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The work of God is simply to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ...John 6:28-29. Spiritual work is believing what God says. Faith is spiritual work.
All the work for our salvation has already been done. Jesus paid for our sins on the cross and lived a perfect life so His righteousness could be imputed to us. By trusting this we enter into rest. No longer do we need to strive to acquire peace with God. In Christ, we are already reconciled.
Well, you have been verified to be boasting only in the Christ, well done.
All the work for our salvation has already been done. Jesus paid for our sins on the cross and lived a perfect life so His righteousness could be imputed to us. By trusting this we enter into rest. No longer do we need to strive to acquire peace with God. In Christ, we are already reconciled.
Well, you have been verified to be boasting only in the Christ, well done.
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Wow. The @Inquisitor seal of approval. Can't beat that.
God’s seal beats it all and its found in the Sabbath commandment. His name ( God) Title (Creator) and Territory (Heaven and Earth) Exo 20:11 The Sabbath rest is according to the commandment Luke 23:56, not the way it sounds pleasing to the ears. The Sabbath commandment says we are to rest on the seventh day Exo 20:8-11 just as God did.
It’s like the command not to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge. Does eat doesn’t really mean eat, no He meant spiritual food, God didn’t really say not to actually eat. We can always spiritualize away anything God commanded, but at the end who are we really following? God said He would not alter His words Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18, seems like a bad idea to do it anyway.
It’s like the command not to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge. Does eat doesn’t really mean eat, no He meant spiritual food, God didn’t really say not to actually eat. We can always spiritualize away anything God commanded, but at the end who are we really following? God said He would not alter His words Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18, seems like a bad idea to do it anyway.
You are overgeneralizing.
God loves all.
And wants to save all.
There is history between the Jews and the surrounding nations and God promised Abraham that by his seed (Singular, Jesus).
All nations would be blessed.
Gen 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Jesus died for all.
Think about the path Jesus took.
Joh 4:5 Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
And Jesus a Jew asked a Samaritan woman for drink..... very humble for Jesus.
Joh 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
Joh 4:21-24
21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The hour had come .... True worship was about the Spirit and truth.
Joh 4:34-35
34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. 35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
The harvest that Jesus was interested in was Samaritans...
Joh 4:40-42
40 So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days. 41 And many more believed because of his own word; 42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
There is no doubt that God choose the Jews so that Jesus could be born and all nations could be blessed. But today we are all one in Christ.
Paul is clear that today, there is neither Jew nor gentile. It is all about our hearts.
Gal 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Col 3:10-11
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Rom 2:28-29
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
God loves all.
And wants to save all.
There is history between the Jews and the surrounding nations and God promised Abraham that by his seed (Singular, Jesus).
All nations would be blessed.
Gen 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Jesus died for all.
Think about the path Jesus took.
Joh 4:5 Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
And Jesus a Jew asked a Samaritan woman for drink..... very humble for Jesus.
Joh 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
Joh 4:21-24
21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The hour had come .... True worship was about the Spirit and truth.
Joh 4:34-35
34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. 35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
The harvest that Jesus was interested in was Samaritans...
Joh 4:40-42
40 So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days. 41 And many more believed because of his own word; 42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
There is no doubt that God choose the Jews so that Jesus could be born and all nations could be blessed. But today we are all one in Christ.
Paul is clear that today, there is neither Jew nor gentile. It is all about our hearts.
Gal 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Col 3:10-11
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Rom 2:28-29
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Your talking about the new creation in Christ.
Here are the verses you quoted again and read them again.
Gal 3:28-29
28 for you are all one in Christ Jesus...
Col 3:10-11
10 And have put on the new man...
Rom 2:28-29
28 in the spirit, and not in the letter...
This is not about the human heart it's about the new creation in the spirit.
Rom 2:28-29
in the spirit, and not in the letter...
Your doing my job for me!
Here are the verses you quoted again and read them again.
Gal 3:28-29
28 for you are all one in Christ Jesus...
Col 3:10-11
10 And have put on the new man...
Rom 2:28-29
28 in the spirit, and not in the letter...
This is not about the human heart it's about the new creation in the spirit.
Rom 2:28-29
in the spirit, and not in the letter...
Your doing my job for me!
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The creation itself changed and went from the old creation to the new creation.
The sons of Adam became the sons of Jesus Christ.
We went from fallen self righteousness to Christ's righteousness.
Some were holding onto broken stone tablets reminding them of the old creation.
2 Corinthians 5:16-17
Therefore from now on we recognize no one by the flesh; even though we have known Christ by the flesh,
yet now we know Him in this way no longer. Therefore if anyone is in Christ, this person is a new creation;
the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
We are looking ahead to the reality of the new heaven and earth.
Colossians 1:13
For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son.
We are in the new kingdom of His Son.
The sons of Adam became the sons of Jesus Christ.
We went from fallen self righteousness to Christ's righteousness.
Some were holding onto broken stone tablets reminding them of the old creation.
2 Corinthians 5:16-17
Therefore from now on we recognize no one by the flesh; even though we have known Christ by the flesh,
yet now we know Him in this way no longer. Therefore if anyone is in Christ, this person is a new creation;
the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
We are looking ahead to the reality of the new heaven and earth.
Colossians 1:13
For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son.
We are in the new kingdom of His Son.
The real sophistry are the interpretations that alter the text.
Romans 9:4
Who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons and daughters, the glory, the covenants,
the giving of the Law, the temple service, and the promises.
The verse above states that Israel had the law!
When you see the phrase "the law" you change that phrase to "the ceremonial law".
And you accuse me of sophistry?
I do not ignore any text and I do not interpret any text.
Romans 9:4
Who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons and daughters, the glory, the covenants,
the giving of the Law, the temple service, and the promises.
The verse above states that Israel had the law!
When you see the phrase "the law" you change that phrase to "the ceremonial law".
And you accuse me of sophistry?
I do not ignore any text and I do not interpret any text.
Yes,you do. Paul did not abolish Sabbath or the law.
For all readers of this thread this article is worth your time to learn of this.
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Did Paul abolish the Sabbath?
If the Sabbath, or any part of God's law, was abolished or changed in the early New Testament Church, we should find clear evidence of such a dramatic shift in the New Testament writings. After all, the books of the New Testament were written in the first century over a period of decades ending in the 90s, more than 60 years after Jesus' death and resurrection.
Many who argue that the Sabbath was abolished in the New Testament point to the apostle Paul's writings to justify their view. But is this opinion correct? They commonly cite three passages to support that claim—Romans 14:5-6, Colossians 2:16-17 and Galatians 4:9-10.
To properly understand these passages we must look at each in context, both in the immediate context of what is being discussed and in the larger social and historical context influencing the author and his audience at the time. We must also be careful not to read our preconceived notions into the text. With that in mind, let's examine these passages and see if Paul indeed annulled or abolished Sabbath observance in his writings.
First, let's consider Paul's own statements about God's law. More than 25 years after the death of Jesus Christ, he wrote in Romans 7:12, "Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good." In Romans 2:13 he stated, "For not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified." In Romans 7:22 he said, "For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man."
Many assume that once we have faith in Jesus Christ, we have no more need to keep the law. Paul himself addressed this concept in Romans 3:31: "Do we then make void [Greek katargeo, meaning 'destroy' or 'abolish'] the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish [Greek histemi, meaning 'erect' or 'make to stand'] the law." Faith does not abolish the law, said Paul; it establishes and upholds it."
Full article: https://www.ucg.org/learn/bible-study-tools/bible-study-aids/sunset-sunset-gods-sabbath-rest/sunset-sunset-gods-4#:~:text="Therefore the law is holy,not change God's Sabbath day.
For all readers of this thread this article is worth your time to learn of this.
Excerpt:
"....
Did Paul abolish the Sabbath?
If the Sabbath, or any part of God's law, was abolished or changed in the early New Testament Church, we should find clear evidence of such a dramatic shift in the New Testament writings. After all, the books of the New Testament were written in the first century over a period of decades ending in the 90s, more than 60 years after Jesus' death and resurrection.
Many who argue that the Sabbath was abolished in the New Testament point to the apostle Paul's writings to justify their view. But is this opinion correct? They commonly cite three passages to support that claim—Romans 14:5-6, Colossians 2:16-17 and Galatians 4:9-10.
To properly understand these passages we must look at each in context, both in the immediate context of what is being discussed and in the larger social and historical context influencing the author and his audience at the time. We must also be careful not to read our preconceived notions into the text. With that in mind, let's examine these passages and see if Paul indeed annulled or abolished Sabbath observance in his writings.
First, let's consider Paul's own statements about God's law. More than 25 years after the death of Jesus Christ, he wrote in Romans 7:12, "Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good." In Romans 2:13 he stated, "For not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified." In Romans 7:22 he said, "For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man."
Many assume that once we have faith in Jesus Christ, we have no more need to keep the law. Paul himself addressed this concept in Romans 3:31: "Do we then make void [Greek katargeo, meaning 'destroy' or 'abolish'] the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish [Greek histemi, meaning 'erect' or 'make to stand'] the law." Faith does not abolish the law, said Paul; it establishes and upholds it."
Full article: https://www.ucg.org/learn/bible-study-tools/bible-study-aids/sunset-sunset-gods-sabbath-rest/sunset-sunset-gods-4#:~:text="Therefore the law is holy,not change God's Sabbath day.
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I know this too but when I say things like this people get angry with me. Things like this is why I was banned, I have not been back to my church. Just for standing with the Bible. Christians and Jews gave their lives resisting the Roman Pagan Sunday worship because they wanted to keep the Sabbath. People don't understand the roman catholic church is pagan influenced.
The United Church of God is the offspring of one Herbert Armstrong.
UCG believes that people who do not know or really understand the truth of the Bible during their life
will be given time to learn after a "Second Resurrection" to a new physical life, living again during the Millennium
in God's Kingdom. If they still reject God's Holy Spirit and way of life, God will destroy them after the "Third Resurrection"
along with former believers who had also rejected God. (wiki)
Three resurrections?
They believe that certain foods such as pork and shellfish should not be eaten by Christians.
Not those same food laws again. A well worn path.
UCG teaches that members should give 10 percent of their income to the church.
That's standard doctrine in all sects.
UCG does not believe in the Trinity.
Standard cult doctrine and of course they have a problem with that.
So, for example, they don't worship holidays that started out as pagan, like Halloween, Christmas,
Valentine's Day, and New Year's Day.
Who worship's holidays? That's a new one worshiping holidays.
UCG believes that people who do not know or really understand the truth of the Bible during their life
will be given time to learn after a "Second Resurrection" to a new physical life, living again during the Millennium
in God's Kingdom. If they still reject God's Holy Spirit and way of life, God will destroy them after the "Third Resurrection"
along with former believers who had also rejected God. (wiki)
Three resurrections?
They believe that certain foods such as pork and shellfish should not be eaten by Christians.
Not those same food laws again. A well worn path.
UCG teaches that members should give 10 percent of their income to the church.
That's standard doctrine in all sects.
UCG does not believe in the Trinity.
Standard cult doctrine and of course they have a problem with that.
So, for example, they don't worship holidays that started out as pagan, like Halloween, Christmas,
Valentine's Day, and New Year's Day.
Who worship's holidays? That's a new one worshiping holidays.
You are following an old interpretation of the scripture that is incorrect.
Your not standing for the Bible.
Romans did not have a day off they worked seven days a week.
Not until Constantine in the fourth century did Rome get a day off to go to church.
So the Romans were not the ones who introduced church on Sunday.
The Jews rested on the sabbath and they did not go to church on Sunday.
So who started Sunday worship?
A sabbath rest day is not a church day.
No synagogue in the world has ever worshiped Jesus!
Your not standing for the Bible.
Romans did not have a day off they worked seven days a week.
Not until Constantine in the fourth century did Rome get a day off to go to church.
So the Romans were not the ones who introduced church on Sunday.
The Jews rested on the sabbath and they did not go to church on Sunday.
So who started Sunday worship?
A sabbath rest day is not a church day.
No synagogue in the world has ever worshiped Jesus!
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