Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Trump clearly meant it politically and not spiritually. Same as he says with Ukraine. Wouldn't have happened under Trump. It's disingenuous to try to say he was talking spiritually.
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I would agree but Trump could say less IMO

Putin is actually thinking about changing his countrys' outline for the use of Nukes (ie lax applications) and blaming the US fo exprimenting with the small nukes (whatever they are called) when it is Russia doing that
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
So anyone who supported Churchill was because they believed God didn't have the power to save them. Yeah, right. lol
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I've not read of Churchill in the bible.Ive read of what God says about Israel and how God says he will decide if Israel is safe or not.
God has been very clear concerning Israel in the bible.More clear than any other nation.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
Trump clearly meant it politically and not spiritually. Same as he says with Ukraine. Wouldn't have happened under Trump. It's disingenuous to try to say he was talking spiritually.
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No one is saying anything about spiritually


These women being raped in Jerusalem by Israels enemies is not spiritual.
They are literally being raped.



Zech 14
14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped





According to Trump,God can not cause Israels enemies to take Jerusalem and rape those women while he is in office.
 
Trump says israel.shall be safely inhabited while he reigns.

The word of God says Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited after the Lord comes.





Zech 14
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
You sound like a faithful follower of the Donald.


25 The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
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Do you actually understand that all of those Deuteronomy admonitions, curses and punishments and the diaspora have ALREADY come to pass? And that the times of the Gentiles have been in force since 586BC? And that the Old Covenant has been obsolete for 2000years?

Your inculcating these Deuteronomy passages as if they apply to the present are absurd. We are waaaaay past that stage of prophetic history.

Now I do believe that Ezekiel 37 has ALREADY been fulfilled. And that Ezekiel 38 is imminent.
So that's where we are now. 2024. Not early first century. Not 586BC.
 
cv5 said:
Do you actually understand that all of those Deuteronomy admonitions, curses and punishments and the diaspora have ALREADY come to pass? And that the times of the Gentiles have been in force since 586BC? And that the Old Covenant has been obsolete for 2000years?

Your inculcating these Deuteronomy passages as if they apply to the present are absurd. We are waaaaay past that stage of prophetic history.

Now I do believe that Ezekiel 37 has ALREADY been fulfilled. And that Ezekiel 38 is imminent.
So that's where we are now. 2024. Not early first century. Not 586BC.
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The covenant which you say is obsolete is still in force and Jesus said not one jot or tittle would pass away until all is fulfilled.

I find it very interesting that all these verses throughout the law and prophets that people say have passed are in the present tense and not in the past tense.

God is the God of the living and not the dead, His word is to the lilving, not the dead, and the covenant and its promises are to us, not to the dead. Even if things have happened in the past we are told clearly by Paul that they are for our example in the NT.
 
Niki7 said:
I am not in the least worried that Hebrew Roots groups on steroids will be in power or determine who will be in power

They do not seem to believe in God as per scripture, so much as the god in their own minds
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lol, me either. Actually. Because of their plan to transfer Texas over to an Theocracy there exist the,, "fatal flaw",,,which I believe they see because of their actions,,,That is inside the first election cycle after the theocracy is accomplished in Texas,,,And depending on if the Latinos,Hispanics see it coming,lol,,, instantly they went through their efforts to transform Texas into an theocracy and then immediately afterwards as soon as the Hispanic/Latinos see it they will realize that they being Catholic and the majority of the population in Texas vote. It's like a domino effect,, they over throw the Republicans and establish an Theocracy,,,,then they are immediately overthrown by Texas largest population's domination The Catholics ... In defense you stop all immigration and reduce the numbers of voters(Catholic in Texas case) that can seize that power from you...
 
SomeDisciple said:
You mean like Dunn turned the entire state of TX into a Waco? I don't suppose that's impossible, or even necessarily implausible. Dunn is a far more wealthy and sophisticated man than Koresh; but I think Americans in general are more skeptical and sophisticated than we were in the 1990's. I would say "unlikely".
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lol,no Waco and DK is child's play,,,in the states where these guys go they buy thousands of acres of land,,,they are 2-5+ times more wealthy than DT ... Dunn is way more sophisticated but Farris Wilks on the other hand is so laid back you might confuse him for a guy that woks at Walmart(no offense intended but just pointing out it didn't go to his head it seems)...
 
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cv5 said:
Do you actually understand that all of those Deuteronomy admonitions, curses and punishments and the diaspora have ALREADY come to pass? And that the times of the Gentiles have been in force since 586BC? And that the Old Covenant has been obsolete for 2000years?

Your inculcating these Deuteronomy passages as if they apply to the present are absurd. We are waaaaay past that stage of prophetic history.

Now I do believe that Ezekiel 37 has ALREADY been fulfilled. And that Ezekiel 38 is imminent.
So that's where we are now. 2024. Not early first century. Not 586BC.
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So you believe anyone who keeps God'statutes as in deut 28 will not be chosen of God and anyone who brakes God's statutes will have no punishment?
Jesus never taught such things.


Now you say Ezekiel 37 has been fulfilled and God has opened the graves and resurected the dead out of their graves and Messiah reigns in the land of Israel.

Who are you claiming David is in the following verses?Do you teach that Benjamin netanyahu is messiah and Benjamin netanyahu reigns in the land of Israel forever?




Ezekiel 37
24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.





Since you say this has been fulfilled,do you worship Netanyahu as God chosen king of Israel forever?
 
iamsoandso said:
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lol, me either. Actually. Because of their plan to transfer Texas over to an Theocracy there exist the,, "fatal flaw",,,which I believe they see because of their actions,,,That is inside the first election cycle after the theocracy is accomplished in Texas,,,And depending on if the Latinos,Hispanics see it coming,lol,,, instantly they went through their efforts to transform Texas into an theocracy and then immediately afterwards as soon as the Hispanic/Latinos see it they will realize that they being Catholic and the majority of the population in Texas vote. It's like a domino effect,, they over throw the Republicans and establish an Theocracy,,,,then they are immediately overthrown by Texas largest population's domination The Catholics ... In defense you stop all immigration and reduce the numbers of voters(Catholic in Texas case) that can seize that power from you...
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It just keeps getting better
 
Niki7 said:
It just keeps getting better
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Oh yeah, every day it becomes clearer and clearer that Christ Jesus became wisdom to us from God, and righteousness, and sanctification also, and redemption, don't forget that.
 
iamsoandso said:
Yep,,I'm not Catholic but I live in Texas so it has me scratching my head.
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when you are deceived, things that may make others go 'whaaaaa?' seem right to you and you just don't listen because you just KNOW you are right

I think they have some...or maybe quite a bit....of that going on

we all have blinders on at certain times and about certain things, but when you constantly go off in all directions but the right one,
you are on the wrong path
 
Niki7 said:
I would agree but Trump could say less IMO

Putin is actually thinking about changing his countrys' outline for the use of Nukes (ie lax applications) and blaming the US fo exprimenting with the small nukes (whatever they are called) when it is Russia doing that
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Trump has his own way of handling things. If he gets in again, lets see if it works again. I know one thing, they keep this old grey mare in office, we're going to be hit. They see his weakness, the whole world knows it.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
I've not read of Churchill in the bible.Ive read of what God says about Israel and how God says he will decide if Israel is safe or not.
God has been very clear concerning Israel in the bible.More clear than any other nation.
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Yes, Biblically. We're talking politically. They are our ally and yet Biden is not standing with them or supporting them. That is what Trump was saying.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
No one is saying anything about spiritually


These women being raped in Jerusalem by Israels enemies is not spiritual.
They are literally being raped.
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Yes, and that is being ignored by the USA. There isn't a feminist on the scene. They will fight to the death for a mans "right" to wear a tampon but crickets when woman are actually being abused. Like the 13 yr old girl that was just raped by an illegal immigrant. smh


Shilohsfoal said:
According to Trump,God can not cause Israels enemies to take Jerusalem and rape those women while he is in office.
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No, that's not what he is saying. You're putting words in his mouth. He is saying that our job as the USA is to defend our allies. Remember the MOAB?!! He's saying when America acts with strength and leads instead of follows, terrors back off. But when they see a weak, mumbling, stumbling old man, they hit. THAT is what he was saying as the president of the country. He's not a pastor, he wasn't speaking spiritually at all.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Trump says israel.shall be safely inhabited while he reigns.

The word of God says Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited after the Lord comes.
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It's his JOB as president to support our allies!! That's what he is saying he will do. Period. You're talking nonsense.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
Trump has his own way of handling things. If he gets in again, lets see if it works again. I know one thing, they keep this old grey mare in office, we're going to be hit. They see his weakness, the whole world knows it.
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No debating that regarding Trump. If I could vote, I would vote for him....my husband will. Doesn't mean I totally approve of him....
you might agree; I don't know

As far as the fossil goes, his convenience to whoever is really running the show, is probably winding down. They have done just about everything except have a couple of people who move his legs and arms and a ventriloquist to speak for him.

How much juice are they going to have to pump into him for the 27th? And then he gets angry and shouty.

You bet the whole world knows and some countries are salivating while others are scared or puzzled as to why the charade continues sigh

Isn't it fascinating to live in a country with no actual President.....just the Wizard of Oz working it behind the curtain
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Yes, and that is being ignored by the USA. There isn't a feminist on the scene. They will fight to the death for a mans "right" to wear a tampon but crickets when woman are actually being abused. Like the 13 yr old girl that was just raped by an illegal immigrant. smh




No, that's not what he is saying. You're putting words in his mouth. He is saying that our job as the USA is to defend our allies. Remember the MOAB?!! He's saying when America acts with strength and leads instead of follows, terrors back off. But when they see a weak, mumbling, stumbling old man, they hit. THAT is what he was saying as the president of the country. He's not a pastor, he wasn't speaking spiritually at all.
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False,Trump did not say the things you claim.he said.

What he said was that he will keep Israel safe,no one else will,no one else can.

Sounds like he believes he is like God.Ive never heard anyone else claim they can make Israel safe other than God and Trump.
 
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