A critical look at Harris

[JayBird]

Reading is hard. For you.

If all you have are empty claims and personal comments, I'll just thank you for your time.

 

[NightTwister]

If all you have are empty claims and personal comments, I'll just thank you for your time.

You can't read the comment above mine that I quoted. That's your problem, not mine. That's neither empty nor personal.

 

[NightTwister]

If all you have are empty claims and personal comments, I'll just thank you for your time.

You seem to have no problem with personal attacks against others (e.g. Q-anon).

 

[Cameron143]

I simply responded to NTs claim that the Dems oppose policies that have been shown to reduce the number of abortions. That's clearly not true.

The idea that they want fewer abortions is also false.

More interested in, since this thread is about Harris, what she has done in the last 4 years that has helped Americans, and what she would do as President to do the same. Care to share?

 

[JayBird]

The idea that they want fewer abortions is also false.

Citation?

More interested in, since this thread is about Harris, what she has done in the last 4 years that has helped Americans, and what she would do as President to do the same. Care to share?

Again, I'm not interested in stumping for Harris. My primary concerns are keeping Trump from being reelected, getting the Republican Party back to reality, and identifying misinformation.

 

[Mem]

The idea that they want fewer abortions is also false.

More interested in, since this thread is about Harris, what she has done in the last 4 years that has helped Americans, and what she would do as President to do the same. Care to share?

Doesn't being cute and giggly count for anything?

 

[NightTwister]

Doesn't being cute and giggly count for anything?

Don't forget "joy" and "vibes."

 

[Mem]

Don't forget "joy" and "vibes."

Oh yes! The appeal to emotion. OOo, hOw intoxicating! teehheeheehaaahaaaa!!

 

[Cameron143]

Citation?


Again, I'm not interested in stumping for Harris. My primary concerns are keeping Trump from being reelected, getting the Republican Party back to reality, and identifying misinformation.

You just admitted that the Democrat party is giving free abortions at their convention, but you don't accept that as evidence that they aren't for fewer abortions? I find that odd.
To keep Trump from being elected means that Harris would be elected. By default, knowing this is what would happen, you are supporting Harris. Since voting for Harris is a way to keep him from being elected, you, again by default, supporting her positions.
If you desire the Republican party to return to former policies, you are at best a RINO. RINO is just another name for Democrat.
You actually are spreading disinformation. You employ left wing sources. You are quick to call Trump a liar, but don't call out people who are actually lying.
Lastly, you are disingenuous and dishonest in your presentation. This is a thread about Harris. There are numerous threads about Trump, yet you continue to speak about Trump and refuse to speak about Harris. Why don't you find this a dishonest action?

 

[JayBird]

You just admitted that the Democrat party is giving free abortions at their convention, but you don't accept that as evidence that they aren't for fewer abortions? I find that odd.

Because there's a difference between "women who want or need abortions should be able to get them" and "we want women to have as many abortions as possible".

The fact that Dems tend to support policies like comprehensive sex ed, free access to contraception, prenatal care, and a stronger social safety net--all things that have been shown to reduce abortions (unlike bans)--supports my point.

To keep Trump from being elected means that Harris would be elected. By default, knowing this is what would happen, you are supporting Harris. Since voting for Harris is a way to keep him from being elected, you, again by default, supporting her positions.

Like I said, I cannot in good faith give my vote to a terribly immoral person like Trump, and then turn around and tell people that morality is important to Christians.

If you desire the Republican party to return to former policies, you are at best a RINO. RINO is just another name for Democrat.
You actually are spreading disinformation. You employ left wing sources. You are quick to call Trump a liar, but don't call out people who are actually lying.
Lastly, you are disingenuous and dishonest in your presentation. This is a thread about Harris. There are numerous threads about Trump, yet you continue to speak about Trump and refuse to speak about Harris. Why don't you find this a dishonest action?

Please stop the personal attacks.

 

[Cameron143]

Because there's a difference between "women who want or need abortions should be able to get them" and "we want women to have as many abortions as possible".

The fact that Dems tend to support policies like comprehensive sex ed, free access to contraception, prenatal care, and a stronger social safety net--all things that have been shown to reduce abortions (unlike bans)--supports my point.


Like I said, I cannot in good faith give my vote to a terribly immoral person like Trump, and then turn around and tell people that morality is important to Christians.



Please stop the personal attacks.

Teaching young people about sex actually promotes promiscuity. Romans 7 teaches about the motions of sin that when we learn of it, it creates a desire in us to commit the sin. So Democrats are choosing an unbiblical practice and creating the very problem you profess to object to.
Not voting for Trump is one thing. Advocating against him is another. We don't live in a vacuum. By advocating against him, you, by default, advocate for someone who is at least equally immoral. The example you set according to your standards is immoral either way. So you are deceiving yourself.
My attacks are no more personal than your attacks on Trump. If what I am saying about you is wrong, then what you are saying about Trump is as well. You can't have it both ways. I know you would like to, but we try to keep the playing field equal here. Either stop assessing others, or your words are fair game to assess you.

 

[JayBird]

Teaching young people about sex actually promotes promiscuity.

Fortunately, that's been studied and it turns out that comprehensive sex ed reduces teen pregnancies, which obviously reduce abortions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8872707/

Not voting for Trump is one thing. Advocating against him is another. We don't live in a vacuum. By advocating against him, you, by default, advocate for someone who is at least equally immoral. The example you set according to your standards is immoral either way. So you are deceiving yourself.

If you want to give your vote to a terribly immoral man like Trump, you will have also surrendered any ability to lecture, preach, or even talk about other people's moral choices.

For me, that's too much to give up for a person like Trump.

My attacks are no more personal than your attacks on Trump.

FYI, Trump isn't here and you are not Trump.

If what I am saying about you is wrong, then what you are saying about Trump is as well. You can't have it both ways. I know you would like to, but we try to keep the playing field equal here. Either stop assessing others, or your words are fair game to assess you.

Are you saying you cannot engage in a discussion with someone who has different views than you without making personal comments or attacks? I think you can do better.

 

[Cameron143]

Fortunately, that's been studied and it turns out that comprehensive sex ed reduces teen pregnancies, which obviously reduce abortions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8872707/


If you want to give your vote to a terribly immoral man like Trump, you will have also surrendered any ability to lecture, preach, or even talk about other people's moral choices.

For me, that's too much to give up for a person like Trump.


FYI, Trump isn't here and you are not Trump.


Are you saying you cannot engage in a discussion with someone who has different views than you without making personal comments or attacks? I think you can do better.

If you support an immoral person like Harris, wouldn't you not be fit to make moral judgments. And by continually speaking about Trump on a thread about Harris, aren't you being immoral.
Arguing ideas with you is a waste of time. You will come up with some left wing source that supports your position. I just shared with you what the Bible says about how sin happens and you trust your worldly source and ignore what God says. This is also immoral.
I'm doing exactly what I intended to do. You have made it your mission in life to discredit Trump. I have made it my mission to discredit you. I don't understand the problem. I'm merely using the same tactics you are. If I am wrong in doing so, why aren't you?

 

[JayBird]

If you support an immoral person like Harris, wouldn't you not be fit to make moral judgments.

Again, I'm not stumping for Harris.

And by continually speaking about Trump on a thread about Harris, aren't you being immoral.

No, that doesn't make sense.

Arguing ideas with you is a waste of time. You will come up with some left wing source that supports your position. I just shared with you what the Bible says about how sin happens and you trust your worldly source and ignore what God says. This is also immoral.
I'm doing exactly what I intended to do. You have made it your mission in life to discredit Trump. I have made it my mission to discredit you. I don't understand the problem. I'm merely using the same tactics you are. If I am wrong in doing so, why aren't you?

You seem intent on making things very personal. I pray you can do better.

 

[cv5]

Research, you say you do it, but you never do.

Mostly Dem-bot and Antifa-bot stuff.

 

[Cameron143]

Again, I'm not stumping for Harris.


No, that doesn't make sense.


You seem intent on making things very personal. I pray you can do better.

You can't admit I'm merely doing the same thing you are doing. In binary choices, to go against one is to promote the other. More dishonesty. And if I'm making it personal, that must be what you are doing. I'm merely mimicking you.

 

[cv5]

You like to use this a lot. It means you're just using canned talking points. Have you actually done any research on your own? Why do you not address issues that really matter to Christians since you're on a Christian Chat site? Issues like the callous taking of human life? Kamala Harris supports abortion up to and right after the moment of birth.

1. Kamala Harris is a co-sponsor of S.1645, a bill that, if enacted, would invalidate nearly all state and federal limitations on abortion.
2. Kamala Harris voted against legislation that would protect unborn children from abortion after 20 weeks when the unborn child can feel pain.
3. Kamala Harris voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act.
4. Kamala Harris voted to allow the use of our tax dollars for abortion. She also voted for taxpayer funding of abortion providers.
5. Kamala Harris voted against confirmation of Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court.

I finally figured it out:
@JayBird is the lawyer for Mr. Scratch.
Basically the evil counterpart of Daniel Webster.

 

[cv5]

Most likely the DOJ. Sure hope so. A scorched earth policy may be in order.

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[cv5]

If you support an immoral person like Harris, wouldn't you not be fit to make moral judgments. And by continually speaking about Trump on a thread about Harris, aren't you being immoral.
Arguing ideas with you is a waste of time. You will come up with some left wing source that supports your position. I just shared with you what the Bible says about how sin happens and you trust your worldly source and ignore what God says. This is also immoral.
I'm doing exactly what I intended to do. You have made it your mission in life to discredit Trump. I have made it my mission to discredit you. I don't understand the problem. I'm merely using the same tactics you are. If I am wrong in doing so, why aren't you?

If you want to give your vote to a terribly immoral man like Trump, you will have also surrendered any ability to lecture, preach, or even talk about other people's moral choices.

How many people has Trump trafficked all over the world? How much fentanyl and human beings has he allowed across the border and what was his cut of the action? How many Ukrainians has he slaughtered in a bogus war? How much did Trump earn selling his office?

I am coming up empty here.

I'm voting for the less evil guy.

 

[Cameron143]

If you want to give your vote to a terribly immoral man like Trump, you will have also surrendered any ability to lecture, preach, or even talk about other people's moral choices.

How many people has Trump trafficked all over the world? How much fentanyl and human beings has he allowed across the border and what was his cut of the action? How many Ukrainians has he slaughtered in a bogus war? How much did Trump earn selling his office?

I am coming up empty here.

I'm voting for the less evil guy.

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He's not intellectually honest. He claims not to support Harris, but only desires to keep Trump from being re-elected. He's not honest enough to admit in a binary choice it is one and the same.