On Donald Trump winning the 2024 election

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SaysWhat

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Should? Yes. Will it happen? No.
Will there be repentance? Absolutely.

For those who still have their God given, unadulterated DNA when the bottomless pit is opened, guaranteed they will be seeking the face of God in repentance. Though I strongly suggest no one wait that long, there will be a great deal of seeking and repenting going on.
Hmm, wow some strong words there.
 

blueluna5

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I don't understand the point. Unless you're a criminal on this forum everyone is obeying the law and paying taxes, etc. Doing what Jesus had said.

Proverbs 29:2 “When good people run things, everyone is glad, but when the ruler is bad, everyone groans.”

We've never done anything wrong. Biden kamala are terrible people and we have every right to groan about them.

On the other hand Trump won! I will always thank God for his answered prayers. God elected Trump in July when he was shot at. We elected him yesterday.
 

Publican

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cv5

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Bear with me - a little background information will be helpful here before I relate it to Trump.
This is for those who took such choices on choosing their candidates for this election that it led to outright hatred for those of your opposing candidate and their supporters.

Watchman Nee is a famous evangelist and martyr for Jesus Christ, at least known among Christians.
Nee started church meetings in China in 1922 and established churches during his 30 years of ministry.

When the Chinese Communist Party took control of China in the 1940s, Nee was persecuted and imprisoned for his faith and ministry and spent the last 20 years of his life in prison; after all, "religion is the opium of the people" according to communists.

Watchman Nee wrote many books during his ministry, including one called Spiritual Authority.
Nee starts off his book with Romans 13:1-7:
"Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the powers that be are ordained of God.
Therefore he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to themselves judgment.
For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil.
And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise from the same: for he is a minister of God to thee for good.
But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is a minister of God, an avenger for wrath to him that doeth evil.
Wherefore ye must needs be in subjection, not only because of the wrath, but also for conscience' sake.
For for this cause ye pay tribute also; for they are ministers of God's service, attending continually upon this very thing.
Render to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor."

Considering this was Nee's advice to the Chinese churches, even during the communist overthrow of China, turning citizens into peasant subjects, it's a wonder why the communists saw the same call for subjection to the higher powers - in this case, what they themselves held - and yet they still persecuted and killed a peaceful minister to the Chinese people.

Remember, the Jews during Jesus' ministry on Earth wanted to be rid of the Romans ruling over them and expected the Messiah to give them back their freedom.
But Jesus said the same thing - subject yourselves to the higher powers, pay their taxes and tributes, render unto Caesar even when you are treated poorly.

If Harris had won, the Word of God stays the same - follow the same rules whether you think this candidate of the other is not following God's laws, they still represent God's authority. Scary, huh?

May this nation follow 2 Chronicles 7:14 and realize it's been time for a long time for us to thank, praise, worship, repent, and discipline ourselves to become much more like our prime and perfect example, The Lord Jesus Christ, before we sing God Bless America" again.
"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
Aaaahhh look friend:

In the US and most Western forms of representative government, we the people are the HIGHER POWERS. We have the authority.

The governmental authority duly constituted SERVES US and only with our consent.

Romans 13 was written when the known world WAS UNDER THE OPRESSION OF A MILITARY DICTATORSHIP.

This is NOT the case today in the here and now.

CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT
 

Publican

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Hmm, wow some strong words there.
"If I were president you would be in jail." Now those are strong words.
Oh wait, he never did lock her up did he? And why would he lock someone up that he's been friends with for twenty years?

"I am the chosen one." Whew, strong words there too.

And then there's my all time favorite quote,

"And look, I guess in a certain way I’m the father of the vaccine because I was the one that pushed it. To get it done in less than nine months was a miracle."


The Father of the vaccine. Taking credit for the single greatest crime ever perpetrated upon humanity.

Yep, strong words there.
 

JTB

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It couldn't. Understanding why it came the 1st time goes a long way to figuring out if it will come again. Since what happened 1st century was the result of sanctions being implemented against Israel for their failure to keep the terms of the old covenant, and since we live under a covenant of grace whose only stipulation is belief, why would it?
Disbelief
 

JTB

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In the US and most Western forms of representative government, we the people are the HIGHER POWERS. We have the authority.
Or at least the high powers in authority encourage you to think that.
 

Cameron143

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Not simply disbelief. That's been true throughout the history of Israel. What was actually happening in the 1st century was the dawning of an eternal covenant ushered in by the blood of Christ while simultaneously a temporary covenant was coming to an end.
The old covenant came with stipulations and sanctions for not meeting those stipulations. This is the subject of both the book of Deuteronomy...where the covenant was initiated, and the book of Revelation...when the covenant was done away with and sanctions rendered.
 

Mem

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I watched a snippet of Trump's address declaring his election result... making reference to serving America "with every breath that is left in my body." ...and that just dissolved any shadow of doubt of his interest for its people that I may held on to.
 

Magenta

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I watched a snippet of Trump's address declaring his election result... making reference to serving America "with every breath that is left in my body." ...and that just dissolved any shadow of doubt of his interest for its people that I may held on to.
This compilation is from 2016 and even more hilarious in light of Donald's second win!


TRUMP CAN'T WIN COMPILATION
 

Gideon300

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It absolutely was not, to make America great again.

Before honor, humility.

America has not yet repented. And instead of national repentance, they chose one of the most arrogant men in the world to lead them through the tribulation.

Trump IS Gods judgment on America. God gave unrepentant America just what they asked for, an unrepentant man of sin to be their leader.

They can't say they were not warned.
What a choice. An arrogant man who owes 500 million dollars or a woke, progressive elitist. That two such candidates were running for president is an indictment on America. If you want unrestricted abortion, a continued flood of illegal immigrants, economic misery, you voted Harris.

Arrogant? Look at the people she chose to parade around as her supporters. Bruce Springsteen, Taylor Swift, George Clooney and other Hollywood elites. Plainly many Americans don't like being lectured by people who live in a privileged bubble.

Or you could have Trump. At least it is only for four years.
 

Publican

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What a choice. An arrogant man who owes 500 million dollars or a woke, progressive elitist. That two such candidates were running for president is an indictment on America. If you want unrestricted abortion, a continued flood of illegal immigrants, economic misery, you voted Harris.

Arrogant? Look at the people she chose to parade around as her supporters. Bruce Springsteen, Taylor Swift, George Clooney and other Hollywood elites. Plainly many Americans don't like being lectured by people who live in a privileged bubble.

Or you could have Trump. At least it is only for four years.
My ex was a big Trump supporter.
I never bought the hype, been studying this system far too long to get suckered in by someone like Trump. But obviously, I was relieved when he beat the Hilldabeast. I told her at that time that God had blessed us with four to eight more years to prepare for what's coming.
And that's just what I've been doing. I fear that many of our friends here have absolutely no clue what's coming next.

For when they shall say, peace and safety, sudden destruction cometh upon them.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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This compilation is from 2016 and even more hilarious in light of Donald's second win!


TRUMP CAN'T WIN COMPILATION

Thank you so much for posting this! I had this in my favorites list, but when I bought a new computer, I didn't export any bookmarks to the new one. I'm going to go look around YouTube and see if I can find some more of these old favorites


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daisyseesthesun

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Thank you so much for posting this! I had this in my favorites list, but when I bought a new computer, I didn't export any bookmarks to the new one. I'm going to go look around YouTube and see if I can find some more of these old favorites


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