Trump desecrates Flag

[Susanna]

I value peace of mind as much as the next guy.
But I value my 1st Amendment rights much MUCH more.
And without one, you will never have the other.

Being able to afford groceries and rent.....that would help too.

When did the Constitution apply to Canada?

 

[ZNP]

You know as well as I do if this were Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. Doing this to a flag, right wingers would be having a collective poopy fit yelling.... SEE I TOLD YOU THEY HATE AMERICA!

Yes, that is why I agreed with Post 44

 

[cv5]

I’d say that is a lame excuse for executing behavior that is contrary to common courtesy.

Sorry. I was somewhat in distress at hearing that Trump suffered yet another assassination attempt.
It must have affected my otherwise sterling conduct.

Hope you felt the same way about Trump. At least a little bit.
He is another of God's humankind creation after all.

 

[HeIsHere]

Sorry. I was somewhat in distress at hearing that Trump suffered yet another assassination attempt.
It must have affected my otherwise sterling conduct.

Hope you felt the same way about Trump. At least a little bit.
He is another of God's humankind creation after all.

People are dying every single minute of the day, Trump is another human being, neither above nor below anyone else in value.

 

[ZNP]

Sorry. I was somewhat in distress at hearing that Trump suffered yet another assassination attempt.

So you heard it interrupted the game right when he had a birdie putt. Are you also a golfer?

 

[cv5]

When did the Constitution apply to Canada?

I thought immigrants were protected by the Constitution?
Did I miss something Chief?

 

[Susanna]

Sorry. I was somewhat in distress at hearing that Trump suffered yet another assassination attempt.
It must have affected my otherwise sterling conduct.

Hope you felt the same way about Trump. At least a little bit.
He is another of God's humankind creation after all.

Oh no, you were conducting yourself precisely as you always do so the assassination attempt didn’t sway your mind.

 

[Susanna]

I thought immigrants were protected by the Constitution?
Did I miss something Chief?

So you have come here now? LOL

 

[cv5]

People are dying every single minute of the day, Trump is another human being, neither above nor below anyone else in value.

You could argue that attempted murder is among the most egregious forms of dehumanizing behavior.
Don't you think?

 

[HeIsHere]

You could argue that attempted murder is among the most egregious forms of dehumanizing behavior.
Don't you think?

Then we should grieve equally for all those murdered or those who have survived a murder attempt, his life is not more valuable.

 

[ZNP]

You could argue that attempted murder is among the most egregious forms of dehumanizing behavior.
Don't you think?

especially when you use dehumanizing terms like abortion. They were simply trying to abort his campaign.

 

[Cameron143]

People are dying every single minute of the day, Trump is another human being, neither above nor below anyone else in value.

People dying every day is normal. People being assassinated every day isn't. On the bright side, Trump has survived more assassination attempts than interviews Harris has given.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I understand, however I see you doing the same thing on this forum

Sure, I express my opinion; but you won't see me getting into long, pointless discussions with Trump disciples. I learned a long time ago that's a total waste of time. If you want to, that's your business.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I'm not making that argument at all and to say such is a straw man of my actual beliefs.
I made this post before the assassination attempt.

Yes. I did see you say that, and I understand that. It happened so fast, I didn't hear about it till I talked to my mother later in the day.

I have a lot to say about the assassination attempt as I'm sure others here would as well I've been attempting to direct it towards other threads as to not to derail this one.

Ok. I will go and check those out too.

The right has been fuming at the seems over kamala's laughter, smiles, dancin, word salad and her being a commie which no one seems to be able to explain.

I see her more along the line of a socialist, but as the saying goes, socialism is just communism with the gloves off.

In light of this my question is simple. If Kamala did the same thing we all should be able to agree that the conservative media would attack it like a rabbit dog. It's important for us to talk about this instead of pivoting. I will talk about the garbage on the left openly and honestly however I will hold the feet to the fire of the the right for them to do the same thing.

I will have to say here that I was not born here. Canada we respect our flag but I'm not sure we have as many rules about it as Americans do. Canucks, let me know. So I'm going to ask a question here instead. I have a really nice hand stitched American flag. Say I'm going to a rally or somewhere where a current or past president is at and I have my flag. I get close enough for a president to sign it, that is what you would consider desecrating the flag? I went to a minor rally and the flag was spread out on the ground, and I had thought that was considered a no, no.

And yes what whataboutism is slang for pivoting. Pivoting in political discussions is a real tactic and something I will not tolerate. You can go and do that to someone else.

Alright, but now we do know about the assassination. And this is a serious issue. I think Mark Levin, one of the few I trust on any news program, was pretty white hot angry last night. The flag isn't going to change anyone's mind on how they vote. So I don't see how arguing about it benefits anything. This assassination attempt affects every single person in this country.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

start another thread, don't hijack this one.

How is calling for jail sentences for those that desecrate the flag and then desecrating the flag yourself a nothingBurger?


It's indicative of his character and it needs to be highlighted that this is not the mark of a good leader. We do not want someone in office who has standards he wants everyone else to follow except for himself.

I shouldn't even have to make this point. It should be making itself loud and clear. That's my point is that before Trump if someone did this type of stuff they wouldn't even be taken seriously after that.

His supporters are so blinded by fear of the other that they can't see the true wolf in the hen house.

Yeah, again, not American born. But if someone tells me signing the flag is the same as burning it, walking on it or other disrespect, I don't think so. The intent of both is entirely different. I wouldn't care which side did it. If I saw Harris sign a flag I would assume someone asked her to sign a flag they had. Now if I saw Harris burn or walk on a flag, then I'd have something to say. But signing it? IDK

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Then we should grieve equally for all those murdered or those who have survived a murder attempt, his life is not more valuable.

The lives of all heads of state are important. That's why they have people that follow them around with guns. I don't recall a team around me the last time I bought my grapes at Walmart.

 

[cv5]

Then we should grieve equally for all those murdered or those who have survived a murder attempt, his life is not more valuable.

Trump has suffered more dehumanizing brutality in terms of political attacks (all of it preconceived, conspiratorial, intentional, illegal, fraudulent, monstrous, life threatening) than any political figure IN ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY!

Nothing and nobody else compares. Not even remotely close.

THAT is how far America has fallen.
THAT is how high the stakes are.

 

[Kroogz]

Earlier this year Trump called for jail sentences for people who desecrate the American flag.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...p-urges-jail-sentence-burning-flags-protests/

However he was seen in a video violating US flag code by signing the American flag with a permanent marker. View attachment 267376

That flag was retired and will be on display. They were honored to have one of the greatest presidents sign it.

 

[Kroogz]

Trump has suffered more dehumanizing brutality in terms of political attacks (all of it preconceived, conspiratorial, intentional, illegal, fraudulent, monstrous, life threatening) than any political figure IN ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY!

Nothing and nobody else compares. Not even remotely close.

THAT is how far America has fallen.
THAT is how high the stakes are.

Trump is one in a million or billion? Anybody else would have folded by now. He would have made a great navy Seal. Has balls of steel.

 

[HeIsHere]

Probably the most narcissistic thing he has done yet.

Didn't even serve his country.
All about him, at least the protestor has somebody else in mind.