The hatred of Jews

[Magenta]

I stated "perhaps" it was not a statement of fact.
You only give yourself leeway in terms of how something should be read, everyone else is a liar or a hypocrite.
smh

Hypocrites and liars are hypocrites and liars, this is true and does not
equally apply to everyone no matter how badly you wish to slander me.

People blatantly lie and that is a fact. Like your flat earth friend repeatedly saying
Canada is a communist country. That is a lie he likes to tell. Do you support such lies?

So odd you would speak against calling people out on their lies when you do it so often.

But then you turn around and lie yourself to say such things as you are not invested.

You are. You are invested.

 

[cv5]

I figure maybe they aren't seeing it, having trouble with their eyes. Maybe the large font will help.

Zech.
“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.


John
And again another Scripture says, “They will look on him whom they have pierced.”

Amen.

Luke 13, Romans 11, Daniel 9 all concatenate flawlessly. Impeccably.
Less than a couple of dozen verses. All of which are MORE than sufficient to prove beyond any doubt that Israel the nation has a future and a calling to service that will usher in the millennial reign.

Of course there are literally THOUSANDS of other passages that say exactly the same thing.

What is your answer to that @HeIsHere @Moses_Young ?
More conspiracy theories?

What is most disturbing is that on the one hand these two deny that there are any Jews left on the earth.
And on the other hand, if there is a remnant who slipped thru the cracks of doom, they are the worst of the bad guys and the world needs to finish them off once and for all.

I'm sure Satan himself shares a similar sentiment. Because of course wiping out the Jews would derail end time prophecy and the SC and millennial reign. And would likewise prevent Satan and his host from being imprisoned in the abyss for 1000 years.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

You really have no idea.

The Balfour Declaration, the Ottoman Empire, etc., etc., Plan Delat, the dialogues, treaties are all historical facts on paper documented and archived.

Sure, League of Nations, right, I've read history. I just don't get how you have it backwards.

 

[cv5]

Hypocrites and liars are hypocrites and liars, this is true and does not
equally apply to everyone no matter how badly you wish to slander me.

People blatantly lie and that is a fact. Like your flat earth friend repeatedly saying
Canada is a communist country. That is a lie he likes to tell. Do you support such lies?

Canada is presently being led by the "progressive left" parties.
And prog left is just a little right of extreme left.

Fortunately, these prog leftists are getting kicked to the curb in embarrassing fashion, and their dear leader is trying desperately to cling on to power.

BTW......Liberals are undoubtedly the most corrupt regime in all of Canadian history. Vastly corrupt. Endless scandals involving massive money laundering schemes. Endless illegal activities including ILLEGALY invoking the Emergencies Act. This was proven in court and a judgment was rendered.

 

[cv5]

You really have no idea.

The Balfour Declaration, the Ottoman Empire, etc., etc., Plan Delat, the dialogues, treaties are all historical facts on paper documented and archived.

It is really quite sad the denial, even the Jews of the time who were not in favor of the creation of a homeland prior to the arrival of the Messiah understood what was happening.

Aaahhhh yea. God is working don't you know.
Something along these lines. Right?

[Jer 18:6 KJV]
O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay [is] in the potter's hand, so [are] ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.

[Jer 18:7 KJV]
[At what] instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy [it];

[Jer 18:8 KJV]
If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

[Jer 18:9 KJV]
And [at what] instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant [it];

 

[Magenta]

I should not wonder that you contradict yourself when I have seen evidence of it on numerous
occasions concerning different issues. Issues which you like to pretend you present a united
front on. Guess what? You don't. You contradict yourself and you hate this fact being pointed
out to you. No wonder you "ignore" me desiring me to ignore you in return. Guess again.

 

[Kroogz]

Here you go buddy. You have no answer. You just don't get it. Too bad so sad.
And believe it......there are THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of passages that prove what I say beyond the slightest shadow of a doubt.
Except evidently in your darkened mind.

So tell us again how the 70th week has ALREADY BEEN FULFILLED on behalf of the children of Israel for their good, TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS.
You know.....the same as the 69th week, where Jesus, healed, taught, blessed and SAVED MANY ISRAELITES. Thousands and thousands of Israelites. And of course untold numbers of gentiles as well.

But you do not see the 70th week this way. On the contrary, you believe that the 70th week has been fulfilled......to utterly annihilate the Jews once and for all. To wipe them out. To destroy them root and branch.

Yet.....here they are in the land today! What a shock.

Dan 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

And this would be the status Of the Jews today if it was all fulfilled.........Also, if it was fulfilled in 70ad, they didn't get much protection from the Lord.
Zech 12~~8On that day the Lord will protect the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and the one who is feeble among them on that day will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the angel of the Lord before them. 9And on that day I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and of pleading, so that they will look at Me whom they pierced; and they will mourn for Him, like one mourning for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.

 

[Magenta]

John 12:38b-40 “Lord, who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord
been revealed?” For this reason they were unable to believe. For again, Isaiah says: “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so that they cannot see with their eyes, and understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.”
And you are still ignoring this verse, too. I know why concerning that, also.

 

[cv5]

You really have no idea.

The Balfour Declaration, the Ottoman Empire, etc., etc., Plan Delat, the dialogues, treaties are all historical facts on paper documented and archived.

It is really quite sad the denial, even the Jews of the time who were not in favor of the creation of a homeland prior to the arrival of the Messiah understood what was happening.

@Moses_Young needs an attitude adjustment. Along these lines. You too.

[Rom 9:1 KJV]
I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

[Rom 9:2 KJV]
That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

[Rom 9:3 KJV]
For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

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And don't let this happen to you....

[Mat 18:32 KJV]
Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

[Mat 18:33 KJV]
Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

[Mat 18:34 KJV]
And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

[Mat 18:35 KJV]
So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

 

[TabinRivCA]

You really have no idea.

The Balfour Declaration, the Ottoman Empire, etc., etc., Plan Delat, the dialogues, treaties are all historical facts on paper documented and archived.

It is really quite sad the denial, even the Jews of the time who were not in favor of the creation of a homeland prior to the arrival of the Messiah understood what was happening.

'Jews of the time were not in favor of the creation of a homeland prior to the Messiah'???
The ones on film were elated and celebrated this Declaration. Which Jews or fake Jews are you talking about?

 

[GaryA]

Israel the nation has a future and a calling to service that will usher in the millennial reign.

Israel as a nation does have a future. But, you have this backwards - it is the Second Coming of Christ and His millennial reign that will usher in [biblical] Israel as a nation.

And on the other hand, if there is a remnant who slipped thru the cracks of doom, they are the worst of the bad guys and the world needs to finish them off once and for all.

You seem to have a messed-up view of historical events - particularly, in this case, concerning the events circa 70 A.D.

 

[cv5]

Israel as a nation does have a future. But, you have this backwards - it is the Second Coming of Christ and His millennial reign that will usher in [biblical] Israel as a nation.

But this only happens when Israel repents of their sin of unbelief, recognizes their Savior, then asks Jesus to deliver them.

I have already pointed out that 70 AD has nothing whatsoever to do with Daniel's 70th week.
Absolutely zero. Nobody in their right mind thinks differently.

 

[Romans34]

I have already pointed out that 70 AD has nothing whatsoever to do with Daniel's 70th week.

This becomes obvious to anyone who realizes that the ministry of jesus Christ was during the first half of Daniel's 70th week, which week was fulfilled almost 37 years before 70 AD.

 

[cv5]

This becomes obvious to anyone who realizes that the ministry of jesus Christ was during the first half of Daniel's 70th week, which week was fulfilled almost 37 years before 70 AD.

Your math skills are pathetic. But your exegetical acumen is far worse.

 

[TabinRivCA]

Your math skills are pathetic. But your exegetical acumen is far worse.

Can you get a point across w/o trying to demean someone. Honestly how is this Christ-like? (said w/bro love)

 

[GaryA]

I have already pointed out that 70 AD has nothing whatsoever to do with Daniel's 70th week.
Absolutely zero. Nobody in their right mind thinks differently.

I totally agree - I have never said any different - the only thing common between them is the number '70' - in my reckoning, Daniel's 70th week ended in 34 A.D. - well before 70 A.D.

There is a "mere mention" of the events of circa 70 A.D. in Daniel 9:26 - but, that is about all there is in connection between the two.

But - correct - there is no direct association or connection between Daniel's 70th week and 70 A.D.

 

[cv5]

Can you get a point across w/o trying to demean someone. Honestly how is this Christ-like? (said w/bro love)

Grave heresies are not to be treated lightly.
BTW......this idea that many views are equally true is nonsense.
On the contrary in fact ONLY ONE view is correct. This of course is obvious.

 

[cv5]

I totally agree - I have never said any different - the only thing common between them is the number '70' - in my reckoning, Daniel's 70th week ended in 34 A.D. - well before 70 A.D.

Your reckoning is wrong. And you offer no proof either.

Don't bother trying. It would be a waste of your time.

 

[GaryA]

Do you all hear me now???!!!!

We hear you just fine - we just think you are not hearing us...

 

[GaryA]

God promised Abraham a land for His people. And He gave it irrevocably. None of you have yet gotten off step one. He is Here you're not mocking and red x ing my words. Everlasting means temporary?! Unconditional, irrevocable, these are not my words, nor Darby, nor Calvinism, or any other ism. That is the covenant, the Abrahamic covenant that God made. You cannot get past "everlasting, unconditional, irrevocable". The Bible is plain how the covenant was made, God said more than once that it was everlasting. Now I know you consider yourself smarter than the whole of everyone here. And you may well be, congrats. But even you can't make an everlasting covenant temporary or change the people it was made to. You're not mocking me, as much fun as you seem to get out of it, you need to take it up with God. You, Mo, Yah, have not gotten past step one. Everlasting, spoken by God, means just that. You can't change it. Period.

Let me suggest that "step one" is realizing that - just because God made a land promise - does not mean that He [also] made a guarantee that they would always be in the land - every moment - never to leave it - forever.

How many times in history since God made that promise have the Jews been "exiled" from that land? You know - taken captive and carried off to the land of other nations, etc.

Has there not been a time in history when no Jews were in the land?

Now - just think about that for a while - and, hopefully you will realize that you are making an enormous and erroneous assumption with regard to what exactly it was that God promised - particularly with regard to the 'when' aspect of it.

They cannot have the blessing of the promise until Christ returns. Do you understand what I am saying?

Yes - there are Jews in the land today. But, even if there was not a single Jew in the land today - the promise of God is still good - He has not broken it - because, the "center core focal point" of that promise has a 'when' aspect - and, that 'when' is during the Millennium - not today.

It seems that you keep "screaming" that it has been suggested that God has broken His promise - HE HAS NOT - you are "missing" something.

In essence, God only promised that they would eventually be in the land in an "everlasting" state of peace...

Whether or not there are any Jews in the land at any particular point in time - at any point in time before the Second Coming of Christ - has no effect whatsoever on the promise of God.

Whether the "Jews" in the modern day "state" of Israel are real Jews, fake Jews, or whatever else - has no effect whatsoever on the promise of God.

At least some of the things you have been spouting are [totally] irrelevant with regard to the suggested idea of the thread topic. But then - so is a lot of the rest of this [so-called] discussion.

As far as I am personally concerned - an innocent killed is wrong - I don't care who it is or who did it. What remains is to learn and understand what exactly has really happened. Whether it be Israel, Hamas, or whoever - if they have done wrong - then, they are wrong - period. And, no two or three or four wrongs make a right. If everyone is wrong - well - then, everyone is wrong. Whatever the thing - let it be discerned with wisdom - and, let no assumptions be made - examine the real facts, whatever they are - and, judge accordingly.

Let me suggest that you need to get to the point where you realize that "everlasting, unconditional, irrevocable" may have been the promise of God - but, it has never been the promise of Satan.