Jerusalems fall

KALYNA18 · May 12, 2024

Burn1986 said:

The words of The Lord are breathed His breath. God is not a man that he should lie. Bv. Theres an important message of this in the book of revelation. They over came evil by the word and their testimony. Our life is just this a testimony. I've been in churches and temples A man personally told me he never prays never. He dosnt have the time, just gives money. And they said on video they just carry a bible but dont read it. Paying your money is not your ticket to heaven. No debates. God is not a man that he should lie . Bible verse. Theres a great evil going on in places of worship, that no armed guard will stop. Evil is in the heart .

KALYNA18 · May 12, 2024

2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:

Why would that contradict what I wrote? It's perfectly legit that they teach about the Lord Jesus being king over the new Jerusalem and earth. That's part of what every Christian should know throughout the ages. For most of the past 2,000 years, the Jews were not even brought back to Israel yet, so there would have been no thought about them building the temple or their daily animal sacrifices. Until Israel becomes a nation again, there should be no reason for anyone to even think about those things.

But now Israel is a nation, and Jerusalem has been unified. So of course the Jews are going to think about such things.

And the prophecies are being unsealed so that more and more Christians are starting to understand them....

Daniel 12 says that the prophecies will be sealed until our time:

Daniel12:4 But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the time of the end; many will go to and fro, and knowledge will increase.”

The TLB translation makes it even more clear:

Daniel12:4 “But Daniel, keep this prophecy a secret; seal it up so that it will not be understood until the end times, when travel and education shall be vastly increased!”

It means the prophecies will be unsealed at a time when travel and education are more accessible. And we've reached that point.

Doesn't your church ever talk about the end times? Read the books written about the end times? Or read the million posts about the end times on the Internet? Or see the even more millions of videos about the end time on YouTube? It's everywhere. You can't avoid it, lol!

If the Ezekiel 38 war happens, then that would render Islam powerless. So in regard to the Muslim structure over the area where the Jewish temple is suppose to be, I personally think the antichrist wants that Jewish temple to be built (to take over as a god 3-1/2 years later), so he will simply have that mosque destroyed (even if there is no Ezekiel

Pilgrimshope · May 12, 2024

Obedience said:

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:17‬ ‭

In a bible discussion forum what should I do then just claim they are all lost because they don’t agree with me ?

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

My opinions can’t do what his word can
i believe sharing Gods word with people who believe Jesus died for thier sins and inviting them to discuss it , is appropriate in a bu le discussion forum and if I thought the scripture can’t help us I wouldnt bother learning believing or sharing it in a discussion

God is able to reach hearts through his word I believe that .

KALYNA18 · May 12, 2024

Yes true!! Amen. What about the book of Isaiah Chapers 50 51 52 I think those are it takes about the Messiah prophecy About him. No churches are not as proficient In studying the old testament as Jewish scholars.

KALYNA18 · May 12, 2024

KALYNA18 said:

Jesus was an Orthodox JEWISH MAN. HE WASsent to Rabbinical Torah studies. He taught in the synagogue S. They called him Rabboni. And they also called him names insulted spit on the Son of God. humiliation He was pierced with a sword. We now are covered in his word against all fiery darts from evil to quench with the shield of faith. Those spears are still being hurled at us but greater is he the spirit if Christ than the evil that's in this world. By No foe shall Withstand the power of the alrighty . By. THANK YIU ALK FOR SHARING ON HERE BECAUSE I was badly Hit by evil words. God lead you all to connect and I an thankful to share here. The sad thing is this worst . Those who cry out Gid Gid but deny his truth that Jesus is his Son are wells without water unfruitful and just as blasphemous as those who attacked the Messiah Jesus . An eye for an eye is not Our saviors way.

Pilgrimshope · May 12, 2024

KALYNA18 said:

Amen chapter 42 49 66 psalm 2 psalm 22 Daniel 2 Daniel 7 zechariah Ezekiel Moses all the prophets who have ever spoken from the beginning

“and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:20-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

KALYNA18 · May 12, 2024

KALYNA18 said:

Pilgrimshope said:

Theres a great story about David and Saul. David was very humble and Saul persued to kill him for many years. It says that David went to hide in the mountain, that is there as of today, with the same name. He David had a chance to kill saul, when he went into the cave, but honored him as King then. He cut a piece of his robe and then repented and said how could he do that to a king, there was a good message about his Do not be a Saul. Do not be another Goliate, for the end of these people was their pride lifted up, and pride comes before a fall. Goliate mocked God and DAvid, with his wooden slingshot, said, am I a dog that you come here with sticks. David had his head in victory. The book of Samuel is great. living bible t. Lessons to be learned about character from those who are being persecuted.

KALYNA18 · May 12, 2024

I want to thank you for the personal flowers for Mother's day. Your a blessing to many of us here at the residence. Your loving heart may it be blessed. Praying God's protection and the 91 Psalm .

KALYNA18 · May 12, 2024

happy Mother's DaY! Each one of us in our nurturing love, expresses, a kind loving heart. To any living thing. You are all Mother's of tender hands, and lifting smile and a good cup of expresso coffee. God of our FAther Jesus, be with every single one. You are loved and honored by God.

montana123 · May 12, 2024

The woman's appearance has not been altered by the beast.

This is speaking of the 7 years that God is giving the world their way to cause all people that do not love Him to follow the antichrist, and brings Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Lord and Savior, and then He will end sin on earth.

God said He is going to restore the kingdom on earth back to Israel which He will send them 2 witnesses to turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Lord and Savior.

God said He is going to bring the whole house of Israel, all 12 tribes, back to their land, and will leave none of them in the nations anymore, and they shall know the LORD their God from that time forward, and He will never hide His face from them again.

God said He will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Which is the battle of Armageddon when God fights the world and defeats them, and saves Israel.

God said as birds flying He shall defend Jerusalem, and preserve it, which is the 6 day war, 1967. which Israeli fighter pilots paved the way to win that war, and they took control of Jerusalem.

If God preserved Jerusalem, and is going to bring Israel to the truth, and restore the kingdom back to the Hebrews, how can Jerusalem be Mystery Babylon if she is favored by Him, as well as the Hebrews.

Mystery Babylon is not Jerusalem but it is the unified religious system with all religions as part of it which all religions is interpreted by the new age movement.

Which the new age movement interprets the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are evolving to be spiritual, and Jesus evolved to be an ascended master, and there is no personal God, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher.

Which it is obvious that when the Roman Empire embraced Christianity they did not get rid of their pagan, and occult ways, and it became their foundation for the interpreting of scriptures.

Because of that they can sway to go along with the world as they change which is what happens with the Pope and Vatican in the future.

Which Pope Francis elected 72% of the Cardinals so they would be in the majority position to elect the new Pope who will side with the New Age Christ, and support the new age movement interpretation of the Bible.

Which the Pope will be the head of a unified religious system, and the Vatican the headquarters which is the woman Mystery Babylon, the whore.

Which is also testified that the whore is the unified religious system with the scripture of the ten horns that shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Which the 10 horns is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section who will support the New Age Christ.

When the New Age Christ claims to be God the 10 horns will hand their power over to him, and that is how he gets control of the world.

He will claim to be above all that is called God, or is worshipped, so they do not need the unified religious system for it is of no benefit anymore, and they have a higher benefit by the New Age Christ causing them to benefit by evolving to be greater.

If it was speaking of Jerusalem it makes no sense for he will try to rule in Jerusalem so why would they get rid of it.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

This chapter is about the last 7 years when the New Age Christ rules.

God has His hand on Israel, and favors them, and they will never go down.

This is speaking of Israel, and the 12 stars being the 12 tribes of Israel, and the child is the child Christ Jesus.

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The red dragon is Satan who has 7 heads which are the 7 kingdoms on earth.

1. Egypt 2. Assyria 3. Babylon 4. Medo-Persia 5. Greece 6. Roman Empire 7. 10 horn kingdom which shall continue for a short space three and one half years, and then the New Age Christ will rule for three and one half years.

The Bible says that the 8th king, New Age Christ, is of the 7 heads, kings, for those kingdoms were influenced by the devil.

The 10 horns is the physical dominion of the beast kingdom which they shall devour the whole earth, tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Which the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts the world down.

Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece will never have physical dominion again, but their lives were prolonged for a time, and a season, which their ways are still on earth.

All 4 kingdoms show up at the beast kingdom the kingdom of man in its entirety.

Babylon will never have physical dominion again so this is Babylon in spirit which she represents human religion, the occult, and the kingdom of man after she blew the revelation of the God of Israel that He gave them.

Medo-Persia represents physical cruelty in war, and Greece represents human wisdom, and the Roman Empire represents pushing fr power, territory, world domination.

In chapter 12 the crowns are on the heads which is Satan in the spiritual realm deceiving people.

In chapter 13 the crowns are on the heads which is Satan in the physical realm as the New Age Christ deceiving people.

The man child was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne who is Jesus.

The woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The woman fled in to the wilderness where she has a placed prepared of God, and that they should feed her for three and one half years.

Which Israel is protected from physical attack for the first three and one half years for God's plan is to bring Israel to the truth.

Which Paul said that God has not cast away His people that He once foreknew.

And God said if the ordinances of heaven are still in affect, the sun, moon, and stars, then His covenant is still with Israel, and they shall never cease from being a nation.

Continued in next post

montana123 · May 12, 2024

Continued from above post

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

The first 6 trumpets is a warnings to the world to turn to God, and repent of their sins, but after the 6th trumpet the world does not turn to God, and repent, which the transgressors have come to the full, so He gives them the New Age Christ to rule over them.

An example is WW1, did not turn to God, but they set up League of Nations.

After WW2, did not turn to God, but they set up United Nations.

And that pattern will continue with the world trying to solve their problems, and have peace by their own efforts, and in the latter times cutting out a personal God among them.

Some people think this war happened when Lucifer and the angels rebelled against God but it is not that war but a war in the future.

The above atmosphere is considered the first heaven, and Satan has access to the first, and second heaven, which Satan is the prince of the power of the air, so this referring to a war in heaven is where God and the angels dwell which is the third heaven.

War will break out in heaven and Satan and his angels will be cast to earth, and Satan will appear as the New Age Christ to deceive the world to rebel against the truth.

Which the devils will deceive all people who do not love God which is the strong delusion He will send all people who do not love the truth, but have pleasure in unrighteousness.

Which the earth becomes the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Which the earth becomes the holding cell of the devils, and Satan is not the prince of the power of the air anymore.

Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The woman were given 2 wings of a great eagle, so she can fly in to the wilderness in to her place, where she is nourished for the last three and one half years from the face of the serpent.

Which the wilderness is representing she is unknown, cannot be found, which in this instance is Israel is protected for the last three and one half years from physical attack.

The serpent tried to get the woman but failed because the earth helped the woman so she was not attacked.

Satan was mad at the woman, Israel, for providing salvation to mankind who he hates, and wants them destroyed because they are God's creation, and he went and made war with all people that have the testimony of Jesus, and keep the commandments of God because they are saved, and will prosper, and he hates that.

This is speaking of the last 7 years on earth when God gives the world their way for 7 years to cause all people that do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ, and brings Israel to the truth which they are protected for the 7 years period.

It does not say the beast corrupts the woman but the woman is protected for 7 years from physical attack by God.

The woman will escape corruption during the last 7 years for it is God's plan to bring them to the truth, and restore the kingdom to Israel.

Shilohsfoal · May 12, 2024

Scripture does talk about a kingdom being restored ."healed".

Revelation

13 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

So far,no one has been able to defeat that kingdom.Ive seen some say on this board that kingdom is unbeatable.

Shilohsfoal · May 12, 2024

PS
The woman flees into the wilderness the exact same amount of days(1260 days)as the amount the two witnesses occupy Israel.Unlike most people,I see no good in anything those two witnesses do.Im sure if I lived in the beasts kingdom ,I would flee into the wilderness when they arrived as well.
Unless I was Jewish,then I would be imprisoned and killed,I'm sure.

Pilgrimshope · May 12, 2024

montana123 said:

The beautiful woman who appears

“Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations, Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk. I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck. And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head. Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom. And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:2, 8, 10-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the whore who appears with a changed appearance from Beauty to whoredom

“But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: … Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,

Thou hast played the whore also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. Thou hast moreover multiplied thy fornication in the land of Canaan unto Chaldea; and yet thou wast not satisfied herewith. How weak is thine heart, saith the Lord GOD, seeing thou doest all these things, the work of an imperious whorish woman; in that thou buildest thine eminent place in the head of every way, and makest thine high place in every street;

…but as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband! ( he’s been explaining thoer worshipping of false dieties )They give gifts to all whores: but thou givest thy gifts to all thy lovers, and hirest them, that they may come unto thee on every side for thy whoredom.

( th is is why she’s destroyed by the ten horns until his words are fulfilled )

Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the LORD: Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them;

behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness. And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy. And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee naked and bare. They shall also bring up a company against thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their swords. And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and execute judgments upon thee in the sight of many women: and I will cause thee to cease from playing the harlot, and thou also shalt give no hire any more.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:15-17, 28-33, 35-41‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This is one of several prophecies about how God made Jerusalem beautiful and prosperous and renown for her beauty , and tbey rejected him and worshipped idols of the nations around her built altars upon the hills of Jerusalem to the many false dieties tbey worshipped through the ot . And how this took thier beauty away and changed those appearance in his sight from a beloved bride to a whorish woman who commits constant adulteries and also spreads it around to others

i sort of hues read what’s there the prophets make extremely clear who the woman is and what happened to change her apprearance and bring her judgements upon her gain there’s several prophesies just like this repetetive and it speaks of Jerusalem and her abominations of false worship

KALYNA18 · May 12, 2024

Shilohsfoal said:

The Messiah Yeshua Jesus Christ was on the sand of the sea cooking fish. He walked on the waters, calmed the storms, calms our fears, healed, healed and took a few fishes a loaves, and fed thousands with thousands left over. He was crucified as a lamb for the world. fought the good fight against his flesh, when tempted in the desert by the evil one. The devil even told him cast yourself down, your father will send his angels to catch you. He wanted the Son of God to betray his calling to betray the world, as satan did to eve in the garden, he betrayed her with lies, and deceit. Yet he fought till the end, went to hell and declared Victory over spiritual death, and hatred. Why is there love on earth, evil is hatred, jealousy, self love instead of love of God. Moses told them in the hot dry desert, choose this day who's side you are on, the New Testament says the same thing, Choose this day who you will follow. Can't help but feel sorry for the unbelievers.

Pilgrimshope · May 12, 2024

Obedience said:

Yeah but why stop right where it tells you the cause ? Makes it seem like he did it to them arbitrarily

“And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:24-26‬ ‭

KALYNA18 · May 18, 2024

2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:

The picture and the scripture go hand in hand. Put on the whole armor. You know why evil wants to fight so hard against the believers in Christ. We are soldiers and he wants to hurt us, our image who we are in Christ, our confidance, everything. If you read the new testament, it is very evident that evil comes to rob steal and destroy. The tongue is a weapon of destruction comes from the gates of hell, set on fire. A weapon of destruction. Great picture and true true scripture, however, it is also written, NO Weapon formed against you shall prosper, AND No tongue risen up against you, shall prevail, for this is the heritage of the rightous bv. For we are more than a conqueror in Christ Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God the Creator our redeemer from sin and spiritual death. amen.

KALYNA18 · May 18, 2024

Pilgrimshope said:

Right tbey were brought back together from Babylon and the first scattering of thier people both isreal and Judah under the Roman Empire before Jesus came .

when he came they rejected and killed him. Read this carefully and ask who the wicked husbandmen were and what became of then and the kingdom

“Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:

and when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.

Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.

But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.

When the Lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord's doing, And it is marvellous in our eyes?

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭21:33-43‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Im sure you know what that parable is talking about so I don’t think I need to elaborate but that’s my point

osraels kingdom was always co dituonal upon then repenting and returning to thier covenant tbey never did and when God sent the new covenant with Jesus they rejected it and killed him that left them desolate

now however any israelite as an individual not as a chosen and seperwte nation but as an individual can repent and be converted and saved

the earthly nation of Israel ….think of it for a moment they still today reject Christ as messiah Godnis it th at God has blessed them and brought them back to thier nation as they are rejecting him still ?

i mean talk to a faithful Jew about Jesus messiah and find out where thier spirit is on it

bearing fruit. The carnal mind brings death and destruction, but the mind of the Holy Spirit, is peace and life. Soooooo. The fruits of the HOly Spirit are difficult to acquire, no less keep. It is a training, a discipline, a desire to be obiedient to the one we love. The carnal mind is just the human side of man, the flesh, and it's arrogance, it's revenge, and all the nauseating things that make society going down hill, the ugliness and corruption. But the mind of Christ is peace, and life. Good verses makes you want to repent, or run away from the truth.

KALYNA18 · May 18, 2024

Rebellion, and stubborness is as witch craft and they both will have their place in the lake of fire. Rebellion is the carnal self the flesh showing it's stubborness. This verse is in the Old Testament. Religion will not work for you. Relationship will. The ten commandments not only were taken from the white house, but are now no where to be found in many of men's hearts. Gossip, slander, and destroying ones character, is killing. Gone out of the heart.

Pilgrimshope · May 18, 2024

KALYNA18 said:

fruit of the spirit

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:22-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“for the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We want to never look at anyone like they can’t receive this , it’s why we keep spreading Jesus words in the gospel to people so this can happen

“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:24-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If not this can happen using believers belief against them because they aren’t hearing what God said the truth and spirit and life is

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If we just share what Jesus said will save souls and point them towards him to learn we’ve done our work the truth is already there in front of us if we o my will stop resisting and believe he will keep every promise he makes in his words

Jerusalems fall

Senior Member

Senior Member

Well-known member

Senior Member

Senior Member

Well-known member

Senior Member

Senior Member

Senior Member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Banned

Banned

Well-known member

Senior Member

Well-known member

Senior Member

Senior Member

Senior Member

Well-known member