God gave Satan everything and he still wasn't happy. You can't make someone be a slave and while they're being a slave they are happy about it.
Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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Did the person want to be a believer?
If they wake up as one it's against their will if they did not want to be one to begin with.
Perhaps they wanted truth, and life. Can't have one without the other.
They heard enough to bring a change that caused the Holy Spirit to fall upon them.
Jesus said people choose to enter the wide gate or the narrow gate.
They enter it because they ultimately want to go a certain direction.
No one made them.
So how then was it against their will as you have been railing on about?
Not possible. None of our actions will save us. That is why Jesus, and Jesus alone, wears the title of Saviour. Were it as
you suggest, then that would make us saviour, not Christ.
Hearing preceded repenting toward God; Repentance precedes listening; listening precedes believing; believing precedes justification; justification precedes the new heart; the new heart is where the Holy Spirit comes to dwell.
37 Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” 40 And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” 41 So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
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42 And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.
It was a non-answer because you did not address becoming slaves. You simply mentioned entering a gate.
You said perhaps they wanted...
I said then God gave them what they wanted.
But if a person wants the opposite...
God making them saved would be opposite of what they wanted.
There are no actions happening. They heard which causes Faith. Faith causes belief. The Holy Spirit fell upon them when they believed. That is directly what the Bible teaches.
People do seek truth. I will assume that as a universal. And it is a Biblical fact that people fear death. So...
My assumption is well grounded. Your assertion they were forced against their will is not. At. All.
PaulThomson said:
Why does "nearly all possess hearing physically" imply that there must be a spiritual hearing being spoken of? And not everyone has it.
"Everyone who has boarding tickets to board flight NZ 3631, let them board now at gate 7'" Obviously, there are those who have boarding passes for flight NZ 3631 who do not board. Since nearly all people in the Gate 7 waiting area have boarding passes to flight NZ 3631, the announcer must be speaking of spiritual boarding passes.
No. she's talking about physical boarding passes, saying "If you have them, use them now." There are no spiritual boarding passes.
My religious instruction teacher at college used to refer to crass ignorance.
Why does "nearly all possess hearing physically" imply that there must be a spiritual hearing being spoken of? And not everyone has it.
"Everyone who has boarding tickets to board flight NZ 3631, let them board now at gate 7'" Obviously, there are those who have boarding passes for flight NZ 3631 who do not board. Since nearly all people in the Gate 7 waiting area have boarding passes to flight NZ 3631, the announcer must be speaking of spiritual boarding passes.
No. she's talking about physical boarding passes, saying "If you have them, use them now." There are no spiritual boarding passes.
No engagement with the argument, I see.
My religious instruction teacher at college used to refer to crass ignorance.
Wiccans seek the truth through Nature.
Is God going to save them because they are seeking truth when they rejected God and chose nature?
Where does Scripture posit that? The verse says you have become a slave.
Scripture also says you were a slave before, to unrighteousness. You are one or the other.