Trump was the only president that kept his word to Israel. I believe that means something to God and I believe it's the reason they have thrown everything at him but still haven't stopped him.
Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?
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Trump was the only president that kept his word to Israel. I believe that means something to God and I believe it's the reason they have thrown everything at him but still haven't stopped him.
Well maybe I know him better than you do?
Quite likely.
I had an intense prayer session about a year ago that kind of follows on what you said just above. The kind of session that over time has been very rare. I wish I could explain it in all of its intensity, but I can't in a forum. Let's just say that the basic outcome was a view of how bad things are globally. But not just what we see, rather everything underlying, every system, everything. It's all ______!
I'm also finding myself staring out the window in contemplation of how much of what goes on in these "Christian" discussions are part and parcel with what I just said above.
Things are really a mess...
Trump is speaking within a political context, meaning he doesn't think he is Israel's Savior. He means between him and Biden, he is the one who will help Israel.
When one looks for the worst, they generally find it.
Thanks! It's interpreted differently pursuant to different eschatological points of view. I'm not locked into any of it at this time.
JW. Is this a nod toward Trump's conviction(s), handed down to him from the many faces of rulers?
To those that consider the possibility that the degree of impact may differ from person to person. That is, some sins are greater than others. We have two options. One is a cad, and the other is a creep. Solomon was a cad... but it seems that some would rather prevent him from ruling to keep Herod in power. 
I've only done cursory research on the topic; but to me the 7 mountain thing doesn't look like a theocracy push; they definitely want to influence culture/government etc. But that's not inherently nefarious- We all want to, or should want to, have a positive impact on our surroundings.
I haven't really seen anywhere that he (Dunn) is trying to use the power of government to enforce religion on people. The school vouchers stuff doesn't sound bad in theory. Education reform is another thing that has been a long time coming; though I admit it needs to be done with caution .
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an ecumenical wish? the thought of 'Christians' controlling everything does not seem like heaven on earth to me
America is not a theocracy and all power belongs to Christ, not a bunch of people thinking they have the 'right' to something
I'm not meaning all of that to you personally...just responding to the words here...I'm not familiar with that statement from Trump
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I understand. Things are being put into place for a final outcome it would seem
I understand about the discussions also. there is no human that can follow all of what is going on.
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do you have a source for that quote? you state it as an impression....but if only your impression, then that makes a difference
but no I do not believe a human can keep Israel safe....but I would like the source for Trump having said that, if he did
I heard it as a practical statement from someone who viewed Christians as a very large constituency. It really didn't seem to be any more than that.
No hint of anything ecumenical nor theocratic. Just numbers.
I didn't say I saw anything Carter did in scripture.Where did you get Carter from?
Are you wanting me to quotes scripture where God says he will cause Israel's enemies to conquer them or flee from them?
Or are you wanting me to quote Trump claiming he is the only one who keep keep Israel safe?
Or both?
Trump didn't say between him and Biden.He said no one else can keep Israel safe,and he knows ALL THE PLAYERS.
No one else will,and no one else can.
He does, and he knows no one else will support Israel. So if he doesn't get elected, Israel will be without any allies. This is what he was referring to.
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what I don't want, is to receive a smart aleck answer as though I was not worth a proper response....I think you know what I mean as I see you doing this to others as well
here is the post again:
I think that covers both ends of your...uh....sarcasim
now tell me you were not being sarcastic
whatever dude at this point
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ok
I was referring to Christians getting together...sorry I could have worded that better...I meant there would be alot of compromise in such an agreement
my personal thought, is that Trump is not a Christian as we understand a Christian
Perhaps he should watch his mouth then
It sure sounds like he believes he is more than he is.Reminds me of someone I've read about In scripture.
what I don't want, is to receive a smart aleck answer as though I was not worth a proper response....I think you know what I mean as I see you doing this to others as well
here is the post again:
I think that covers both ends of your...uh....sarcasim
now tell me you were not being sarcastic
whatever dude at this point
Ok,which quote are you talking about?
The word of God
Or the word of Trump?
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