Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

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Cameron143 said:
We have a binary choice. One choice continues the demise of the nation. The other choice at least offers the nation a chance. It's not a difficult choice.
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Listen it is absolutely horrible what has happened in the USA, I have immediate family that live in Chicago area, Dallas and Michigan so I get it.

Trump is like a Trojan horse, no matter who wins, the agenda will proceed, my inclination is he talks a good game and hands out a few crumbs but either he is being used and does not know it, or he is the actor that he has always been.

I would like to believe, I really would, but I am extremely skeptical based on the powers that be behind the scenes, and how the money flows.

Time will tell.
 
HeIsHere said:
Sure like the discriminate bombings and Irag etc. etc.,

Its okay you are American comes with the territory.
Up to you to dig much deeper and follow the money.
We disagree so carry on, I see no reason to engage you further on this.
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And yet you had to address it again. Conservatives always follow the money.

Not to acknowledge terrorism and allow it to continue to exist only foments more terrorism. The current brand of terrorism was allowed by the current administration by allowing Iranian oil to be sold and giving them cash. The same thing occurred under Obama.
Trump did the opposite and destroyed ISIS. Not so much terrorism.
I have little doubt that Israel has committed atrocities in Palestine. People don't watch their friends and families suffer and die and always do things as they ought. But not to see that Israel has used restraint in much of their dealings with terrorism is ridiculous. It would have been much easier to take out the last terrorist by just bombing the whole building. The explosive they used took out the terrorist and his close associates only.
 
Tamarisk said:
My biggest concern is that thier would be a nationwide abortion ban and the people would protest and Trump would order the military to use force against them. Your intelligent, I know you are aware that this would be the end of America.

How do you rationalize it? How can you sleep at night?
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Absolutely ridiculous, absurd “concern”.

And quite frankly, I don’t believe you have this absurd concern.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Listen it is absolutely horrible what has happened in the USA, I have immediate family that live in Chicago area, Dallas and Michigan so I get it.

Trump is like a Trojan horse, no matter who wins, the agenda will proceed, my inclination is he talks a good game and hands out a few crumbs but either he is being used and does not know it, or he is the actor that he has always been.

I would like to believe, I really would, but I am extremely skeptical based on the powers that be behind the scenes, and how the money flows.

Time will tell.
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We will. But conservatives aren't relying on Trump. We are praying God will be merciful. Trump is just a blunt instrument.
 
Cameron143 said:
Your last post...#411...is a good example. Trump sent abortion back to the states, thus guaranteeing it will not go away. Since that time, more abortions, not less have been performed. Your fear is baseless in light of the facts.
Further, Trump will not use military troops against American citizens. He never has and has never said he would. You have listened to propaganda. Further, unlike liberals who have no problem going against the Constitution, conservatives wouldn't allow Trump to break our laws.

You have been brainwashed into believing lies, and dumbed down in your use of critical thinking. You should investigate matters for yourself. Perhaps you might even try getting information from a variety of sources. Just a thought.
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Undercover journalist have released a video of the head of Protect 2025 who was a official in the Trump administration and is now writing policy for the campaign. says in the video regardless of what he says in the media 2025 is connected directly with Trump and he is going to work with the administration to accomplish Project 2025.

And he says That when they deport millions of illegals the masses will protest and they are “making the case to use the military on protestors”

The cats out of the bag at this point. Wether you admit it or not.


 
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I heard on the news this morning that Planned Parenthood will be offering FREE abortions and vasectomies at the DNC Convention this week.
 
Tamarisk said:
Undercover journalist have released a video of the head of Protect 2025 who was a official in the Trump administration and is now writing policy for the campaign. says in the video regardless of what he says in the media 2025 is connected directly with Trump and he is going to work with the administration to accomplish Project 2025.

And he says That when they deport millions of illegals the masses will protest and they are “making the case to use the military on protestors”

The cats out of the bag at this point. Wether you admit it or not.


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Trump has rejected 2025. Illegals should be deported. Protest is fine. If protesters break the law they should be jailed. If the protests are beyond what local police can handle, National Guard troops should be used to restore order.
Don't you care when people's lives are put at risk or their property is destroyed? Should that be allowed? Should law breakers be afforded rights and law abiding citizens lose theirs? Do you believe in law and order? Do you believe that laws should be followed and offenders prosecuted?
 
Billyd said:
I heard on the news this morning that Planned Parenthood will be offering FREE abortions and vasectomies at the DNC Convention this week.
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Of course. Satan and his emissaries hate human life.

I reiterate the impossibility to know what democrats stand for, and yet support and vote for them, to being a Christian.
 
Tamarisk said:
Undercover journalist have released a video of the head of Protect 2025 who was a official in the Trump administration and is now writing policy for the campaign. says in the video regardless of what he says in the media 2025 is connected directly with Trump and he is going to work with the administration to accomplish Project 2025.

And he says That when they deport millions of illegals the masses will protest and they are “making the case to use the military on protestors”

The cats out of the bag at this point. Wether you admit it or not.


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You can post forever on how disingenuous Trump really is .... all is forgiven because he is going to save the nation.
 
Cameron143 said:
Trump has rejected 2025. Illegals should be deported. Protest is fine. If protesters break the law they should be jailed. If the protests are beyond what local police can handle, National Guard troops should be used to restore order.
Don't you care when people's lives are put at risk or their property is destroyed? Should that be allowed? Should law breakers be afforded rights and law abiding citizens lose theirs? Do you believe in law and order? Do you believe that laws should be followed and offenders prosecuted?
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Did you watch the video?
 
Jimbone said:
This comment didn't age well. Kamala is a full blown communist now and openly states her communist policies that WILL finish the job they started and destroy the US completely while putting the government boot on our necks. "Slightly left of center". How did we get so ignorant of basic facts here in the US? We just believe what the TV tells us? Still? Yea this comment did not age well at all.
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How is Harris a "full blown communist"?
 
Cameron143 said:
Trump has rejected 2025.
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He's lying because Project 2025 is massively unpopular.

It was written by over 100 of his former staffers, led by a guy he travels and hangs around with and whose book JD Vance wrote a forward for. Trump's even on video talking about it at a Heritage Foundation event, referring to a team that's working on plans for his 2nd term (the HF led the writing of Project 2025).

https://rumble.com/v11w4eo-donald-j...ndation-annual-leadership-conference-421.html

At around 20 mins, he says that Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts and others are "going to work on some other things that are going to be very exciting, I think, Kevin, I think maybe the most exciting of all." And then at around 41 mins he refers to the HF's plans as a "colossal mandate" and says it will "lay the groundwork for exactly what our movement will do" in order to "save America".

"But this is a great group. And they're going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America and that's coming. That's coming. Because nobody can stand what's happening right now. Only a fool, only a fool or somebody that hates our country can like what's happening right now. Never been in this position before and already we know a very big part of our agenda."​
 
Cameron143 said:
No need. The guy who wrote 2025 has left the Heritage Foundation and Trump is using 2025. Old fake news. Try some other sources.
Also, please answer my questions.
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Yes, and now he’s grading policy for the Trump campaign.

The video was taken at a fundraiser event before he stepped down. He says, in the video that he is going to be stepping down, and that project2025 will continue the same without him, and will still have strong ties to the administration and then he names names.

Most the the stuff is in Agenda 47 that is Trumps personal plan that he is campaigning on. Project2025 By the Heritage foundation is just the details on how to accomplish it.

It is nothing new they have come up with plans for conservative presidents since Nixon and usually they adapt around 30% of the plan. However, Trump adapted 70% of the heritage foundation plan in his last term.

I don’t he he will do everything like banning porn. I can’t see him doing that considering he had a porn star speak at the RNC

Ben Carson is on the board and other notable figures from his administration.
 
JayBird said:
It's specifically in Project 2025, which was written by Trump officials as a blueprint for a Trump second term.
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How many times does Trump have to say he's not following it. It was written by an individual at Heritage Foundation who is no longer there. It's old and fake news you are relying on. Trump was out of office. He had no officials.
 
JayBird said:
He's lying because Project 2025 is massively unpopular.

It was written by over 100 of his former staffers, led by a guy he travels and hangs around with and whose book JD Vance wrote a forward for. Trump's even on video talking about it at a Heritage Foundation event, referring to a team that's working on plans for his 2nd term (the HF led the writing of Project 2025).

https://rumble.com/v11w4eo-donald-j...ndation-annual-leadership-conference-421.html

At around 20 mins, he says that Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts and others are "going to work on some other things that are going to be very exciting, I think, Kevin, I think maybe the most exciting of all." And then at around 41 mins he refers to the HF's plans as a "colossal mandate" and says it will "lay the groundwork for exactly what our movement will do" in order to "save America".

"But this is a great group. And they're going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America and that's coming. That's coming. Because nobody can stand what's happening right now. Only a fool, only a fool or somebody that hates our country can like what's happening right now. Never
So been in this position before and already we know a very big part of our agenda."​
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Project 25, in my opinion, has some wonderful provisions. Very sound conservative document. But Trump has disassociated himself with it.
Can you, in your own words, tell me what you find objectionable?
 
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