No.
Your question was a double negative, but I believe you will understand the answer.
Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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Your question was a double negative, but I believe you will understand the answer.
That God walked in a physical form with Adam.
studier said:
Yes & Yes: NKJ Genesis 3:8 And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
If God would have given sinless Adam what is available to us, how are we in a better estate than sinless Adam?
What have you added to what I said? We agree on what you just posted. Namely, "He has made it possible for us to walk moment by moment with Him and have Christ live in and through us. This is absolute dependence. Some would call it absolute surrender.."
You are misrepresenting studier's argument.
You asked
Cameron143 said:
Just an aside, as you mentioned face-to-face relationship:
Do you believe God was manifest physically in the garden?
Do you believe what Adam and Eve experienced in the garden pre-fall is superior to the indwelling believers experience now?
This was "the first part". The first part was not about the superiority of the experience of Adam to ours. Did you agree, in passing over the first part and focusing only on the second, that God was appearing in physical form to Adam?
I don't believe the Bible is conclusive on this. I don't discount the notion, but I don't believe it is necessarily true either.
I am curious to know what you mean here. I wonder if you believe the natural man has an
inherent ability, without any help from God, to throw over his hostile mindset toward Him.
Since that is an admixture of human viewpoint thinking imposing on what His Word says.
Ephesians 2:8-9
Would you say, since we have the incorruptible eternal Living Word
of God indwelling us, that we have eaten of the Tree of Life?
We are able to fail, but nothing will take us out of either the Father or Son's hand.
1 Corinthians 2:9 ~ No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.
Nothing can "violently snatch" us out. But there are other ways of leaving. John 10:29 "harpazein"
Adam wasn't violently snatched either.
Hebrews 10:26-30
26 For if we sin wilfully after having the knowledge of the truth, there is now left no sacrifice for sins. 27 But a certain dreadful expectation of judgment, and the rage of a fire which shall consume the adversaries. 28 A man making void the law of Moses, dieth without any mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 How much more, do you think he deserveth worse punishments, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath esteemed the blood of the testament unclean, by which he was sanctified, and hath offered an affront to the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said: Vengeance belongeth to me, and I will repay. And again: The Lord shall judge his people.