Loss of salvation???

[Magenta]

You alright?

What are we talkin'? .. Perhaps you missed the context of that gif?

But... thank you for your concern...

 

[Scribe]

What are we talkin'? .. Perhaps you missed the context of that gif?

But... thank you for your concern...

LOL. Yes, Just kidding. I haven't been here in a while. I got a message from Robo about a new CC App coming to Android on Labor Day.

 

[paulie24]

The wind does Not respect the fool. Those with pridefulness in heart and mouth, haughty eyes, lusts after things that don't last or more so illegal here on Earth.. and those who still reject Jesus/Yeshua as the Son of Man who does Save you if you call upon him do so: they will all be swept aside like dead leaves before an ANGRY Wind! Fear the Lord, that brings forth wisdom. Then again Faith over Fear conqueres!

 

[Magenta]

LOL. Yes, Just kidding. I haven't been here in a while. I got a message from Robo about a new CC App coming to Android on Labor Day.

Yeah, me too (about the chat app). I am not keen on chat. I tried it a few years ago for a couple of weeks and that was enough for me!

 

[Scribe]

Yeah, me too (about the chat app). I am not keen on chat. I tried it a few years ago for a couple of weeks and that was enough for me!

OK. I hope it is successful. I am looking forward to seeing what he has come up with.

 

[homwardbound]

God told him, "because you listened to the voice of your wife"

clearly they spoke after she ate.

at the time of that conversation:

she had sinned. she was separated from the presence of God, and he had not sinned, and was not separated from His presence.
she had been deceived, and he had not, and was not.
she had eaten poison
he had not.

what do you think she said to him?

It doesn’t say, whatever she might have said. We only get cliff notes
‘Adam ate too,right when she did. Right after seeing her not die right away, as thought she would die, .she did not, he saw her and then in doubt “unbelief” ate also .then he saw truth once ate also. grabbed her and ran afraid< as they covered up their nakedness with fig leaves. expecting God to kill them as soon as God knew. Yet Mercy came from God with a curse to find out the whole truth. We are not the most high God, me, at least I need God to lead, not me or any other human being, anyone else? Phil 3
As Jesus cursed the fig tree when here on earth amazing correlation. To the first free choice in unbelief by Adam the first
the return is belief to God in Son is risen all sin forgiven by God and Son on that cross for us to cross over in willing for Gods lead through us< even if we die, lose our homes,, starve, to see what being given new life is, God back in the lead Where we can rest medicine. Die to self daily willingly between God and you in risen Son Jesus for you too> you will be new and not accepted by people in general. Yet definitely accepted by God knowing this humbly in thanksgiving and praise.
‘the entire Old Testament is the testimony of us as human as not perfect, neither the first chosen. That is why Son came here to take our deserved death to give us new life in his resurrected life. Which Father decides who gets it and who does not. How? Why?
‘Motive is how, reread James, we ask we do not get,. could it be we will misuse it?
be willing to God to not live to live. Ask willingly accepting whatever the answer might be, that probably wont be what you want. Not seeing, not getting might be for your best

 

[homwardbound]

no mere man can by their death make atonement for the sins of the world.
if this were the case the cross is human sacrifice, like to Molech, which is detestable. you might as well say Christianity is Baal worship.

‘that is proven in the first (old) Testament. Read Hebrews 10 God was not satisfied with the people. So Son was sent the perfect one, not born of man< woman yes. To satisfy Father for us, as if none of us ever sinned. Col. 1:21-23. Amazing grace
‘people did atonement over and over year after year, and no one could ever be perfect.
Jesus takeaway, took away sin all the nasty nines and dirty dozen. First. Before any new life could ever get given.
John 1:29 and that is done in Son. John 19:30 for new life to get given us from Father once anyone believes God in truth. Having no other motive in mind but to know this love of God, that has not ever quit< from day one in the first Adam
that is who I want to be friends with, anyone else?

 

[homwardbound]

help!

And so God fulfilled that call in son Jesus for us all, leaving, left to believe God without any doubt. Not that we do not get dealt doubts. We do
reread Job, job would not deny God. And I bet got temptation thoughts, yet would not deny God. I think it best to continue in any and adversities too, and not deny God either.
God sincerely loves us all. Free choice to me proves this truth, otherwise I would be a puppet< no thank you
genesis 3:16, might be 15 fulfilled. As said to the serpent, you will bruise his heel, but he will crush your head. Done inrisen Son
the Help is answered in God for us, anything,or anyone against God’s kids will not win in the long haul everas you already know these things also

 

[Genez]

No,

but His humanity is not at the expense of His deity.

Jesus Christ is never not God.
He is always God.

When your own translation of the Bible comes out?

I'd like to see the chapter and verse for that one.

In the mean while?

Luke 2:52​

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And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." ​

God does NOT grow in wisdom!
And, God does not grow in favor with God!

Stop it!

 

[Genez]

i believe fully in the hypostatic union.

No you don't. He is both fully man and fully God in union.

 

[posthuman]

Adam ate too,right when she did. Right after seeing her not die right away, as thought she would die, .she did not, he saw her and then in doubt “unbelief” ate also .then he saw truth once ate also. grabbed her and ran afraid

this cannot be the case.
this narrative is contrary to scripture,
you've got Adam deceived thinking God had lied and Satan had told the truth.

1 Timothy 2:14​

Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. ​

 

[posthuman]

‘that is proven in the first (old) Testament. Read Hebrews 10 God was not satisfied with the people. So Son was sent the perfect one, not born of man< woman yes. To satisfy Father for us, as if none of us ever sinned. Col. 1:21-23. Amazing grace
‘people did atonement over and over year after year, and no one could ever be perfect.
Jesus takeaway, took away sin all the nasty nines and dirty dozen. First. Before any new life could ever get given.
John 1:29 and that is done in Son. John 19:30 for new life to get given us from Father once anyone believes God in truth. Having no other motive in mind but to know this love of God, that has not ever quit< from day one in the first Adam
that is who I want to be friends with, anyone else?

it is God, not man, Who says "I will take away iniquity" - and it is God Who does it

Zechariah 3:9​

For behold, the stone That I have laid before Joshua: Upon the stone [are] seven eyes. Behold, I will engrave its inscription,' Says the LORD of hosts, ' And I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.​

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He must be man to stand in our place as priest,
and He must be God to be our propitiation.

He offers Himself and receives Himself

 

[posthuman]

No you don't. He is both fully man and fully God in union.

He does not cease to be fully God by being fully man.

 

[posthuman]

I'd like to see the chapter and verse for that one.

John 8:58​

before Abraham was, I AM​

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Revelation 1:17 ​

I AM the First and the Last​

 

[Genez]

He does not cease to be fully God by being fully man.

Philippians 2:6-8 says you have something more to learn....



Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God
a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant,
being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he
humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death
on a cross."
Philippians 2:6-8

 

[posthuman]

Philippians 2:6-8 says you have something more to learn....



Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God
a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant,
being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he
humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death
on a cross."
Philippians 2:6-8

this doesn't say He ceased being God.

it says He 'made Himself of no reputation' - setting aside His glory.

the context (see verse 5 you omitted) is that we should have the same mind. does that mean you are commanded to cease to be human?

no.
it does not.

my apologies for presuming you knew what kenosis is. but i am quite happy to discuss it.

we are told to be meek, not to delete the essence of our being.

 

[posthuman]

John 8:58​

before Abraham was, I AM​

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Revelation 1:17 ​

I AM the First and the Last​

@Genez

how many witnesses do you want to see?

 

[Genez]

John 8:58​

before Abraham was, I AM​

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Revelation 1:17 ​

I AM the First and the Last​

He was always Deity and Soul in union.
Before Abraham His soul was with God.

The Incarnation only gave his eternal soul a body!

Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said,
“Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired,
but a body have you prepared for me. Hebrews 10:5

Whom ever "me" was?
That body was prepared for him.

The Soul of Jesus in union with Deity was mentioned in the OT.
The combination of Soul and Deity? = the Lord God of Israel.

"God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.” - John 4:24.​

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Read that, please? God is not soul. ... Jesus said that God is spirit.

Now, for the Soul of God...

'You will eat the old supply and clear out the old because of the new. ​

Moreover, I will make My dwelling among you, and My soul will not reject you.'​

I will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people." Lev 26:10-12​

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And they began to remove the foreign gods from their midst and to serve Jehovah, ​

so that his soul became impatient because of the trouble of Israel. Jdges 10:16​

Jehovah himself examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one, and anyone ​

loving violence his soul certainly hates." Ps 11:5​

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God is not soul. God is spirit. The OT union of soul and Deity was the state of being for the pre-incarnate Lord.
For the human body for the Lord God of Israel's soul came later.

 

[posthuman]

No you don't. He is both fully man and fully God in union.

if you don't believe He is at all times fully God, i rather think you are the one who does not believe in the orthodox doctrine of the hypostatic union...

 

[Genez]

this doesn't say He ceased being God.

it says He 'made Himself of no reputation' - setting aside His glory.

the context (see verse 5 you omitted) is that we should have the same mind. does that mean you are commanded to cease to be human?

no.
it does not.

my apologies for presuming you knew what kenosis is. but i am quite happy to discuss it.

we are told to be meek, not to delete the essence of our being.

Why do think Satan tempted Jesus to turn the stones into bread?
To get Jesus to stop being as a man, as to disqualify Jesus from dying as a man in our place!