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[ZNP]

Hi again @cv5

Oh, I'd be willing to bet that you will. Especially if that's what you think is going on out there with money.

Friend, money is just a tool by which a group of people can exchange goods in an agreed upon amount, for the services of others. That's all it is. Whether it is tied to some benchmark of some other commodity doesn't change how money works. It does limit the amount of money that can be put into the monetary system. You see, I asked if you had done that little math problem for a purpose, but I'm guessing you're not going to try it.

If money is a tool for exchange then Fiat money is a tool for a bank heist. That is what the 20% inflation was, a bank heist that stole money from every single American and everyone holding US treasuries.

 

[ZNP]

No, that would just pay off our debt. We'd still have all of the same expenses to continue paying. We just wouldn't have the great interest expense that we pay now. And I am all for working to pay down the U.S. debt. Hopefully someone will take up that challenge, but so far no one has been able to work it out that we might be able to regularly run budget supluses and to commit those surpluses to calling in bonds.

If our debt is paid off then we are not in danger of bankruptcy. Simply seize the property of every American and hand it over to the government just like they did in the time of Egypt.

 

[ZNP]

No, that would just pay off our debt. We'd still have all of the same expenses to continue paying. We just wouldn't have the great interest expense that we pay now. And I am all for working to pay down the U.S. debt. Hopefully someone will take up that challenge, but so far no one has been able to work it out that we might be able to regularly run budget supluses and to commit those surpluses to calling in bonds.

Let me repeat nobody. Not the current administration or any of the past ones. I think that the last presidential administration to run a few surplus years was back in the Clinton administration.

The great interest payment is our largest payment. Also if you take the property of all Americans then why should they continue paying for the military, so you can eliminate our second largest payment. Finally, if you are selling the Americans as slaves you don't need entitlements like SS and Medicare, slave owners will take care of those expenses as long as the slaves are profitable workers.

The goal is that Americans will own nothing and be happy or else be exterminated. The Antichrist does not need to have a bunch of complainers around that are never happy.

 

[tedincarolina]

If money is a tool for exchange then Fiat money is a tool for a bank heist. That is what the 20% inflation was, a bank heist that stole money from every single American and everyone holding US treasuries.

Hi Again @ZNP

Oh, is that the new conspiracy concerning money and the last round of inflation? I haven't really been keeping track.

God bless you,
Ted

 

[tedincarolina]

Also if you take the property of all Americans then why should they continue paying for the military,

Hi @ZNP

Do you ever stop and reread your posts? You really believe that's what's going on out here. The 'government', I'm going to assume you are referring to as those taking the property of all Americans, is taking our property and so we shouldn't be paying for a military. Did I read that wrong? Where do you come up with these understandings of 'how' things work? Is there a school somewhere that teaches these things? Oh, oh, oh no, I forgot. The government won't let them. (wink, wink) Right, that's what's going on.

I sure wish I could get the U.S. treasury then to pay my property tax bill and hey, they should have an interest in making sure that the insurance is paid, too.

 

[tedincarolina]

The great interest payment is our largest payment.

Which is why I'm hopeful that someone will take on the challenge to begin to pay it down a few trillion dollars over the next 10 years or so.

 

[tedincarolina]

The goal is that Americans will own nothing and be happy or else be exterminated. The Antichrist does not need to have a bunch of complainers around that are never happy.

You really believe that's what's going on out here in the real world, do you? Ok.

 

[tedincarolina]

Hi again @ZNP

Here, try this one on for size and see if it fits.

The U. S. currency is based on the gold standard. That means that we can only print enough money that corresponds with the value of the gold that we hold. So, gold has an established price and we can print that much money. But we need more money in our money supply. What shall we do.

Oh, oh, oh, call on me! Call on me!!!!

Yes, Ted, what do you think will happen. Well teacher, wouldn't the legislature just up the value of the gold price so that they can print more money?

Yes, that's right. Here's you a treat.

So, what do you think would stop the legislature from establishing a new price for gold?


Uhhhhh. nothin? It would just be some big debacle that we'd go through every now and then to get it raised. Kind of like what happens now with the debt ceiling.

Very good Ted. You get extra points and see me after class and I'll give you a big ice cream bar.

Hey @ZNP

Did you do the math yet? How much would an ounce of gold have to be valued at to cover the money supply that we have right now?

 

[cv5]

@amuse on X: "🧵MORE: FBI Declassifies 950 Pages on Suspected Fed Front Group Patriot Front – Almost Every Page is FULLY REDACTED. https://t.co/1mgAWjxhnZ" / X

 

[ZNP]

You really believe that's what's going on out here in the real world, do you? Ok.

I believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and I believe that what has been is what will be. I believe that what we saw in ancient Egypt with Joseph is a shadow of the tribulation which is to come. I believe the Bible is the word of God, that all things came into being through the word of God and that apart from the word of God there is nothing that has come into being.

That word includes the Lord telling us not to keep our treasure where thieves will break in and steal but to keep it in heaven.

Why, what do you believe?

 

[tedincarolina]

Hi @cv5

I'm sorry, but I'm not yet dumbed down enough to take some post on X as an educated understanding of how things really work.

 

[cv5]

How much would an ounce of gold have to be valued at to cover the money supply that we have right now?

ROFL

The dollar is based on WEIGHT and fineness.
The dollar is a silver coin containing 371.25 grains of pure silver.

The value is whatever anyone is willing to transact for one of them.
Be it the Cullinan diamond or a used Kleenex.

 

[tedincarolina]

I believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and I believe that what has been is what will be. I believe that what we saw in ancient Egypt with Joseph is a shadow of the tribulation which is to come. I believe the Bible is the word of God, that all things came into being through the word of God and that apart from the word of God there is nothing that has come into being.

That word includes the Lord telling us not to keep our treasure where thieves will break in and steal but to keep it in heaven.

Why, what do you believe?

Hi @ZNP
Well, I can tell you that I don't believe that any of that has one whit to do with the issue under discussion here. I also believe that Jesus is Lord. I'm not so convinced that Joseph's life in Egypt is a shadow of the tribulation. I haven't ever heard that one before. I absolutely believe that the word of God is true in everything that it tells us.

And yes, when the Lord told those who are his to not store up their treasures upon the earth, but in heaven where rust and moth won't harm them, that he wasn't talking about the money of goods of any nation. He was talking about doing good things and living a godly life which is what is stored up on our ledger in heaven.

 

[ZNP]

Hi again @ZNP

Here, try this one on for size and see if it fits.

The U. S. currency is based on the gold standard. That means that we can only print enough money that corresponds with the value of the gold that we hold. So, gold has an established price and we can print that much money. But we need more money in our money supply. What shall we do.

Oh, oh, oh, call on me! Call on me!!!!

Yes, Ted, what do you think will happen. Well teacher, wouldn't the legislature just up the value of the gold price so that they can print more money?

Yes, that's right. Here's you a treat.

So, what do you think would stop the legislature from establishing a new price for gold?


Uhhhhh. nothin? It would just be some big debacle that we'd go through every now and then to get it raised. Kind of like what happens now with the debt ceiling.

Very good Ted. You get extra points and see me after class and I'll give you a big ice cream bar.

Hey @ZNP

Did you do the math yet? How much would an ounce of gold have to be valued at to cover the money supply that we have right now?

OK, let's assume Ted is the corrupt government official in the US who does this. What will all the other 95% of the world's population do. they'll stop putting their trust in the dollar and instead put it in gold. They will turn in their US dollars for that gold. Since most gold back securities only have about 3% of the gold necessary to back the currency this will cause a crisis for the country and so the US will have to buy gold at the inflated price they just created from other countries. This will mean that Gold is a much better investment than US debt and so you will create a second crisis which is the inability to borrow money. That in turn will mean you will have to raise your interest rates putting you into recession. So you will have a run on your dollar and will have stag flation. Congratulations Ted you are now going down in history with Herbert Hoover and Joe Biden as one of the three worst presidents ever.

 

[tedincarolina]

OK, let's assume Ted is the corrupt government official in the US who does this. What will all the other 95% of the world's population do. they'll stop putting their trust in the dollar and instead put it in gold. They will turn in their US dollars for that gold. Since most gold back securities only have about 3% of the gold necessary to back the currency this will cause a crisis for the country and so the US will have to buy gold at the inflated price they just created from other countries. This will mean that Gold is a much better investment than US debt and so you will create a second crisis which is the inability to borrow money. That in turn will mean you will have to raise your interest rates putting you into recession. So you will have a run on your dollar and will have stag flation. Congratulations Ted you are now going down in history with Herbert Hoover and Joe Biden as one of the three worst presidents ever.

Hi @ZNP

That's how you see such a scenario working out is it? Ok.

 

[ZNP]

Hi @ZNP
Well, I can tell you that I don't believe that any of that has one whit to do with the issue under discussion here. I also believe that Jesus is Lord. I'm not so convinced that Joseph's life in Egypt is a shadow of the tribulation. I haven't ever heard that one before. I absolutely believe that the word of God is true in everything that it tells us.

And yes, when the Lord told those who are his to not store up their treasures upon the earth, but in heaven where rust and moth won't harm them, that he wasn't talking about the money of goods of any nation. He was talking about doing good things and living a godly life which is what is stored up on our ledger in heaven.

I guess we have identified the difference between me and you. I consider Jesus to be the truth, the reality, and everything else including currency to be vanity, a wisp of smoke, a mirage, an illusion.

 

[ZNP]

@amuse on X: "🧵MORE: FBI Declassifies 950 Pages on Suspected Fed Front Group Patriot Front – Almost Every Page is FULLY REDACTED. https://t.co/1mgAWjxhnZ" / X

That is sublime humor

 

[cv5]

If money is a tool for exchange then Fiat money is a tool for a bank heist. That is what the 20% inflation was, a bank heist that stole money from every single American and everyone holding US treasuries.

How about a century or so?

"If after ten minutes at the poker table you do not know who the patsy is—you are the patsy."

 

[cv5]

This will mean that Gold is a much better investment than US debt

Already happening. If you have the slightest degree of situational awareness as regards the debt markets and global economy.

You may ask: what is to become of the deer in the headlights crowd like @tedincarolina ?
Call the DNR cleanup crew. Because its gonna get messy.

 

[cv5]

This will mean that Gold is a much better investment than US debt and so you will create a second crisis which is the inability to borrow money.

"Gold had destroyed USTs"

Luke Gromen on X: "@GMillerMortgage @LawrenceLepard Here’s gold/TLT: Gold has destroyed LT USTs https://t.co/3KXo2IrmXs" / X

Luke Gromen on X: "@0xemon Gold has destroyed long term USTs for the past 10 years" / X

Luke Gromen on X: "This is great from my friend @GraphFinancials 👇 It describes why gold has been gaining share from USTs as global primary reserve asset for 10 years, & why that will likely continue." / X

Luke Gromen on X: "@PauloMacro …or, Russia tells them “we will accept gold for oil, valued at 50 barrels per oz”…" / X