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I amdit he can be a bit rash but you haven't watched his journey as I have we all have weaknesses that we do not grow in as much but he is on the right path how easy is it to go according to what we ourselves believe? how easy to use the word of
god according to our own doctrine and understanding? but like Jesus one who speaks the kingdom will not be recieved by many
Jesus went against the norm he was mocked ridicualed called a false prophet and teavher ;likewise anyone who knows the kingdom will be treated the same way
Is not common for people to use the word of God yet there is so much division and strife? do you see unity do you see bretheren building strenghtening drawing each other deeper in Christ?
Or do you see division this aspect of doctine what we believe compared to what others do?
If I am not mistaken there is only one truth compared to the enmy who knows better than anyone to win a war you confuse divide and conquor
god according to our own doctrine and understanding? but like Jesus one who speaks the kingdom will not be recieved by many
Jesus went against the norm he was mocked ridicualed called a false prophet and teavher ;likewise anyone who knows the kingdom will be treated the same way
Is not common for people to use the word of God yet there is so much division and strife? do you see unity do you see bretheren building strenghtening drawing each other deeper in Christ?
Or do you see division this aspect of doctine what we believe compared to what others do?
If I am not mistaken there is only one truth compared to the enmy who knows better than anyone to win a war you confuse divide and conquor
Yes I would agree.
I think this idea of the condition of man as being unable to respond to hearing and responding to the Gospel message is not scriptural and superimposed on scripture.
You can pull out any scripture and I pretty sure it can be "deCalvinized" and understood within its proper meaning of the greater context.
And sadly, some who follow the five tenets of tulip are pretty open about God hating those whom are not His elect.
I think this idea of the condition of man as being unable to respond to hearing and responding to the Gospel message is not scriptural and superimposed on scripture.
You can pull out any scripture and I pretty sure it can be "deCalvinized" and understood within its proper meaning of the greater context.
And sadly, some who follow the five tenets of tulip are pretty open about God hating those whom are not His elect.
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@GRACE_ambassador is actually a true spirit filled person
if you trust me please believe me and calling people msrked calling them the enemy of God id not the truth I know more thanyone what it is to be ayyacked but I still call for unity I drrk Gods love and will not hesitate to admit my wrong doings yopu have dealt with the reality of the state of the church but calling people ugly speaking of your reputation thid id not the kingdom you will not bring others deeper into Christ in Christ this way only cause more strife
The motive of why we are online is far more important look to Jesus see how he taught see how he reacted to those who tried to stone him
You will be met with such people you will be attacked mocked called names but how one responds shows the spirit they have
if you trust me please believe me and calling people msrked calling them the enemy of God id not the truth I know more thanyone what it is to be ayyacked but I still call for unity I drrk Gods love and will not hesitate to admit my wrong doings yopu have dealt with the reality of the state of the church but calling people ugly speaking of your reputation thid id not the kingdom you will not bring others deeper into Christ in Christ this way only cause more strife
The motive of why we are online is far more important look to Jesus see how he taught see how he reacted to those who tried to stone him
You will be met with such people you will be attacked mocked called names but how one responds shows the spirit they have
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right ok buddy well seeing as it's you , all tho you did cross a line with me, dont cross that line again, and support parent bashers.
Genesis 3
12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
What Adam and eve did whilst they where dead in there trespasses was they told the truth to the lord.
Which means they still had the truth in them.
This means because they spoke the truth to the lord they where deserving of the lord clothing them and loving them,
Whilst satan in his fallen state no longer has the truth in him
Genesis 3
12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
What Adam and eve did whilst they where dead in there trespasses was they told the truth to the lord.
Which means they still had the truth in them.
This means because they spoke the truth to the lord they where deserving of the lord clothing them and loving them,
Whilst satan in his fallen state no longer has the truth in him
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James 5:19-20 (NKJV): "Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins." James highlights the life-saving impact of correcting error and guiding someone back to the truth. It presents the act of pointing out error as an expression of care and concern for the spiritual state of others.
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These passages collectively illustrate that believers are indeed called to lovingly and carefully address error within the community, always aiming for the restoration and spiritual health of the individual. This responsibility is carried out within the context of a commitment to truth, love, humility, and the ultimate goal of salvation. It's important that such correction is done in a spirit of gentleness, respect, and love, reflecting the character of Christ.
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------------For the General Audience. We have so much error rampant through this forum. Hopefully every believer listens.------------
Believers have a responsibility to point out error and guide others towards truth as part of their commitment to love, truth, and the spiritual well-being of the community. This responsibility is rooted in the broader biblical commands to love one's neighbor, to pursue righteousness, and to be agents of reconciliation and truth in the world. Several passages throughout the New Testament underscore this aspect of Christian duty: (We are called to love one another even when we disagree. Perhaps we can take a step back and approach ALL conversation with a spirit of humility and respect. While we may have different interpretations (The Word of God is the only true Interpretation), it's important to remember that God calls us to unity and love. Let's focus on those shared values in ALL discussions.)
Galatians 6:1 (NKJV): "Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted." This verse emphasizes the responsibility of believers to help restore those who have fallen into sin. The approach should be characterized by gentleness and self-awareness, highlighting the importance of humility and care in correcting others.
Matthew 18:15-17 (NKJV): "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector." Here, Jesus provides a process for addressing sin within the community, emphasizing the importance of private correction and the goal of reconciliation. It shows a structured approach to pointing out error, with the ultimate aim of restoration.
2 Timothy 4:2 (NKJV): "Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching." Paul instructs Timothy—and by extension, all believers—to be diligent in teaching the truth of God's Word, which includes correcting errors and encouraging right living. This exhortation underscores the role of Scripture in guiding the process of correction and the need for patience and dedication in this task.
James 5:19-20 (NKJV): "Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins." James highlights the life-saving impact of correcting error and guiding someone back to the truth. It presents the act of pointing out error as an expression of care and concern for the spiritual state of others.
with meekness and fear: The manner in which believers are to defend their faith is critically important. "Meekness" suggests gentleness and humility, indicating that our defense should not be aggressive or confrontational but characterized by the humility that comes from understanding that our faith is a gift from God. "Fear" in this context refers to a deep respect or reverence for God, reminding believers that their ultimate accountability is to Him. This respectful approach ensures that the conversation about faith honors God and respects the dignity of the person asking.
These passages collectively illustrate that believers are indeed called to lovingly and carefully address error within the community, always aiming for the restoration and spiritual health of the individual. This responsibility is carried out within the context of a commitment to truth, love, humility, and the ultimate goal of salvation. It's important that such correction is done in a spirit of gentleness, respect, and love, reflecting the character of Christ.
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Keep in mind.
The Lord allows for things to take its course as well.
In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church,
there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it.
No doubt there have to be factions among you to show which
of you have God’s approval." 1 Cor 11:18-19
grace and peace ...............Just an fyi, God may have helped some along when the Gospel message was being revealed in the time of Jesus, presently people have the capabilities to hear and perceive the message without divine intervention.
3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
1 Timothy 2:3-6
3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
1 Timothy 2:3-6
Do did Adam and speak the truth here or not.
Genesis 3
12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
What Adam and eve did whilst they where dead in there trespasses was they told the truth to the lord
Did they speak the truth here or not.
Genesis 3
12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
What Adam and eve did whilst they where dead in there trespasses was they told the truth to the lord
Did they speak the truth here or not.
