Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?
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All we can see is that Jesus was declaring sins forgiven. If, Jesus was forgiving sins, He would have said from the cross, "I forgive you, you don't know what you are doing." But He asked the Father to forgive them. So, it stands to reason that when Jesus says elsewhere, "Your sins are forgiven you," He was declaring His Father's forgiveness. Otherwise, He could say, "I forgive you." But He doesn't.
I only know the little He has revealed about Himself. You won't convince me to seek out those thing God has hidden, those who try to seek out the hidden things end up like Saul, who went to consult with a witch.
Please don't push witchcraft on me, my God hates it so much that He cast's those who dabble in it to hell
Please don't push witchcraft on me, my God hates it so much that He cast's those who dabble in it to hell
EVERYTHING in the Bible comports with the perspective that the incarnate Son before resurrection was not using His own power to do His works. Jesus clearly states that to be the case in many places. Your position is the one that clashes with the biblical record and denies Jesus' own testimony.
John 5:30 KJV — I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 14:10 KJV — Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 10:32 KJV — Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?"
John 5:30 KJV — I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 14:10 KJV — Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 10:32 KJV — Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?"
Yeah, I studied further about what happens after we're transformed, when the Lord Jesus returns. From what I'm reading, we will still have that free will. God will never take that away. When this is all over and we're transformed, our sanctification is complete. We will no longer have the sin nature.
Romans 8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
So even though we will still have free will forever, from that point on, we will ALWAYS choose to do what pleases God and what is right in His eyes.
1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.
This is our wonderful hope! And it's the reason why I want to endure to the end, no matter what happens to me!
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Jesus has two natures. He had two natures while incarnated and on earth. If you could learn to listen instead of just nay-say while rubs you the wrong way, and not just play your one-string fiddle louder when someone challenges your ideas, you would have realised I have no problem with Jesus having two natures.
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The twelve and the 70 had power/authority to heal the sick, raise the dead and cast out demons. Having power/authority to do something does not mean the power/authority originates in yourself.
Now you can play your special pleading fallacy. card: "Sure, men have to get power/authority from God. But Jesus didn't because...."
Now you can play your special pleading fallacy. card: "Sure, men have to get power/authority from God. But Jesus didn't because...."
Jesus said that He was the light of the world while He was in the world and followed that with the concept of night coming where no one can work which I believe is alluding to his death so when He said, "we must do the work of Him who sent Me while it is yet day" I gather He was speaking of Himself and the Spirit by whom worked through Him.