The US Joins WW3

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Russian Missile Drills Near Cuba 06/14/2024

Interesting news concerning the state of our war with Russia. One interesting point to me is that the prophecies always say the missiles, arrows, army "come from the north" to destroy Babylon, and here we learn that the orders include submarines in the North pole.

 

[Dude653]

Iran has been asking for some smoke from the US for a long time now. Also, why would the pandemic have started world war III?

 

[ZNP]

Also, why would the pandemic have started world war III?

I don't understand the question.

Perhaps many of us still have an old world view of war. In Vietnam who went and died? Blue collar Americans killing and being killed by blue collar Vietnamese. Who profited? Elites on the East and West coast of America involved in the military industrial complex. The elites kept their kids out of the war. They make money loaning money in wartime if they are bankers, of making movies about it if they are in Hollywood, or manufacturing and selling arms if they are in the military industrial complex. The same is true in the Iraq wars and in Afghanistan. If they are politicians they don't care what the reason is, just vote for whatever the lobbyists tell them to vote for.

War is no longer a "patriotic" thing. The elites have homes in several countries, they don't see an allegiance to one country. War is about killing off the blue collar workers who vastly outnumber the elites so that the elites can divy up oil fields, or gas fields, or showcase weaponry for sale, or loan money for wars, etc. If no one is fighting they can destabilize countries, and push them into war.

Now what will really give the elites power, real power, "make them the most powerful wizard in the world", will be one world government with one currency, a digital currency. But to do that you will have to persuade the populous to give up all autonomy and power to them. By persuade I mean they may need to lock people into high rise towers like they did in China, or lock them up on concentration camps like they did in Australia, or freeze their bank accounts like Canada did, or use Social media to slander and insult anyone who does not go along with them like they did in the US.

Not only so but the vaccine mandate has some nefarious and diabolical purposes. We know it is not safe and effective at protecting someone from Covid. We know that the vaccine caused more deaths and more harm than Covid did. We know that the mandate was illegal and had no scientific justification. And yet the whole world did it and forced it on billions of people. That is not simply a glitch or oversight. Yes, it has caused very significant harm to people, but it is still not clear if it is a kill shot, or if it allows them to convert DNA into a bar code they can read with 5g or if it gives them to ability to just kill people as soon as they no longer need to employ them. But they were also looking for something in the DNA which is why they were testing everyone on the planet. It is hypothesized that they are looking for Nephelim DNA. At the moment these are theories. I have not seen enough evidence to confirm any particular theory. What I have seen enough evidence for is that there was no justification at all to mandate the vaccine, to administer it to billions of people, to continue giving booster shots, and yet everyone did it. That tells me there is a very important reason to do it and they have tried to give us a bunch of excuses, none of which hold water.

 

[Dude653]

I don't understand the question.

Perhaps many of us still have an old world view of war. In Vietnam who went and died? Blue collar Americans killing and being killed by blue collar Vietnamese. Who profited? Elites on the East and West coast of America involved in the military industrial complex. The elites kept their kids out of the war. They make money loaning money in wartime if they are bankers, of making movies about it if they are in Hollywood, or manufacturing and selling arms if they are in the military industrial complex. The same is true in the Iraq wars and in Afghanistan. If they are politicians they don't care what the reason is, just vote for whatever the lobbyists tell them to vote for.

War is no longer a "patriotic" thing. The elites have homes in several countries, they don't see an allegiance to one country. War is about killing off the blue collar workers who vastly outnumber the elites so that the elites can divy up oil fields, or gas fields, or showcase weaponry for sale, or loan money for wars, etc. If no one is fighting they can destabilize countries, and push them into war.

Now what will really give the elites power, real power, "make them the most powerful wizard in the world", will be one world government with one currency, a digital currency. But to do that you will have to persuade the populous to give up all autonomy and power to them. By persuade I mean they may need to lock people into high rise towers like they did in China, or lock them up on concentration camps like they did in Australia, or freeze their bank accounts like Canada did, or use Social media to slander and insult anyone who does not go along with them like they did in the US.

Not only so but the vaccine mandate has some nefarious and diabolical purposes. We know it is not safe and effective at protecting someone from Covid. We know that the vaccine caused more deaths and more harm than Covid did. We know that the mandate was illegal and had no scientific justification. And yet the whole world did it and forced it on billions of people. That is not simply a glitch or oversight. Yes, it has caused very significant harm to people, but it is still not clear if it is a kill shot, or if it allows them to convert DNA into a bar code they can read with 5g or if it gives them to ability to just kill people as soon as they no longer need to employ them. But they were also looking for something in the DNA which is why they were testing everyone on the planet. It is hypothesized that they are looking for Nephelim DNA. At the moment these are theories. I have not seen enough evidence to confirm any particular theory. What I have seen enough evidence for is that there was no justification at all to mandate the vaccine, to administer it to billions of people, to continue giving booster shots, and yet everyone did it. That tells me there is a very important reason to do it and they have tried to give us a bunch of excuses, none of which hold water.

" Looking for nephilim DNA"
That just sounds like tin foil hat conspiracy nonsense
You might be right about Iraq and Afghanistan but with Iran attacking global shipping, and with the US charged with providing most of the security, it's only a matter of time before we go to war with Iran
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[ZNP]

" Looking for nephilim DNA"
That just sounds like tin foil hat conspiracy nonsense
You might be right about Iraq and Afghanistan but with Iran attacking global shipping, and with the US charged with providing most of the security, it's only a matter of time before we go to war with Iran
"

You sound like these people I talked to back in 1980. They laughed at the story of Noah, they said it was a myth. I was studying Geology and they said "if there had been a flood 40 cubits above the highest mountains we would know about it". Well we do know about it. The flood that came out of the Rockies is called "the Great Missoula flood", it was 40 cubits deep, we can know that by the size of the "ripple marks" from the flood. By the time it got to the Columbia gorge the flood was 1,000 feet deep and more water was flowing through the gorge that day than flows through all the rivers on earth today. But they don't call it Noah's flood, they call it "The Great Missoula Flood". Just a deceit. We see the same thing in India, a flood just like this that came down through the Himalayas. You may be familiar with the Ice Age movies where they describe big "Ice dams". That is now the explanation, that as the ice age ended the glaciers melted, formed giant dams that then burst and flooded. The only problem is that the present is the key to the past. We are seeing glaciers melt and retreat throughout the earth and no "ice dams" form.

Instead, a much more plausible theory is that a meteor hit the Indian ocean. This they know is a fact. They can tell you it hit at the end of the ice age from the shells that were thrown up onto Madagascar as 1,000 foot high sand dunes from the Tsunami. They estimate that a huge amount of water was sent into the stratosphere, circled the globe and then came down as a very hot rain. This in turn caused huge flash floods in the mountains and all the glaciated highlands to melt. Perhaps that explains 40 days and nights of rain.

What we do know from 200 different tribes is they all had stories of animals saved in a boat. We also know that virtually all our large domesticated animals (except for Llamas) come from mesopotamia. The story of Noah's flood is not just about a man in a boat saving animals, the oldest Chinese character for boat is "8 souls". That makes no sense until you realize that Noah's ark had 8 souls. We also know that 200 large ungulate species went extinct at the end of the last ice age from all the different continents. The only explanation that is not easily debunked is Noah's ark and the flood. According to Jarred Diamond those animals are why Europeans dominated the world. Horse and oxen were the two most powerful animals right up until WW1 and we got jeeps and tanks.

My point is the story about Noah's ark is true and that story includes Nephelim being a corruption of human and angelic DNA. When God says that Noah was "perfect" he doesn't mean sinless, he means his DNA wasn't corrupted.

When Jesus said "it would be like the days of Noah that includes Angels coming down and mixing their DNA with humans and having Nephilim offspring. Sorry if you are still buying into the lies they spread that Noah was a myth, we have found the ark.

You know there is something very interesting in the story in Genesis. It says Noah pitched the ark within and without. Why? Anyone else would only pitch it without, to keep it from leaking. Why would you pitch it within? That would smell and be sticky and gross. Unless you were God and you knew they would lie about Noah's ark and you wanted to preserve the ark for 5,000 years. BTW they have found the ark. That also explains why it would rest on top of a mountain. If it had come to rest lower down where they could build a house and have a farm they would have cannibalized the ark. Leaving it on top of a mountain to get to lower ground allowed it to be left alone for 5,000 years. God anticipates the liars and puts them all to an open shame.

 

[Dude653]

You sound like these people I talked to back in 1980. They laughed at the story of Noah, they said it was a myth. I was studying Geology and they said "if there had been a flood 40 cubits above the highest mountains we would know about it". Well we do know about it. The flood that came out of the Rockies is called "the Great Missoula flood", it was 40 cubits deep, we can know that by the size of the "ripple marks" from the flood. By the time it got to the Columbia gorge the flood was 1,000 feet deep and more water was flowing through the gorge that day than flows through all the rivers on earth today. But they don't call it Noah's flood, they call it "The Great Missoula Flood". Just a deceit. We see the same thing in India, a flood just like this that came down through the Himalayas. You may be familiar with the Ice Age movies where they describe big "Ice dams". That is now the explanation, that as the ice age ended the glaciers melted, formed giant dams that then burst and flooded. The only problem is that the present is the key to the past. We are seeing glaciers melt and retreat throughout the earth and no "ice dams" form.

Instead, a much more plausible theory is that a meteor hit the Indian ocean. This they know is a fact. They can tell you it hit at the end of the ice age from the shells that were thrown up onto Madagascar as 1,000 foot high sand dunes from the Tsunami. They estimate that a huge amount of water was sent into the stratosphere, circled the globe and then came down as a very hot rain. This in turn caused huge flash floods in the mountains and all the glaciated highlands to melt. Perhaps that explains 40 days and nights of rain.

What we do know from 200 different tribes is they all had stories of animals saved in a boat. We also know that virtually all our large domesticated animals (except for Llamas) come from mesopotamia. The story of Noah's flood is not just about a man in a boat saving animals, the oldest Chinese character for boat is "8 souls". That makes no sense until you realize that Noah's ark had 8 souls. We also know that 200 large ungulate species went extinct at the end of the last ice age from all the different continents. The only explanation that is not easily debunked is Noah's ark and the flood. According to Jarred Diamond those animals are why Europeans dominated the world. Horse and oxen were the two most powerful animals right up until WW1 and we got jeeps and tanks.

My point is the story about Noah's ark is true and that story includes Nephelim being a corruption of human and angelic DNA. When God says that Noah was "perfect" he doesn't mean sinless, he means his DNA wasn't corrupted.

When Jesus said "it would be like the days of Noah that includes Angels coming down and mixing their DNA with humans and having Nephilim offspring. Sorry if you are still buying into the lies they spread that Noah was a myth, we have found the ark.

You know there is something very interesting in the story in Genesis. It says Noah pitched the ark within and without. Why? Anyone else would only pitch it without, to keep it from leaking. Why would you pitch it within? That would smell and be sticky and gross. Unless you were God and you knew they would lie about Noah's ark and you wanted to preserve the ark for 5,000 years. BTW they have found the ark. That also explains why it would rest on top of a mountain. If it had come to rest lower down where they could build a house and have a farm they would have cannibalized the ark. Leaving it on top of a mountain to get to lower ground allowed it to be left alone for 5,000 years. God anticipates the liars and puts them all to an open shame.

What would be the point of finding this nephilim DNA. I've never heard a single person in the scientific community express interest in it or talk about how it's relevant to anything

 

[ZNP]

What would be the point of finding this Nephilim DNA. I've never heard a single person in the scientific community express interest in it or talk about how it's relevant to anything

I don't know the answer to that, what I do know is how carefully and extensively they were supposedly testing for Covid when in reality they were testing DNA. I know that God wiped out the people at the time to try and purge the Nephilim DNA, and I know that Goliath, and Og and a few other giants were Nephilim. It is also thought that the Greek myths were based on the Nephilim and fallen angels.

 

[Dude653]

I don't know the answer to that, what I do know is how carefully and extensively they were supposedly testing for Covid when in reality they were testing DNA. I know that God wiped out the people at the time to try and purge the Nephilim DNA, and I know that Goliath, and Og and a few other giants were Nephilim. It is also thought that the Greek myths were based on the Nephilim and fallen angels.

I think you've gone off the deep end and need to come back to reality
They were testing for covid because we were in the middle of a novel pandemic with a high level of contagion
When was the last time you saw a respiratory illness infect, the entire planet within 3 months?
Not everything has to be some cuckoo conspiracy.

 

[ZNP]

I think you've gone off the deep end and need to come back to reality
They were testing for covid because we were in the middle of a novel pandemic with a high level of contagion
When was the last time you saw a respiratory illness infect, the entire planet within 3 months?
Not everything has to be some cuckoo conspiracy.

The facts are available for anyone who wants to know them.

 

[Dude653]

The facts are available for anyone who wants to know them.

No. Testing for nephilim DNA is not a fact. You just made that up

 

[ZNP]

Proverbs 20:6-13 I wonder what Putin is going to do?

6 Many claim to have unfailing love, but a faithful person who can find?

A lot of people were disheartened by the recent events in the US. But they are missing this key point. At the end of the age the Lord is looking to see if He can find faith. These people who are being slandered and sued yet are still pursuing the truth, those are faithful people. I believe that those who are raptured will be faithful people whom the Lord has found.

7 The righteous lead blameless lives; blessed are their children after them.

You can’t look at your life simply by what you have been able to amass. If you have left a legacy to your children which is a curse you have to consider that. Bernie Madoff was very rich, his kids grew up privileged right until they discovered he was a crook. It was so crushing for his kids to go from privileged elite to despised by one and all that one even committed suicide.

8 When a king sits on his throne to judge, he winnows out all evil with his eyes.

Let’s flip this around, the ones who are winnowing out evil with their eyes are kings. Pelosi, the squad and their ilk did not winnow any evil. They are not kings, they are usurpers. These people doing the investigation whether journalists or lawyers or citizens, they are kings. They have a position, a seat, and they sit on that throne and rule. The way you winnow grain is you take a shovel full and toss it into the air when there is a good breeze and the wind will blow away the chaff. Every day there are journalists like Project Veritas or Revolver or Bannon that are taking a shovel full of grain and tossing it into the air and then with the breath of their reporting they are blowing away the chaff. Four years ago very few people in this country saw the election fraud, today it is closer to 70% or more. A lot of chaff has been blown away. Four years ago no one saw Fauci and the vaccine they were developing as a lie, again since that time a lot of chaff has been blown away.

9 Who can say, “I have kept my heart pure; I am clean and without sin”?

You had better be covered with the blood of Jesus. This is not trivial, if you want to be covered with the Lord’s blood you have to obey the Lord and that includes confessing sins and repenting.

10 Differing weights and differing measures— the Lord detests them both.

The impeachment of Trump is a great example. They impeached Trump for “inciting the riot” because he called for a peaceful protest when in fact you can get quotes from Pelosi, Schumer and Maxine Waters that clearly incite rioting. They impeached Trump for “colluding with Russia” and found that he didn’t yet they ignore the fact that Biden clearly colluded with the Ukraine. Be assured, the Lord detests this.

11 Even small children are known by their actions, so is their conduct really pure and upright?

“Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks”. We can see into your heart by the words you speak. Actions speak louder than words. We can also know your heart by your actions. Right now people are wondering what Putin is going to do. Well, what are his actions? He warned Ukraine, massed troops at the border and then invaded. Following this the US blew up his pipeline, helped Ukraine with weapons and intelligence and sent them over $160 billion in assistance. Russia has warned us, massed troops, tanks and nuclear missiles at the border as well as sending nuclear subs to the US border. I wonder what he is going to do?

12 Ears that hear and eyes that see— the Lord has made them both.

We have the power of observation. You can see a lot if you look.

13 Do not love sleep or you will grow poor; stay awake and you will have food to spare.

This is the warning from the Stop the Steal rallies. Wake up or you will grow poor. We have had over 140 attacks on food processing plants in the US and we have been attacked with a bioweapon and we are being threatened with nuclear war from Putin who has said we were at war with him. If you are awake you will be preparing to meet your God.

 

[ZNP]

No. Testing for nephilim DNA is not a fact. You just made that up

They tested the DNA of everyone in the world, that is a fact. If you want to believe that was because of a nasty cold go ahead, sleep on.

 

[ZNP]

My theory of stupidity

This is a derivative of Bonhoeffer's theory and also from my understanding of the Bible.

First of all stupidity is not ignorance nor am I referring to people of low IQ. Basically I would say that in this case I am referring to those who willfully choose to be ignorant or to follow blindly those who wish to scam them.

My thought is this, when I was in High School and in College and then as a teacher I saw students who cheated. I assumed that the students at the top of the class would not cheat as who are they going to cheat off of, but I soon learned that also was false. Cheating was widespread and prevalent. However, I never saw that it was everyone. Rather if I gave a test without any safeguards against cheating I would expect the majority of students to cheat. Once I gave a test where everyone got the same test, but I switched up the order of the answers. So your answer would be A and for your neighbor it would be B. That caught so many people that I realized if I wanted students to pass my class I needed to make it obvious that the kids had different tests.

Anyway, suppose you got through school or through some classes by copying off of your neighbors papers or by plagiarizing someone. You have gone down a path where you are willfully choosing not to do the work of critical thinking and so are willing to take what someone else says is true as the truth. Scammers understand this. If no one was inclined to cheat scammers would never be able to make a good living.

For example, consider a simple question:

If the vaccine for Covid is safe and effective why are the vaccinated demanding that everyone get vaccinated in order to protect them from getting sick?

That is a reasonable question. If you refuse to do the heavy lifting to critically examine this and instead "defer to the experts" then you are a prime candidate for a scammer. It may be that the "expert" advising you is giving you good advice, but it may also be that the expert is a scammer pretending to help you.

Then there are those who take the absurd rationale that the scammer gives them. I knew of people who were stock brokers scamming people. They would claim that they would only charge a commission when the person sold the stock at a profit. So these people would be so gullible as to believe that. Sure enough when they bought the stock there was no commission charged. The problem was they were buying stock that the stock broker was the market maker. Some times these brokers were paid 40% of the purchase price to sell it to these saps. Who needs 5% of a sale of 100k of stock when you are getting paid 40k on that sale. In the same way morons will think that since they can't see any reason someone would lie that therefore they aren't. That is not critical thinking.

Consider another reasonable question. In all of human history never once has a vaccine to a disease been made in one year that was safe and effective. Not only so but it has always taken over ten years of testing before we have been confident that a vaccine is safe and effective. Based on that why would you assume that this one vaccine is the exception to the rule?

Again, maybe it does turn out to be the exception to the rule, if I don't have evidence that it is safe and effective I also don't have evidence that it isn't. But the burden of proof should be on the drug company to show that it is safe and effective, not on someone who has no access to the research to prove that it isn't. So then why are they attacking and insulting people asking reasonable questions?

Another reasonable question is that in order to mandate an Experimental Use Authorization vaccine you have to fulfill several requirements. They didn't fulfill any of them when they mandated the vaccine. So then the mandate was criminal. Why would someone have to behave in a criminal manner if the vaccine were safe and effective? Why would you trust someone you knew to be a criminal?

So my theory of stupidity is that "as you have done it will be done to you". If you got through school by cheating, then you can't think critically, you are afraid to be exposed as a cheat, and so you have no choice but to continue on this path. That means you do whatever the "experts" tell you without any critical thought.

 

[Dude653]

They tested the DNA of everyone in the world, that is a fact. If you want to believe that was because of a nasty cold go ahead, sleep on.

You need to stop listening to people like Alex Jones

 

[ZNP]

You need to stop listening to people like Alex Jones

I have never listened to an Alex Jones show, not even once. You are so far removed from reality it is a joke.

Four years ago people were speaking just like you, but you know what, Bill Maher has come around, even Rachel Maddow has changed. You see you may not be following the lawsuits on Covid and what is happening around the world but their lawyers are and they realize they are liable. Not this year, but if a few of these lawsuits win and Fauci goes down, then the lawsuits will move on to them.

So useful idiots can continue to go along like nothing has changed thinking they are still spouting the drivel from the MSM and that 70% of Americans agree with them. But the reality is closer to 25%, the useful idiots are still saying the same thing and all those who are liable are now white with fear.

 

[ZNP]

People need to be patient, right now Biden has to focus on this upcoming debate, and then deal with negative polls and people in the party that want him out, and then with the Democratic National Convention, and then the election. I'm sure that if he is elected in November we can expect that dealing with the threat of nuclear war will be at the top of his to do list. Of course if he is not elected he'll still be president for three months. Obviously he could do a lot in that time to undermine our economy and the situation with the war, but that would be petty. Still we can expect that by the end of January it would be on the top of Trump's to do list. Of course he'll need to get his appointments approved, but once that happens you can be sure it will be right up at the top of his list. So as long as Putin, and Xi and all the others can just sit tight for the next 8 months we'll be just fine.

 

[ZNP]

Malaysia, Thailand and Pakistan have joined the BRICS alliance. Japan's banks are dumping US bonds because they are on the brink of bankruptcy. If Japan is forced to join BRICS then S. Korea will be too and then the pressure on Taiwan will be enormous.

 

[gb9]

They tested the DNA of everyone in the world, that is a fact. If you want to believe that was because of a nasty cold go ahead, sleep on.

not mine. never, ever took a covid test.

 

[ZNP]

not mine. never, ever took a covid test.

Doesn't matter, if they tested your kids, your parents, your siblings, your cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. then they have you DNA, not exact, but close.

 

[SilverFox7]

U.S. Strikes Eastern Syria | US Drone Shot Down Near Yemen

I thought that the Pandemic was the start of WW3, then of course I felt the US support for Ukraine with intelligence, weapons, and targeting as well as training was the start. But bombing Iranian weapons depots in Syria and having your drones shot down over international waters near Yemen, and having your military bases attacked 40+ times in Syria, that surely is the start even for the most reluctant historian.

North Korea's unholy alliance with Putin could add a new dimension to this expanding war. He would have no problem using these NK "engineers" as cannon fodder:

Putin would use North Korean troops as ‘cannon fodder,’ US claims – POLITICO