?

And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. ( they are correct about what Moses commanded )

And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:2-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just to point it out moses commanded this in the law

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.”

and Jesus says plainly

“If anyone shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.”


The law of Moses is the Old Testament of God to israel. the gospel which Jesus preached and then sent to all people is the New Testament of God . Each testament has a mediator Moses the old and Jesus the new . It’s no longer about Moses commands and ordinances it’s all about the gospel now that for all people to live by
Why are you yelling at me again, and which part of my post did you find objectionable that you think warranted such a lengthy response?
 

HeIsHere

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Why are you yelling at me again, and which part of my post did you find objectionable that you think warranted such a lengthy response?
FYI


Text in print is considered yelling when it's written in all caps, which can make it appear bolder and "louder" than mixed case. This is sometimes referred to as "screaming" or "shouting".

AI says so.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Why are you yelling at me again, and which part of my post did you find objectionable that you think warranted such a lengthy response?
It was Scripture supporting what you said . And what do you mean yelling ?
 

Pilgrimshope

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FYI


Text in print is considered yelling when it's written in all caps, which can make it appear bolder and "louder" than mixed case. This is sometimes referred to as "screaming" or "shouting".

AI says so.
Ahh I see . Well if ai says so lol

i thought the editing and presentation tools here were to be used in the forum by the users. I must have missed the sensitivity training and bizarro internet understandings normally when you embolden or enlarge print it’s meant to highlight something in the text

I suppose the ai world and virtual yelling deal I just have missed lol thank goodness I never figured out the color tool I may be “ racist “ if I change the color of the text lol
 

HeIsHere

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Ahh I see . Well if ai says so lol

i thought the editing and presentation tools here were to be used in the forum by the users. I must have missed the sensitivity training and bizarro internet understandings normally when you embolden or enlarge print it’s meant to highlight something in the text

I suppose the ai world and virtual yelling deal I just have missed lol thank goodness I never figured out the color tool I may be “ racist “ if I change the color of the text lol

You may have misunderstood my post.

Your post/text was NOT in all caps therefore you were NOT yelling as you were accused.

It is fine to bold and enlarge, no one should take it as yelling.

I like AI, it is fun. Certainly very handy.
 

Dino246

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Ahh I see . Well if ai says so lol

i thought the editing and presentation tools here were to be used in the forum by the users. I must have missed the sensitivity training and bizarro internet understandings normally when you embolden or enlarge print it’s meant to highlight something in the text

I suppose the ai world and virtual yelling deal I just have missed lol thank goodness I never figured out the color tool I may be “ racist “ if I change the color of the text lol
You are indeed free to use the formatting tools as you see fit. However, I'm not blind, and I naturally ignore text that is overly emphasized rather than paying attention to it.

If you are responding to me, and want to get my attention, try just using italics or, more sparingly, bold face text, rather than large bold fonts.
 

Pilgrimshope

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You may have misunderstood my post.

Your post/text was NOT in all caps therefore you were NOT yelling as you were accused.

It is fine to bold and enlarge, no one should take it as yelling.

I like AI, it is fun. Certainly very handy.
I was trying to be funny with ai comment sorry lol and sarcasm ect

i was just making the joke that people these days jump to what ai says ( not that you or anyone here were doing that but in general I’ve noticed in life )

I remember years ago people were saying “ I googled it man it’s true “ now everyone knows the internet is all discombobulated information wise lol so they say “ ai says this or that man it’s true “

it took me along time to realize what googling it meant lol it sounded a lot more exciting than it turned out to be
Im sorry
 

Pilgrimshope

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You are indeed free to use the formatting tools as you see fit. However, I'm not blind, and I naturally ignore text that is overly emphasized rather than paying attention to it.

If you are responding to me, and want to get my attention, try just using italics or, more sparingly, bold face text, rather than large bold fonts.
Yea I was just wondering why me enlarging part of a scripture , is somehow me yelling at you

i literally didn’t understand until I read the next message from the other brother explaining it

and yea I’m alright posting how and what I posted for a couple years now . If it’s offensive to you , I apologize and won’t interact with you. I’m alright either way honestly no offense taken or intended.
 

Dino246

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Yea I was just wondering why me enlarging part of a scripture , is somehow me yelling at you

i literally didn’t understand until I read the next message from the other brother explaining it

and yea I’m alright posting how and what I posted for a couple years now . If it’s offensive to you , I apologize and won’t interact with you. I’m alright either way honestly no offense taken or intended.
Again you misrepresent my words. Do you try to be a jackdonkey or do you just not know how to treat others with respect?
 

Pilgrimshope

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Again you misrepresent my words. Do you try to be a jackdonkey or do you just not know how to treat others with respect?
“Again you misrepresent my words. “

ugghhg How did my replying to you misrepresent your words ? You seem to always want to seem like you’ve been wronged and victimized ….doesn’t that get old ?
 

Dino246

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“Again you misrepresent my words. “

ugghhg How did my replying to you misrepresent your words ? You seem to always want to seem like you’ve been wronged and victimized ….doesn’t that get old ?
Wronged and victimized... there you go again. Did your mama beat you instead of hugging you?
 

Aaron56

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@Dino246 @Pilgrimshope
You two are some of my favorite people on this message board.

Dino, Pilgrim often follows other’s comments with supporting scripture. He’s not correcting, he’s supporting. His bolded and large words are those he finds most important in the citations.

Now go have a beer or Pepsi together…:cool:
 

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EPHESIANS 5:22-23

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
I thought Paul was talking about the church?
 

HeIsHere

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“Again you misrepresent my words. “

ugghhg How did my replying to you misrepresent your words ? You seem to always want to seem like you’ve been wronged and victimized ….doesn’t that get old ?
Strange days. Mr. logic has succumbed to ad hom. It happens I guess.
 

HeIsHere

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I was trying to be funny with ai comment sorry lol and sarcasm ect
Yes I did understand you were joking. :)

You were in the right, you were using emphasis how you want to use it and it was not yelling.
 

Pilgrimshope

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@Dino246 @Pilgrimshope
You two are some of my favorite people on this message board.

Dino, Pilgrim often follows other’s comments with supporting scripture. He’s not correcting, he’s supporting. His bolded and large words are those he finds most important in the citations.

Now go have a beer or Pepsi together…:cool:
Good lord brother I couldn’t have a beer lol been sober now for thirty three years also have diabetes haha so Pepsi would need to be sugar free
 

Pilgrimshope

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Yes I did understand you were joking. :)

You were in the right, you were using emphasis how you want to use it and it was not yelling.
It’s been an issue for a couple people in three years . I probably should just take note of people who I guess have it somehow offends how another person writes something or what size the text is lol probably shouldn’t be so stubborn about it

anyways I’d like to discuss the bible more with you in the future brother because I was getting a lot from it. And hope we have the chance you are an edifying person to discuss with , and a great example of the right spirit to discuss in. Always a blessing to hear from you !!