Tonight's Presidential Debate

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ZNP

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Joe Biden is going to have to step aside. The Democrats know that many people vote the ticket. If they aren't going to vote for Biden it will affect every single Democrat on that ticket. They might not vote for Trump, they might simply stay home, but either way thousands of Democrats will be impacted. Not simply the candidates but all those who are volunteering and all those who are donating. The pressure on him to step aside will be monumental.

Second, they cannot sidestep Kamala. To snub the first black woman from becoming president would be devastating to the Democrats base. That would be worse than sticking with Biden.

However, at the moment Kamala is better than Biden, so that is the choice they must make. She in turn could choose Pocahontas, and try to win suburban housewives with an "unprecedented" and "historic" change that women can rejoice in as Kamala represents them in the Whitehouse with a certified fraud as VP.
 

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here in NY, you can't legally say he's been convicted until Merchan enters the judgment at sentencing.

so now, we're all gonna be sued for libel. :p
Sure hope so.....
Take the kid gloves off and get it done team Trump.
 

ZNP

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Sure hope so.....
Take the kid gloves off and get it done team Trump.
Not me, I want to be prosecuted as a Christian, not as a slanderer.
 

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Joe Biden is going to have to step aside. The Democrats know that many people vote the ticket. If they aren't going to vote for Biden it will affect every single Democrat on that ticket. They might not vote for Trump, they might simply stay home, but either way thousands of Democrats will be impacted. Not simply the candidates but all those who are volunteering and all those who are donating. The pressure on him to step aside will be monumental.

Second, they cannot sidestep Kamala. To snub the first black woman from becoming president would be devastating to the Democrats base. That would be worse than sticking with Biden.

However, at the moment Kamala is better than Biden, so that is the choice they must make. She in turn could choose Pocahontas, and try to win suburban housewives with an "unprecedented" and "historic" change that women can rejoice in as Kamala represents them in the Whitehouse with a certified fraud as VP.

She should pick Levine.
 
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She in turn could choose Pocahontas.
you don’t feel like calling someone a racist name Is wrong.
I‘m surprised that you guys haven’t called Kamala a racist name yet like that black lady on the pancake box Aunt Jemima.
 

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I‘m surprised that you guys haven’t called Kamala a racist name yet like that black lady on the pancake box Aunt Jemima.
Kamala is a racist, but because she is part black (like Obama) no one wants to call them out on their Black Racism. If they were not racist they would have strongly opposed DEI. If you think Blacks are not racists ask Luis Farrakhan. He will tell you to kill all whites, and that the Black race is superior.
 

ZNP

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you don’t feel like calling someone a racist name Is wrong.
I‘m surprised that you guys haven’t called Kamala a racist name yet like that black lady on the pancake box Aunt Jemima.
She said she was descended from Native Americans so that she could get into Harvard. Then when she was mocked long enough she got a DNA test to prove that she was. It turned out that she had less than half of the DNA from Native Americans that the average American has, so based on her theory of what constitutes a Native American about 300 million Americans would be "native American". Then there were representatives of Native American tribes who said that being "Native American" is not about DNA, it is about being raised. She was never raised as a Native American, there was no incidence at all in her family history of suffering from bias or discrimination, nor could she point to any ancestor of hers that she knew was a native American. But she took the place of someone more qualified than her at Harvard and probably (I don't know all the details) got a significant savings on her tuition based on this lie. This is why I say she is a certified fraud. When you apply to college you have to sign it saying that everything is true to the best of your knowledge. This isn't someone who is misquoted or misunderstood, this is a sworn affidavit of hers in order to defraud someone else of the position and to save money. She is a certified liar. Your complaint about this ignores all the facts or else you are ignorant of them. There is no reason for people to be ignorant of this if she wants to hold public office. This is very relevant to all that might choose to vote for her or not vote for her.

As for Aunt Jemima that would not be relevant for Kamala. She is descended from Slave holders, so if you wanted to highlight that you could, but as for me I don't believe the children should be held responsible for the sins of the parents. Also, I look at the context, in a society where slavery was legal I would be more interested in how her ancestors treated the slaves than if they actually had them.
 
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"Is President Biden considering stepping down?"

I don’t think Joe Biden really cares If the American people want someone else to run.IMO he Is willing to sacrifice everyone on the democratic ticket even though he says that he Is for the people and Trump Is for himself.
 

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Jake Tapper and Rachel Maddow have been stunned at Biden's condition and are now questioning if Joe Biden is competent to be president.

My question is if they are so clueless that they didn't realize this until the debate then why is anyone listening to anything they say.

Also, shouldn't they be apologizing to the people they ridiculed and mocked who have been saying this for months or even years?
 

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Jake Tapper and Rachel Maddow have been stunned at Biden's condition and are now questioning if Joe Biden is competent to be president.

My question is if they are so clueless that they didn't realize this until the debate then why is anyone listening to anything they say.

Also, shouldn't they be apologizing to the people they ridiculed and mocked who have been saying this for months or even years?
the meltdown the liberal media is not due to how bad biden was in the debate.

it is because they can no longer hide the fact that biden is having major cognitive issues at times...
 

ZNP

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the meltdown the liberal media is not due to how bad biden was in the debate.

it is because they can no longer hide the fact that biden is having major cognitive issues at times...
I know that, but they want to pretend they didn't know until the debate so my argument is is they didn't know what everyone else in the world could see then why does anyone listen to anything they say? This should be proof positive that they totally lack discernment and common sense.
 

gb9

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I know that, but they want to pretend they didn't know until the debate so my argument is is they didn't know what everyone else in the world could see then why does anyone listen to anything they say? This should be proof positive that they totally lack discernment and common sense.
no belief in Jesus= no Holy Sprit=no real discernment.
 

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you don’t feel like calling someone a racist name Is wrong.
I‘m surprised that you guys haven’t called Kamala a racist name yet like that black lady on the pancake box Aunt Jemima.
WHO called Aunt Jemima a racist name? :mad:

i grew up a morning person in a house of non-morning persons, and she was the only one who ever smiled at me at breakfast. i love her!
 

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To be fair, if I were 85, I probably would do no better than Biden in a debate. So I don’t want to make fun of him. That said, he is not fit to lead and should he win, it would put our nation at great risk with respect to foreign affairs. Our president would only be a puppet, as I think he is now, but worse. He needs to step down.

But our big invasion right now is occurring at our border, and the democcrats are being completely disingenuous about the whole issue. Hopefully, they lose in November.
 
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WHO called Aunt Jemima a racist name? :mad:

i grew up a morning person in a house of non-morning persons, and she was the only one who ever smiled at me at breakfast. i love her!
I was wondering why ZNP was using the name Pocahontas In post#302
 
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To be fair, if I were 85, I probably would do no better than Biden in a debate. So I don’t want to make fun of him. That said, he is not fit to lead and should he win, it would put our nation at great risk with respect to foreign affairs. Our president would only be a puppet, as I think he is now, but worse. He needs to step down.

But our big invasion right now is occurring at our border, and the democcrats are being completely disingenuous about the whole issue. Hopefully, they lose in November.
Aren’t you being disingenuous also
 

ZNP

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I was wondering why ZNP was using the name Pocahontas In post#302
I thought everyone knew this about Elizabeth Warren -- She said she was descended from Native Americans so that she could get into Harvard. Then when she was mocked long enough she got a DNA test to prove that she was. It turned out that she had less than half of the DNA from Native Americans that the average American has, so based on her theory of what constitutes a Native American about 300 million Americans would be "native American". Then there were representatives of Native American tribes who said that being "Native American" is not about DNA, it is about being raised. She was never raised as a Native American, there was no incidence at all in her family history of suffering from bias or discrimination, nor could she point to any ancestor of hers that she knew was a native American. But she took the place of someone more qualified than her at Harvard and probably (I don't know all the details) got a significant savings on her tuition based on this lie. This is why I say she is a certified fraud. When you apply to college you have to sign it saying that everything is true to the best of your knowledge. This isn't someone who is misquoted or misunderstood, this is a sworn affidavit of hers in order to defraud someone else of the position and to save money. She is a certified liar. Your complaint about this ignores all the facts or else you are ignorant of them. There is no reason for people to be ignorant of this if she wants to hold public office. This is very relevant to all that might choose to vote for her or not vote for her.

Now she was called on the carpet for this and she could have said she was wrong, she could have apologized. But she didn't, she got a DNA test to prove that she has some Native American DNA as though that would prove she was a Native American. What would really have proved it is if she was raised on a reservation as a Native American.

But since she wants to claim that she is a Native American even though she cannot point to anyone in her family that was a Native American and even though the DNA evidence proves beyond any doubt that she isn't, fine, I'll refer to her as a Native American Princess.
 

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I thought everyone knew this about Elizabeth Warren -- She said she was descended from Native Americans so that she could get into Harvard. Then when she was mocked long enough she got a DNA test to prove that she was. It turned out that she had less than half of the DNA from Native Americans that the average American has, so based on her theory of what constitutes a Native American about 300 million Americans would be "native American". Then there were representatives of Native American tribes who said that being "Native American" is not about DNA, it is about being raised. She was never raised as a Native American, there was no incidence at all in her family history of suffering from bias or discrimination, nor could she point to any ancestor of hers that she knew was a native American. But she took the place of someone more qualified than her at Harvard and probably (I don't know all the details) got a significant savings on her tuition based on this lie. This is why I say she is a certified fraud. When you apply to college you have to sign it saying that everything is true to the best of your knowledge. This isn't someone who is misquoted or misunderstood, this is a sworn affidavit of hers in order to defraud someone else of the position and to save money. She is a certified liar. Your complaint about this ignores all the facts or else you are ignorant of them. There is no reason for people to be ignorant of this if she wants to hold public office. This is very relevant to all that might choose to vote for her or not vote for her.

Now she was called on the carpet for this and she could have said she was wrong, she could have apologized. But she didn't, she got a DNA test to prove that she has some Native American DNA as though that would prove she was a Native American. What would really have proved it is if she was raised on a reservation as a Native American.

But since she wants to claim that she is a Native American even though she cannot point to anyone in her family that was a Native American and even though the DNA evidence proves beyond any doubt that she isn't, fine, I'll refer to her as a Native American Princess.
He might know her as Fakahontas.