Urgent: Mom Might Not Make It 🥺

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HealthAndHappiness

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That's really positive news 😃 I pray your mum keeps on improving and gets stronger but not strong enough to really kick you hehe 🥰
That's OK with me. Im used to it and taught martial arts all my life. 😄

I was encouraged that she had so much pent up energy. To me it was a good sign, other than the stress (adrenal hormones.) One BIG concern was loss of muscle / atrophy due to being in bed and unable to breath on her own.

A doctor was threatening to put her on high dose paralytic and intubate again due to her occasional bouts. I said she is improving and still has a combination of many drugs in her system she's reacting to. She's stressed from being semiconscious, in pain needing movement and the drugs flushed out. The Dr was argumentative and disagreed. She's entitled to her opinion, but I no longer want her having anything to do with my mother. She's dangerous.

My brother's turn to watch and guard her until that Dr was off her shift . This morning we saw improvement and took her off the bipab, untied her hands, and started using a nasal cannula instead. Now she is able to cough, talk and feels better! Both lungs are still half full, but improved in my humble opinion.
Thanks to the Lord for His mercy and protection!
 

SunshineGirl

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That's OK with me. Im used to it and taught martial arts all my life. 😄

I was encouraged that she had so much pent up energy. To me it was a good sign, other than the stress (adrenal hormones.) One BIG concern was loss of muscle / atrophy due to being in bed and unable to breath on her own.

A doctor was threatening to put her on high dose paralytic and intubate again due to her occasional bouts. I said she is improving and still has a combination of many drugs in her system she's reacting to. She's stressed from being semiconscious, in pain needing movement and the drugs flushed out. The Dr was argumentative and disagreed. She's entitled to her opinion, but I no longer want her having anything to do with my mother. She's dangerous.

My brother's turn to watch and guard her until that Dr was off her shift . This morning we saw improvement and took her off the bipab, untied her hands, and started using a nasal cannula instead. Now she is able to cough, talk and feels better! Both lungs are still half full, but improved in my humble opinion.
Thanks to the Lord for His mercy and protection!
Wow!!! That's is great to hear how well your mum is improving 😃 Not to good that you and your brother feel the need to have to take it in turns to watch over her. That is really bad. Hopefully that doctor will go off her shift soon and have a few days off so your mum can keep recovering and getting stronger.
Can they drain your mum's lungs? Or is that not an option 🥰
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Wow!!! That's is great to hear how well your mum is improving 😃 Not to good that you and your brother feel the need to have to take it in turns to watch over her. That is really bad. Hopefully that doctor will go off her shift soon and have a few days off so your mum can keep recovering and getting stronger.
Can they drain your mum's lungs? Or is that not an option 🥰
Only a little bit at a time with a dangerous suction tube. It went all the way into the lungs. With the hand held wand it's safer, but still high risk. She has to cough it up first and her cough muscles are very weak.
She's back on the mask again because her saturation dropped severely.
 

SunshineGirl

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Only a little bit at a time with a dangerous suction tube. It went all the way into the lungs. With the hand held wand it's safer, but still high risk. She has to cough it up first and her cough muscles are very weak.
She's back on the mask again because her saturation dropped severely.
I pray that her muscles in her throat get stronger and she can get rid of it on her own 🥰 You watch the Lord work and keep believing 🥰
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Dear friends,

I just had a conference with the Dr.
Mom's respiration/ breath frequency is high .
41 currently with the BIPAP respirator.
The hazard is being able to have the strength to keep going with that.
The doctor said she expects her to have to be intubated again tonight.

Please pray that she won't need that, but will get to sleep/ rest while keeping up O2 saturation with No need for intubation.

I talked to the respiratory therapist and we are trying a better fitting mask and putting her on her in a different bed angle.
 

SunshineGirl

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Dear friends,

I just had a conference with the Dr.
Mom's respiration/ breath frequency is high .
41 currently with the BIPAP respirator.
The hazard is being able to have the strength to keep going with that.
The doctor said she expects her to have to be intubated again tonight.

Please pray that she won't need that, but will get to sleep/ rest while keeping up O2 saturation with No need for intubation.

I talked to the respiratory therapist and we are trying a better fitting mask and putting her on her in a different bed angle.
Still praying for you all. Praying for healing for your mum and for the Lord to keep you strong. Keep looking to Jesus friend he is always with you 🥰
 

HealthAndHappiness

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April 4, noon update.

Mom was doing pretty good at home on her own, mostly independent, preparing her own meals, bathing herself, even cleaning her bathroom. By all appearances, he was doing OK until she was napping on her couch and fell off. Someone took her for x-rays and it showed a cloudy occluded lung. They said it was aspiration pneumonia, clear sputum , numbers, etc showed no infection.

Next is admission to the hospital.
I was unawares where she was until my brother's panic mode of finally telling me that she might die! She was put on umpteen meds at this point, all powerful and dangerous alone, even moreso combined.
Intubation, etc .

Yesterday, she's improving, on nasal cannula and Bipap 4 hours on/ off.
I picked the brain of a kindly new respiratory therapist and decided to try a couple of simple therapies and changes as I had some prior exposure with CHF and Cistic Fibrosis patients. She had a very good suggestion as well. After our meeting, she and the other therapist applied them. There were significant improvements. She was feeling better, breath steadily and able to communicate more coherently.
That was hopeful yesterday and last night.

I talked with the respiratory therapist trying to find out how the seal/ fit of the current Bipap mask could be improved. It set off an awful alarm that kept disturbing her sleep. The lady turned it down in her room, but was able to get notifications at her work station in the hall. She changed the mask size to one that fit her better, that equipment quit signalling that bad leak and hurting her nose.

I prayed for God to help her respiration because it was getting fast and she needed restful sleep to recouperate. Immediately she started rattling and coughing. The nurse then suctioned that off and her respiration lowered and the O2 was very good. No doubt it was the Lord helping immediately. ALL glory and praise to Him alone, Who holds her life in His hand!
Right away, her respiration went down towards normal! Is that a coincidence?
No, it was our Father at work, intervening by kindly touching her body.

There's only one allowed to sleep in her room I overnight per the hospital rules. My bro had the full lay down recliner and my chair was just too hard. She seemed well, so I asked him to get me if there was anything of concern or change. 3 Short hours later in ICU waiting room, I decided to go check on her.
I approached her room and a code was in progress for emergency RE- intubation!

I spoke to the Doc and he suggested that she should be let die because of age, COPD, and that her O2 dropped temporarily with exertion as someone was using suction with a simple nasal cannula in place.

The doctor the night before recommended a tracheostomy for removing phlegm sooner than later. The one this morning recommended not to do that, but to let her die. He gave the worse case scenario of absolutely bad likelihood of quality of life requiring permanent 24/7 care in a rehab and nursing facility.

The fact of the matter is that nobody thought she was ready to die prior to the hospitalization. It's clear that she needs help with her lungs. The other thing that's clear is what is coming up.
I've seen many miracles in my family, including my brother that I didn't give up on.
God gave him a full life and family.
He personally gave up on Mom and knows that the outcome would be heavy sedation until death.

Reminds me of a dog we (Mom) once had.
The vet found a stomach tumor.
I studied a world renowned veterinarian and ND since I was a kid. I learned something that actually alleviated our dogs symptoms and I saw an immediate response to my application. The dog had the energy of a puppy that we had not seen in years! My protocol was very easy and simple.
He saw the improvement as did Mom.
She was taken to be put down.

The Lord is her only hope.



PS: Just met with the PA Physician Assistant.
She tried her best to provide zero hope of recovery. She said NO hope to get better if in a full care facility of ever going home. She said there's no way Mom can leave here without a gastric feeding tube and trach for breathing. She assured me very coldly that she will die today. She will come around when my brother gets here to talk us into that. He has already decided.

Please pray as this might be the end.
 

Louie3915

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April 4, noon update.

Mom was doing pretty good at home on her own, mostly independent, preparing her own meals, bathing herself, even cleaning her bathroom. By all appearances, he was doing OK until she was napping on her couch and fell off. Someone took her for x-rays and it showed a cloudy occluded lung. They said it was aspiration pneumonia, clear sputum , numbers, etc showed no infection.

Next is admission to the hospital.
I was unawares where she was until my brother's panic mode of finally telling me that she might die! She was put on umpteen meds at this point, all powerful and dangerous alone, even moreso combined.
Intubation, etc .

Yesterday, she's improving, on nasal cannula and Bipap 4 hours on/ off.
I picked the brain of a kindly new respiratory therapist and decided to try a couple of simple therapies and changes as I had some prior exposure with CHF and Cistic Fibrosis patients. She had a very good suggestion as well. After our meeting, she and the other therapist applied them. There were significant improvements. She was feeling better, breath steadily and able to communicate more coherently.
That was hopeful yesterday and last night.

I talked with the respiratory therapist trying to find out how the seal/ fit of the current Bipap mask could be improved. It set off an awful alarm that kept disturbing her sleep. The lady turned it down in her room, but was able to get notifications at her work station in the hall. She changed the mask size to one that fit her better, that equipment quit signalling that bad leak and hurting her nose.

I prayed for God to help her respiration because it was getting fast and she needed restful sleep to recouperate. Immediately she started rattling and coughing. The nurse then suctioned that off and her respiration lowered and the O2 was very good. No doubt it was the Lord helping immediately. ALL glory and praise to Him alone, Who holds her life in His hand!
Right away, her respiration went down towards normal! Is that a coincidence?
No, it was our Father at work, intervening by kindly touching her body.

There's only one allowed to sleep in her room I overnight per the hospital rules. My bro had the full lay down recliner and my chair was just too hard. She seemed well, so I asked him to get me if there was anything of concern or change. 3 Short hours later in ICU waiting room, I decided to go check on her.
I approached her room and a code was in progress for emergency RE- intubation!

I spoke to the Doc and he suggested that she should be let die because of age, COPD, and that her O2 dropped temporarily with exertion as someone was using suction with a simple nasal cannula in place.

The doctor the night before recommended a tracheostomy for removing phlegm sooner than later. The one this morning recommended not to do that, but to let her die. He gave the worse case scenario of absolutely bad likelihood of quality of life requiring permanent 24/7 care in a rehab and nursing facility.

The fact of the matter is that nobody thought she was ready to die prior to the hospitalization. It's clear that she needs help with her lungs. The other thing that's clear is what is coming up.
I've seen many miracles in my family, including my brother that I didn't give up on.
God gave him a full life and family.
He personally gave up on Mom and knows that the outcome would be heavy sedation until death.

Reminds me of a dog we (Mom) once had.
The vet found a stomach tumor.
I studied a world renowned veterinarian and ND since I was a kid. I learned something that actually alleviated our dogs symptoms and I saw an immediate response to my application. The dog had the energy of a puppy that we had not seen in years! My protocol was very easy and simple.
He saw the improvement as did Mom.
She was taken to be put down.

The Lord is her only hope.



PS: Just met with the PA Physician Assistant.
She tried her best to provide zero hope of recovery. She said NO hope to get better if in a full care facility of ever going home. She said there's no way Mom can leave here without a gastric feeding tube and trach for breathing. She assured me very coldly that she will die today. She will come around when my brother gets here to talk us into that. He has already decided.

Please pray as this might be the end.
I’m so sorry you are going through this. I pray the Lord will comfort you and your family and your mother.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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How is your Dear Mother doing?

Friday Night Update:

Her vitals are good.
Her last chest x-ray showed an 80% improvement.
I don't know what the one doctor was looking at when he said her leg was blue?
The circulation is great from head to toes.
She was on a nasal cannula and they were suctioning, probably blocking her airway as she struggled. Her O2 saturation dropped to 71% briefly, so he decided to reintabate.
The doc was wrong so far, but another hospital managed to kill my father the morning I was having him transfered out, some years ago.
That more than concerns me.

Hopefully, my brother will be on the same page with me and perhaps we can get her weaned out of the ICU asap. The longer she's Intubated, the weaker she becomes.

I appreciate your prayers so much Maggie!
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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She said NO hope to get better if in a full care facility of ever going home. She said there's no way Mom can leave here without a gastric feeding tube and trach for breathing. She assured me very coldly that she will die today. She will come around when my brother gets here to talk us into that. He has already decided.

Please pray as this might be the end.

Never listen to doctors, they don't know everything. They go by what they see, but we go by FAITH. A friend of the family was told she has cancer and left her to die. Her family and friends got to praying and the cancer is shrinking! Hold to God's unchanging hand! Don't give up or give in. God is still in the healing business!!.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Never listen to doctors, they don't know everything. They go by what they see, but we go by FAITH. A friend of the family was told she has cancer and left her to die. Her family and friends got to praying and the cancer is shrinking! Hold to God's unchanging hand! Don't give up or give in. God is still in the healing business!!.
That's absolutely right! Thanks for the reminder.
My Dad told me that after God brought him back to life and healed his traumatic brain injury. The doctor's said he would be a vegetable the rest of his life. The doctor destroyed a family and I trust them not. Only the great Physician.
 

SunshineGirl

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Never listen to doctors, they don't know everything. They go by what they see, but we go by FAITH. A friend of the family was told she has cancer and left her to die. Her family and friends got to praying and the cancer is shrinking! Hold to God's unchanging hand! Don't give up or give in. God is still in the healing business!!.
Amen to this 🥰
 

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...but by the grace of our Lord.
My Mom was admitted to a hospital and I just learned that she had aspirated/ something went down her lung. She is in ICU now because a nurse gave her a pill that also compounded the problem to a life threatening state. She came for help and is worse now because the pill went down the wrong way and now she's low in Oxygen, scared and they are offering to put a suction device in her lung and intubation.
Please furvently pray.

Thank you.
I like to be specific in my prayers. if it's ok what is your moms name. The reason I ask is jesus example of raising Lazarus. if he would have just said come forth whole family plot would have risen. But he said Lazarus come forth.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Saturday morning update.

I was awakened by an alarm and saw Mom sitting up in bed. She was gurgling and needed suctioned. The nurse came in the room and went to get a sedative.
I told her that she didn't need the sedative , but a suction because I can hear her lungs.
Another nurse came in and took care of that.

Her respiration has improved quite a lot, but the mucus is no longer clear, but red. That indicates trauma from the new intubation scraping the pulmonary lining and perhaps an infection. They got the most recent culture / sensitivity test from the lab and sad to say, they introduced a hospital super bug, MERSA.
I believe that Dr who re-intubated, (inserted tube into the lung), was mistaken. He should have waited to see how she faired with the mask and nasal cannula instead of overreacting and giving her MERSA with his filthy hands during his procedure.

I am praying and hoping that her strength will return. Last night her respiration was lowest it's been AND UNASSISTED by the ventilator. She's breathing on her own with great O2 and CO2 exchange. Vitals very good!
The Lord is answering our prayers.
My latest concern is that infection he gave her.

God bless you all and your precious families!