Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[JayBird]

The question is has the trust in the election been restored?

For non-Republicans it was never an issue. But because Republicans and Trump still go around claiming the election was stolen even though they can't prove a single thing, too many Republicans just believe it without question.,

Here's my main question for you. Since you're now aware that multiple audits were conducted in multiple swing states and multiple investigations were conducted by firms hired by the Trump, and they all reached the exact same conclusion (the results were completely valid), on what basis do you still believe that the election was stolen?

 

[JayBird]

Here you go fella. Kamalatov opens her pie hole.....and kablooey.
Stay tuned. And grab some popcorn while you watch the hyperinflation and vain attempts at wage and price controls.

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Your post has nothing at all to do with what you replied to.

I'll try again, and please answer in good faith.

Can we not trust the conclusions of firms hired by Trump?

Also, since you apparently are actually saying you conducted a national audit of the 2020 election, can we see your methods?

 

[JayBird]

Him and Raffensperger should have been impeached, then criminally charged.

For what?

 

[cv5]

on what basis do you still believe that the election was stolen?

About 1.2 terabytes of data stored in my frontal lobes.
How are your frontal lobes doing? Did you get that obligatory Dem lobotomy?
Because it sure sounds like you have.

 

[cv5]

I'll try again, and please answer in good faith.

You are kidding right? Or maybe its the lobotomy affecting your judgement?

 

[JayBird]

About 1.2 terabytes of data stored in my frontal lobes.

Shouldn't you be sharing that with Trump?

How are your frontal lobes doing? Did you get that obligatory Dem lobotomy?
Because it sure sounds like you have.

Why do you have to engage in personal insults like that? It's not exactly Christ like, is it?

 

[ZNP]

Here's my main question for you. Since you're now aware that multiple audits were conducted in multiple swing states and multiple investigations were conducted by firms hired by the Trump, and they all reached the exact same conclusion (the results were completely valid), on what basis do you still believe that the election was stolen?

First you answer my question. Where did I say I believe the election was stolen? Because without that this question of yours is a lie. Thanks.

 

[cv5]

Why do you have to engage in personal insults like that? It's not exactly Christ like, is it?

I only insult willful liars that I have utter contempt for. And legit Christians always get the velvet glove treatment from me.

Leaves you in dire straits does it not?

 

[Susanna]

Once again, comments like that do not help restore the situation. You are calling these people liars, and for a sworn affidavit that is perjury. The insults that fly over this are outrageous. The fact is there is no proof the election wasn't stolen. Biden had four years to prove it by doing a complete audit. You can be sure if it wasn't stolen he would have loved to have rubbed the noses of people in the fact that he got 81 million votes. Instead just nothing but insults and slander.

Didn’t you just call the people with a contradictory opinion liars?

 

[ZNP]

Didn’t you just call the people with a contradictory opinion liars?

can you tell me which post of mine has you confused?

 

[JayBird]

First you answer my question. Where did I say I believe the election was stolen? Because without that this question of yours is a lie. Thanks.

Oh, then please accept my apologies. I was under the mistaken impression that you believed the 2020 election was stolen.

If that's not your view, then that was my mistake.

 

[JayBird]

I only insult willful liars that I have utter contempt for. And legit Christians always get the velvet glove treatment from me.

Leaves you in dire straits does it not?

I'm very sorry to see you in such a state that you feel compelled to call people nasty names so casually.

I pray that you find a way to behave better.

 

[Susanna]

can you tell me which post of mine has you confused?

The one I responded to.

 

[cv5]

I'm very sorry to see you in such a state that you feel compelled to call people nasty names so casually.

I pray that you find a way to behave better.

Looks like we have another 2024 election groomer on board.....
And the worst part is....the nauseating attempts at civility and politeness.

 

[cv5]

Elon Musk on X: "Kamala is quite literally a communist. She wants not merely equal opportunity, but equal outcomes." / X

 

[ZNP]

Oh, then please accept my apologies. I was under the mistaken impression that you believed the 2020 election was stolen.

If that's not your view, then that was my mistake.

I have said repeatedly, ad nauseum, that I believe you have to have trust in the election, if 50-70% of Americans think there is election fraud then that is the problem. Your goal as president must be to restore the trust in the election. I am not the judge, I am not the jury and I have not personally got any first hand information of election fraud in 2020. I understand why people think there was fraud, there were many things about that election that were not "kosher". I understand why American citizens would call for audits and I fully agree that is a reasonable request.

However, as an ambassador of the kingdom of the heavens it is not my place to conduct the investigation.

I watched two movies on the subject, I think 2,000 Mules and some other movie that focused more on the dominion machines. I felt that both movies made a very compelling case for wanting this investigation to be done.

I think Joe Biden has completely failed in this job of restoring trust. I think the proof is out there that instead of restoring trust he has only caused more and more people to distrust the process.

I also think that CNN and MSNBC have suffered a serious decline in their ratings and that is in part due to how they have covered this issue.

 

[ZNP]

Didn’t you just call the people with a contradictory opinion liars?

No, I said that there are 2,000 signed affidavits. That is evidence of election fraud. By definition a signed affidavit is admissible in court as evidence. So to say that there is no evidence is equivalent to calling the 2,000 people liars and accusing them of perjury. That is slander. Show me where it has been proved that they were not telling the truth? If you can't do that then you have no right to say there is no evidence of election fraud. This is not a matter of opinion.

 

[Susanna]

No, I said that there are 2,000 signed affidavits. That is evidence of election fraud. By definition a signed affidavit is admissible in court as evidence. So to say that there is no evidence is equivalent to calling the 2,000 people liars and accusing them of perjury. That is slander. Show me where it has been proved that they were not telling the truth? If you can't do that then you have no right to say there is no evidence of election fraud.

Why are the courts not allowing those affidavits?

 

[ZNP]

Why are the courts not allowing those affidavits?

My understanding is that that courts have ruled they don't have standing, that election fraud is supposed to be the jurisdiction of the State government and not the courts. I also understand that the courts have never issued a ruling on the affidavits.

 

[JayBird]

I have said repeatedly, ad nauseum, that I believe you have to have trust in the election, if 50-70% of Americans think there is election fraud then that is the problem.

I agree, which is why we need to identify why many Americans (almost all Republicans) believe that.

It turns out that the reason they believe it isn't because it's been proven, but instead it's because Republican leaders have been going around the country telling everyone that our elections are fraudulent.

So instead of conducting more and more and more audits and investigations, we need to find a way to get Republican leaders to stop telling the pubic that our elections are untrustworthy.

Your goal as president must be to restore the trust in the election. I am not the judge, I am not the jury and I have not personally got any first hand information of election fraud in 2020. I understand why people think there was fraud, there were many things about that election that were not "kosher". I understand why American citizens would call for audits and I fully agree that is a reasonable request.

Sure, and those audits were done and the results were unequivocal. The election was legit and the results valid. If some people won't accept those results, then why did they want the audits in the first place? Were they only going to accept the results if they were what they already believed?

I watched two movies on the subject, I think 2,000 Mules and some other movie that focused more on the dominion machines. I felt that both movies made a very compelling case for wanting this investigation to be done.

Again, investigations and audits have been done, many, many, many times.

I think Joe Biden has completely failed in this job of restoring trust. I think the proof is out there that instead of restoring trust he has only caused more and more people to distrust the process.

How exactly would President Biden, a Democrat, convince MAGA voters that the election was valid? If they won't even accept the results of investigations paid for by the Trump campaign or audits conducted by Republicans and Trump-picked firms, what makes you think they'll see anything Biden says as reason to change their minds?

I also think that CNN and MSNBC have suffered a serious decline in their ratings and that is in part due to how they have covered this issue.

That would be odd, since it was Fox News that not only had to pay over 3/4ths of a billion dollars to Dominion for lying about them, but also was shown (via discovery) that they deliberately lie to their audience.