Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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JayBird said:
I think he's trolling you by forcing you to defend the desecration of soldiers' graves and now by being pro-choice.

Trump supporters have already had to surrender any authority to lecture about sexual immorality or the rule of law, and now it'll be interesting to see if they're willing to give up their pro-life views.
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Oh no no no he is trolling you hard and lives rent free in your head because he doesn't want to comply with the language you want to speak.
America is a free country so he and us can live as we wish, right?
 
Eli1 said:
Start by acknowledging that a man in a dress is not a woman. That would be sanity.
Until then i will take a nap and see how the episodes go in-between.
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See this is what I find sad, everyone has to defend everything of their team, it did not used to be this way.

In the past one did hear, "yes I disagree with that part of what my party stands for"
It is not possible to concede any ground anymore because the immediate response is "Well that makes my party better than yours."

And while maybe one has conceded the other side does not and so one learns to learns to hold their ground on all issues.

Whatever we think about group and identities, marginalized or not it only gives the party a rallying point you think they have altruistic motives or they really care, doubtful.
It is just another manipulation tactic.
 
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cv5 said:
Look.....that incident is hardly a blip on the radar. Insignificant.

WW3 and destruction of the 1st Amendment and BofR?
The cancelling and jailing and assassinating presidential candidates?

Now that is the biggest of big deals.
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Look at Trumps biggest donor, I see WWW III on the horizon, he will do as he is told.
 
HeIsHere said:
Look at Trumps biggest donor, I see WWW III on the horizon, he will do as he is told.
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Maybe. But he is still our best bet. And only bet frankly.
And start thinking in term of team. He has some anti-war voices that are valueable.

So rots of ruck and happy landings.
 
HeIsHere said:
See this is what I find sad, everyone has to defend everything of their team, it did not used to be this way.

In the past one did hear, "yes I disagree with that part of what my party stands for"
It is not possible to concede any ground anymore because the immediate response is "Well that makes my party better than yours."

And while maybe one has conceded the other side does not and so one learns to learns to hold their ground on all issues.

Whatever we think about group and identities, marginalized or not it only gives the party a rallying point you think they have altruistic motives or they really care, doubtful.
It is just another manipulation tactic.
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But that's how things have always been in history haven't they? Both sides speak loud and both sides have blocked their ears.
There is no decorum when one side ups the ante and never apologizes. Everyone just doubles down.
 
cv5 said:
So what is so bad with Trump ending these $$$wars$$$ (including civil wars) that are bankrupting the nation?
Cuz there is no doubt whatsoever that the present regime is going to land us in WW3. Thats the plan and everyone knows it.

And ONLY Trump/RFK/Tulsi want them to end. In other words, they are the Anti-Neo-Con party. Same goes for the freedom caucus group.

Thats all we got lady. Thems the choices.
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I wish this was true, I had hope but they are all three quite hawkish now, so I am doubtful.
 
cv5 said:
@EndWokeness

Manhattan Project (1942-1945): $22 billion [adjusted for inflation]
Apollo Space Project (1960-1973): $257 billion [adjusted for inflation]
Expenses paid for illegal migrants: $150 billion in a single year [2023]
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I get it, nuking them would be the cheapest option, sending them to space the most expensive. So I guess you are saying we have chosen the middle road, which makes sense.
 
JayBird said:
In America, people have the freedom and liberty to live as they wish, and in the vast majority of cases it's really not anyone else's business.
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Oh, so you are saying I have the freedom to ignore their "pronouns" and it is not anyone's business if I refuse to kowtow to the woke mob.
 
Eli1 said:
But that's how things have always been in history haven't they? Both sides speak loud and both sides have blocked their ears.
There is no decorum when one side ups the ante and never apologizes. Everyone just doubles down.
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I think the parties did work together to get things done in the past but it has grown steadily worse over time.
I remember hearing a lot about bi-partisan efforts... not so much anymore,
 
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cv5 said:
Links?
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Kim Iverson did a segment on they have changed their positions.

People ask for links as a way to confirm their own bias, what is the point.

Like I said look who donates and who advises that is the real power.
 
HeIsHere said:
I think the parties did work together to get things done in the past but it has grown steadily worse over time.
I remember hearing a lot about bi-partisan efforts... not so much anymore,
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If you have links proving hawkishness....post them.

As you can see, I am posting HUNDREDS of links week after week.
 
HeIsHere said:
Kim Iverson did a segment on they have changed their positions.

People ask for links as a way to confirm their own bias, what is the point.

Like I said look who donates and who advises that is the real power.
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Great. I hope Trump takes the money and then tells them to pound sand.
And Trump is pretty much unbribable.....with money. Power? Who knows for sure. But there is not much more power to obtain after you get the presidency.

But we will see.
 
JayBird said:
The US Army has issued a statement condemning the Trump campaign and standing up for the employee who was shoved to the ground by Trump's staff.

https://www.military.com/daily-news...e-being-unfairly-attacked-trump-campaign.html

The Army is defending an Arlington National Cemetery employee whom it says has been "unfairly attacked" in the wake of a confrontation with campaign staffers during former President Donald Trump's visit to the cemetery earlier this week.​
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In a relatively strong statement for a military service, the Army said Thursday that the employee "acted with professionalism" when she sought to remind the campaign about federal laws and policies banning political activities on cemetery grounds.​
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"An ANC employee who attempted to ensure adherence to these rules was abruptly pushed aside," the Army said in its statement, using an acronym for the military cemetery.​
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"This incident was unfortunate, and it is also unfortunate that the ANC employee and her professionalism has been unfairly attacked," the statement added. "ANC is a national shrine to the honored dead of the armed forces, and its dedicated staff will continue to ensure public ceremonies are conducted with the dignity and respect the nation's fallen deserve."​

As the article notes, Trump's campaign was told about the laws beforehand.

But ahead of the visit, Trump campaign staff was given a document detailing laws and regulations they needed to follow while there that "prohibit political campaign or election-related activities," according to a copy of the document obtained by Military.com.​
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"Photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support, of a partisan political candidate's campaign are NOT permitted on the ANC installation," the document says.​
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Photos and video of the visit have since been used on Trump's TikTok account, his campaign co-chair's X account, and a campaign fundraising email from Utah's governor, among other political uses.​
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... the Trump campaign did not directly answer. Instead, it sent Military.com a social media post from a conservative commentator about President Joe Biden's use of a cemetery photo in a 2020 campaign ad.
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It appears that's what people on here are doing... whataboutism. If it's true Joe Biden did the same thing in 2020, how does this make it legal for Trump to do it? Why can't we attack both parties for doing this?

Thank you for making your argument that it's illegal and unjustified.
 
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