Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[Squigglylines]

I met with them for 20 years. I had home meetings and went to home meetings. I was a ministry leader. And I gave the message at one of the meetings. But like I said this was a "charismatic" church but a non denominational. When they left the Baptists they were united with a bunch of pentecostals. So it was an amalgamation. We had about 2,000 members.

I don't have any knowledge of the group you met with other than what you said. So the original group was Baptist but then left the Baptist and combined with a group of Pentecostals. I've seen this situation before where groups divide over teaching's and form another group. At the same time though it leads back to what I said about being taught about breaking bread with unbelievers where one portion of a group was observing the others teachings and there was friction over some of it so they split into another group. So which it is I would have to guess since I only have the information you gave but either the group of Pentecostals disagreed with the other's in the Pentecostal group they were meeting with and left or the Baptist group divided. Either way though there are three groups your speaking of with three different teachings one Baptist, another Pentecostal and the third the amalgamation you met with for 20 years.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The real question is how could the "Secret Service" FAIL in such an elementary, and OBVIOUS fashion???

Who says they "failed"? Go to Breitbart News and see under Trump Assassination Probe:
Acting Secret Service Director Ronald Rowe Admits "Failure" (my quotation marks): ‘That Roofline Should Have Been Covered’

If that "roofline should have been covered" (and was not), then it was a conspiracy to assassinate Trump. But he refused to call it a conspiracy, since he would have admitted guilt. The whole Secret Service should have been arrested by now.

 

[studier]

There is that thinking in Dominion Theology where we thought it was not good to speak of that whole dominion aspect especially to a secular type audience because they would see it offensive. In Africa and Asia and many other places opportunity presented itself because of decline caused by both man and nature to send missionaries and plant the seed of dominion thought. This thread was open prey from it's beginning post in that it ask if there was anything Trump could do to cause them to not vote for him as if it was all about him when it should have ask if there was anything that the Republicans could do that would change their vote. I spent most of my life being taught this thinking and you might think you have a say but they have you all putting their people into place and have for some time now.

Dominionism, Theonomy, none of it is that widespread. But the question they raise is a good one IMO. If not God's Standard, then whose? I also agree with the thinking that everything is ultimately a religion, so, once again, what religion do Christians support and why are Christians not supposed to support God's standards when they live in a country that votes for its leaders and laws?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I don't know where to begin if the groups you mention are who you think teach Dominion Theology but no not them. Instead you should look at the Latter Rain,Shepherding movement but they change their name all the time. Pentecostal's, Evangelicals is where I was taught about the Third Wave.

Not mainstream Pentecostals, the ones that have the name in their title and not affiliated maybe, but not the mainstream. They didn't go for that Latter Rain stuff.

 

[Squigglylines]

Dominionism, Theonomy, none of it is that widespread. But the question they raise is a good one IMO. If not God's Standard, then whose? I also agree with the thinking that everything is ultimately a religion, so, once again, what religion do Christians support and why are Christians not supposed to support God's standards when they live in a country that votes for its leaders and laws?

I knew you agreed with it since post 9143 because you knew what all the phrases even meant but thanks for admitting it. The basic instinct of anyone hearing that someone or a group was secretly overtaking it would be to ask who to so they could defend the group they loved. My original comments were about the Seven Mountain mandate doctrine, New Apostolic Reformation and other names they use working their way into the Republican party overtaking it. It's revealing in that those who know what it is already and know the names they use argue that it's not instead of asking what it is. It shows that they already understood it and agreed with it and were approaching it similar to Wallnau's opinion to not speak of it to every audience.

 

[Squigglylines]

Not mainstream Pentecostals, the ones that have the name in their title and not affiliated maybe, but not the mainstream. They didn't go for that Latter Rain stuff.

The Latter Rain movement was a name from the 40's -70's or 80's but maybe even later today most refer to it as the Third Wave of the Holy Spirit. The Second Wave was the transition during the 60's to 80's.

 

[Mem]

God? Jesus Christ? The cross of Christ?

This would seem to be obvious answer but it's more subtle than that. For example, the cross is there but the mercy of it is missing, and God is there but no real love. That's what makes it so difficult to 'spot' out.
It's probably something more like the woman in the picture looks the same in the other (things missing) panel but she's actually a man. And what is presented as love toward her is actually hate toward all of 'her' Olympic boxing competitors.

 

[Mem]

Someone recently told me something like, "I've got you're back" and I find myself thinking, "I hope not like the SS had Trump's"
Sure, they had his six but they left him with an open nine.

And then criticize him for taking advantage of it...

 

[ZNP]

I don't have any knowledge of the group you met with other than what you said. So the original group was Baptist but then left the Baptist and combined with a group of Pentecostals. I've seen this situation before where groups divide over teaching's and form another group. At the same time though it leads back to what I said about being taught about breaking bread with unbelievers where one portion of a group was observing the others teachings and there was friction over some of it so they split into another group. So which it is I would have to guess since I only have the information you gave but either the group of Pentecostals disagreed with the other's in the Pentecostal group they were meeting with and left or the Baptist group divided. Either way though there are three groups your speaking of with three different teachings one Baptist, another Pentecostal and the third the amalgamation you met with for 20 years.

Many Baptists left the Southern Baptist Convention when they left the word of God.

 

[ZNP]

Someone recently told me something like, "I've got you're back" and I find myself thinking, "I hope not like the SS had Trump's"
Sure, they had his six but they left him with an open nine.

And then criticize him for taking advantage of it...

It takes a special type of Leftist to criticize someone for wearing a bandage on your ear where you were shot after amazingly avoiding having your head blown off by an assassin.

 

[Squigglylines]

Many Baptists left the Southern Baptist Convention when they left the word of God.

That's what I was meaning about not being able to determine which of the three were leaving and why from your post. They may have left both Baptist and Pentecostal groups because they felt they were too charismatic or they may have left both because they felt they were not charismatic enough.

 

[cv5]

@amuse
TSA WEAPONIZATION🧵: Bombshell reporting by
@tracybeanz
and
@wmahoney5
reveals that a TSA whistleblower informed
@LaboscoSonya
, Executive Director of the Air Marshal National Council, that Tulsi Gabbard is actively under surveillance via the TSA's Quiet Skies Program.

 

[cv5]

Air Marshal National Council
@FAMS_AMNC
BREAKING: In the coming days the AMNC will be blowing the whistle on how TSA/FAMS have initiated armed government surveillance on high level conservative politicians. What we have will horrify and sicken you as Americans. You won’t believe it. And we can 100% prove it.

The weaponization of our government must stop. And it will when you see this.
@LaboscoSonya

@TuckerCarlson

@RepAshleyHinson

@elonmusk

@SenateGOP

 

[Mem]

It takes a special type of Leftist to criticize someone for wearing a bandage on your ear where you were shot after amazingly avoiding having your head blown off by an assassin.

I just skimmed through the article which seemed to be attempting to either confirm or deny that he went golfing on July 14th. The claim using the picture of him golfing was that he didn't have a Band-Aid on when golfing but then had one on at the press conference. The images juxtaposed next to each other (without any verifiable timestamps) was just another attempt at gaslighting the public.

I was reluctant to watch a video that YouTube's AI repeatedly suggested to me, I was didn't really want to see anyone making fun of the event, but I eventually decided to see what they were saying, because a comedian' material is often not actually funny if there isn't some truth to it.
PG-13
Comedians React Trump Shot

 

[Nehemiah6]

The part of this though I think many are not seeing is that groups like Seven Mountain Mandate and New Apostolic Reformation have plans to begin with the US and then rule the earth.

That may be their ambition but it will not happen. If anything, the trend worldwide at present is Communistic Fascism (including the USA).

There is a huge movement in the UK right now by ordinary citizens to oppose mass illegal immigration. So how does the government respond?

UK REBELLION UNDERWAY: Government Declares War on Its Own Citizens Pushing Back Against UN’s Great Replacement Plan — Sunday Night Live
UK REBELLION UNDERWAY: Government Declares War on Its Own Citizens Pushing Back Against UN’s Great Replacement Plan — Sunday Night Live (infowars.com)

 

[studier]

I knew you agreed with it since post 9143 because you knew what all the phrases even meant but thanks for admitting it. The basic instinct of anyone hearing that someone or a group was secretly overtaking it would be to ask who to so they could defend the group they loved. My original comments were about the Seven Mountain mandate doctrine, New Apostolic Reformation and other names they use working their way into the Republican party overtaking it. It's revealing in that those who know what it is already and know the names they use argue that it's not instead of asking what it is. It shows that they already understood it and agreed with it and were approaching it similar to Wallnau's opinion to not speak of it to every audience.

Actually, I wouldn't know what SMM or NAR are without looking them up though I may have done so in the past. I did read and listen to Greg Bahnsen and some of his contemporaries, did a lot of reading on Law some time ago and had several online discussions re: Theonomy. The concept of "By What Standard" made sense to me and still does, but the discussions I was involved in came from the mindset that we would have an awful lot of work to do in trying to understand God's Law more comprehensively.

So, back to "By What Standard" - if not God's Law properly understood, then what are we left with?

 

[ZNP]

I just skimmed through the article which seemed to be attempting to either confirm or deny that he went golfing on July 14th. The claim using the picture of him golfing was that he didn't have a Band-Aid on when golfing but then had one on at the press conference. The images juxtaposed next to each other (without any verifiable timestamps) was just another attempt at gaslighting the public.

I was reluctant to watch a video that YouTube's AI repeatedly suggested to me, I was didn't really want to see anyone making fun of the event, but I eventually decided to see what they were saying, because a comedian' material is often not actually funny if there isn't some truth to it.
PG-13
Comedians React Trump Shot

Can we all just be thankful for the DEI hire policies of the Secret Service? That assassin was obviously a DEI hire.

 

[cv5]

Will the real Kamalatov please stand up....

Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ on X: "Kamala Harris proposes a regime of "equity" based on a simple principle: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. This should sound familiar. https://t.co/PO6vUSrJ5m" / X

 

[cv5]

TONY™ on X: "Don’t listen to the polls!!!! Kamala does not have the black vote!! “There’s one thing that people can’t do and that’s convince me that Kamala Harris is better than Trump.” 🔥🔥🔥🔥 https://t.co/TkbMY3yJzY" / X

 

[cv5]

TONY™ on X: "Yikes ‼️ Years ago, Kamala openly bragged about the POWER she had as a Prosecutor This is a horrible look And they call Trump a Dictator? https://t.co/hbUlNbJWwC" / X