Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

[studentoftheword]

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Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

There are scriptures that do suggest an age of Accountability

Children are Set Apart by God's Grace -I believe -

Children are definitely born with a Corrupt Nature so they are not born innocent of their Corrupt Nature but until they are able to fully understand the difference between Good and Evil God has chosen to not impute sin on little children so they are deemed sinless in God's eyes ---and therefore heaven worthy ---I believe -

Children are deemed innocent in Many Scriptures -----

Deuteronomy 1:39 CEB

Then the LORD spoke to you again: People of Israel, you said that your innocent young children would be taken prisoner in the battle for the land. But someday I will let them go into the land, and with my help they will conquer it and live there.


Psalm 106:37-39 GNT

37 They offered their own sons and daughters
as sacrifices to the idols of Canaan.
38 They killed those innocent children,
and the land was defiled by those murders.
39 They made themselves impure by their actions
and were unfaithful to God.


This scripture is about the Coming of Jesus ---

Isaiah 7:14-16 CEB

14 Therefore, the Lord will give you a sign. The young woman is pregnant and is about to give birth to a son, and she will name him Immanuel.[a]

15 He will eat butter and honey, and learn to reject evil and choose good.

16 Before the boy learns to reject evil and choose good, the land of the two kings you dread will be abandoned.


So Children have no knowledge of Choosing to do what God deems as good and evil ----and God has set apart Children until they are of an age to understand the difference and to choose to reject the evil and do good -----

The Jews use 13 as their guide as that is when they start studying the laws of God -----they are deemed mature

This scripture gives 20 years old as they can be registered in the census -----so some say this could be the Age of Accountability ----but who knows --all we know is small children according to scripture are deemed as innocent until they know to choose Good over Evil ------


Numbers 14:29 CSB
29 Your corpses will fall in this wilderness—all of you who were registered in the census, the entire number of you twenty years old or more—because you have complained about me.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

They die as sinners suppose to on their way to hell unless of course they are elect and saved by the obedience of Christ like anyone else.

You believe whatever you want to. That is not what the Bible says. If you want to believe in a vengeful God without mercy, I can't stop you. But I can stop you from spreading false doctrine. Shoot even the Muslims don't believe this way!!

 

[JTB]

But I can stop you from spreading false doctrine.

How?

Even when proven to be caught in a lie, people today STILL PREACH THE LIE!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

How?

Even when proven to be caught in a lie, people today STILL PREACH THE LIE!

That's a good point. All we can do is use Scripture and pray that God reveals the truth to each heart. So I really can't stop him, but I can share the truth and light and then pray God moves on each heart.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Do stillborns and babies go to ‘hell’?

One is born innocent, and remains so, until one reaches the point where they think they know enough to make a decision about sin/God. Being born into sin, means we live in a world that is predisposed to make sure we make the wrong decision about God. Until they understand and decide, babies have no sin to die from.

BINGO!!!!!!
"Original Sin" is a PHONY THEOLOGY - apparently fabricated by the Catholics so they could "Make Members" by baptizing Babies into their religious system, and spread FEAR among the people who opposed their LIE.

Biblically, THE ONLY SIN that will condemn me is MY OWN!!!

Our first-born only made it 4 hours out (hyaline Membrane - she came too early), and we didn't bother doing ANYTHING "religious" about it. Bought the styrofoam box that babies are buried in, and let the cemetery take it from there.

I expect to meet Angeline (as we named her) shortly when I go to where SHE has been for 55 years of our time.

 

[tourist]

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; Those babies were ungodly

The baby reference was added by you and is not part of scripture. Of course, there were ungodly people in the world, hence the flood. The bible does not state that babies were ungodly.

 

[tourist]

They die as sinners suppose to on their way to hell unless of course they are elect and saved by the obedience of Christ like anyone else.

Who exactly are the 'elect'? What does saved by the obedience of Christ mean?

 

[brightfame52]

You believe whatever you want to. That is not what the Bible says. If you want to believe in a vengeful God without mercy, I can't stop you. But I can stop you from spreading false doctrine. Shoot even the Muslims don't believe this way!!

They die as sinners suppose to on their way to hell unless of course they are elect and saved by the obedience of Christ like anyone else.

 

[brightfame52]

The baby reference was added by you and is not part of scripture. Of course, there were ungodly people in the world, hence the flood. The bible does not state that babies were ungodly.

Im sure there were babies that drowned in the world of the ungodly

 

[brightfame52]

Who exactly are the 'elect'? What does saved by the obedience of Christ mean?

Study the scriptures, maybe you can find out

 

[tourist]

Study the scriptures, maybe you can find out

Sounds a lot like keeping the law instead of relying on the shed blood of Jesus dying on the cross for sins.

 

[tourist]

Im sure there were babies that drowned in the world of the ungodly

Of course, there were but you were implying that these babies themselves were ungodly.

 

[brightfame52]

Of course, there were but you were implying that these babies themselves were ungodly.

Yeah they were ungodly, thats why they perished in the world of the ungodly DUH

 

[tourist]

Yeah they were ungodly, thats why they perished in the world of the ungodly DUH

Where in the bible does it say that the babies that died in the flood were ungodly?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

They die as sinners suppose to on their way to hell unless of course they are elect and saved by the obedience of Christ like anyone else.

Repetition doesn't make you right.

 

[brightfame52]

Where in the bible does it say that the babies that died in the flood were ungodly?

2 Pet 2:5

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

 

[brightfame52]

@studentoftheword

Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

Were they people with a soul ?

 

[sawdust]

@sawdust



Rom 5:12

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

all

So, all means all sometimes but not all the time?

Then please tell us what sin an hour old baby commits? It is impossible for it to even have a concept of sin, let alone commit a sin.

It dies because it inherited Adam's sin, not because of it's own sin. This is what your verse is saying. We are all sinners even before we commit any personal sin of our own because we are imputed with Adam's sin and inherit his corruption in the flesh.

Adam's sin passed on death to all of us and that guarantees we will commit our own sin but you have to know right from wrong before you can be held accountable for your sin.

 

[sawdust]

Your reasoning is really twisted.

What reasoning?

He's gone into his parrot mode again which he does when he can't put up a reasonable refutation.

 

[sawdust]

They die as sinners suppose to on their way to hell unless of course they are elect and saved by the obedience of Christ like anyone else.

You can't even discern why people go to hell (aka lake of fire). Here's a clue. It's not because of their sin, the wages of sin is death, not the lake of fire. It's because they are locked into death with no escape and death is eventually thrown into hell. We get hell by proxy, not as a direct result of our sin.

Not even unbelievers go to hell because of their sin but because they refuse to believe in Christ. Rejection of the word is evil which results in sin.

James 1:14&15
14 but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. 15 Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.