Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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Aspirated vowels. In addition to these aspirated consonants, the vowels and diphthongs in Greek can also be aspirated - and they are much easier to pronounce than aspirated consonants. It is very easy to add a breathing ("h" sound) to the beginning of a vowel. We have aspirated vowels in English too, like in these words: hat, hello, hiss, hold, hug, hi, hay, hook, and so on.
Breathing marks. In Greek, there is not a letter "h" which is used to indicate aspiration like we do in English. Instead, the aspiration is shown by a little breathing mark. There are actually two kinds of breathing marks:
smooth breathing: indicates no aspiration - this sign looks just like an apostrophe markἀ ἐ ἰ ὀ ὐ ἠ ὠ αἰ εἰ οἰ υἰ αὐ εὐ οὐrough breathing: indicates aspiration - this sign looks like a backwards apostrophe markἁ ἑ ἱ ὁ ὑ ἡ ὡ αἱ εἱ οἱ υἱ αὑ εὑ οὑ
For every single word in Greek that begins with a vowel or a diphthong, there must be a breathing mark. There is either a smooth breathing mark or a rough breathing mark. So far, these breathing marks have not been written with the names that you have seen, but now you need to get used to the breathing marks!" http://www.mythfolklore.net/bibgreek/alphabet/tips_aspiration.htm
Breathing marks. In Greek, there is not a letter "h" which is used to indicate aspiration like we do in English. Instead, the aspiration is shown by a little breathing mark. There are actually two kinds of breathing marks:
smooth breathing: indicates no aspiration - this sign looks just like an apostrophe markἀ ἐ ἰ ὀ ὐ ἠ ὠ αἰ εἰ οἰ υἰ αὐ εὐ οὐrough breathing: indicates aspiration - this sign looks like a backwards apostrophe markἁ ἑ ἱ ὁ ὑ ἡ ὡ αἱ εἱ οἱ υἱ αὑ εὑ οὑ
For every single word in Greek that begins with a vowel or a diphthong, there must be a breathing mark. There is either a smooth breathing mark or a rough breathing mark. So far, these breathing marks have not been written with the names that you have seen, but now you need to get used to the breathing marks!" http://www.mythfolklore.net/bibgreek/alphabet/tips_aspiration.htm
Right. So, when Jesus says "THIS is the work of God hina SO THAT you may believe on the one He sent", THIS is done so that we may believe in Jesus. What does THIS refer back to?
Answer : "John 6:27Labour... for that meat which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give to you."
Labouring for that meat which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give to you is the work of God, so that you may believe on the one He sent.
Answer : "John 6:27Labour... for that meat which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give to you."
Labouring for that meat which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give to you is the work of God, so that you may believe on the one He sent.
I disagree
he told them not to do what they did. The labored to come to him because they got fed the day before. Now they want to be fed again. He told them not to work just for food that perished but if you’re going to work. Work for food that endures forever.
Then then asked him what work can we do. As with all legalisms then want a guideline. Tell me the list so I can know I am on the right track!! Jesus turned it back and said it not your work that saves you it’s Gods work
How do we labor however for this food?
1 come to me vs 35
2. Believe in me vs 35
3. See the son and believe vs 40
4. Believe vs 47
5. Eat the bread from heaven (food which endures forever vs 51
6. Eat flesh vs 53
7. Drink blood vs 53
8 eat bread vs 58
Intersti g enough the word translated eat is Esther. It means to destroy to devour to consume. He is saying don’t just taste it take it all in gnaw on it. Determine everything in it to Consider if it is good or not.
Again as he said. Some do Not believe. So God has determined they will not come To him (vs 65)
they are and they hear but they can’t see or hear. They harden their heart because they are not laboring for the food which endures forever. They just want fed with what they want to hear. The truth means nothing to them
he told them not to do what they did. The labored to come to him because they got fed the day before. Now they want to be fed again. He told them not to work just for food that perished but if you’re going to work. Work for food that endures forever.
Then then asked him what work can we do. As with all legalisms then want a guideline. Tell me the list so I can know I am on the right track!! Jesus turned it back and said it not your work that saves you it’s Gods work
How do we labor however for this food?
1 come to me vs 35
2. Believe in me vs 35
3. See the son and believe vs 40
4. Believe vs 47
5. Eat the bread from heaven (food which endures forever vs 51
6. Eat flesh vs 53
7. Drink blood vs 53
8 eat bread vs 58
Intersti g enough the word translated eat is Esther. It means to destroy to devour to consume. He is saying don’t just taste it take it all in gnaw on it. Determine everything in it to Consider if it is good or not.
Again as he said. Some do Not believe. So God has determined they will not come To him (vs 65)
they are and they hear but they can’t see or hear. They harden their heart because they are not laboring for the food which endures forever. They just want fed with what they want to hear. The truth means nothing to them
Well said. 
Reminds me of an old post where I'd put an article covering this subject:
Post #139 - https://christianchat.com/threads/i-cannot-understand-the-need-for-the-crucifixion-and-i-think-it’s-holding-my-christian-life-back.194728/post-4370250
Reminds me of an old post where I'd put an article covering this subject:
Post #139 - https://christianchat.com/threads/i-cannot-understand-the-need-for-the-crucifixion-and-i-think-it’s-holding-my-christian-life-back.194728/post-4370250
The atonement - John 6:37-40, John 10:26-29.
