Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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You cant hear the Gospel Spiritually without being born again, regenerated. Faith is fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22
Jesus tells us who hears the words of God Jn 8:47 and some cant
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
Jesus tells us who hears the words of God Jn 8:47 and some cant
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
They aren't a legitimate part of the Bible text, so why have them in there? They are reference numbers only.
Depending on whom you believe, chapters and verses (versification) were added to the Bible somewhere around the 13th or 14th Century. There are no chapter or verse numbers on the Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek texts.
Depending on whom you believe, chapters and verses (versification) were added to the Bible somewhere around the 13th or 14th Century. There are no chapter or verse numbers on the Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek texts.
You cant hear the Gospel Spiritually without being born again, regenerated. Faith is fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22
Jesus tells us who hears the words of God Jn 8:47 and some cant
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
And it has nothing to do with ethnicity, but a persons spiritual condition before regenerated, no matter ethnicity, all by nature are under sin and dead spiritually.
Jesus tells us who hears the words of God Jn 8:47 and some cant
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
And it has nothing to do with ethnicity, but a persons spiritual condition before regenerated, no matter ethnicity, all by nature are under sin and dead spiritually.
Those Gentiles heard because they were God's elect. But non-elect Gentiles cannot hear any more than non-elect Jews. No unregenerate sinner can hear because all the unbelieving Jews and Gentiles are spiritually DEAD! What part of "dead" can't you understand? Or do you you not understand the definition of "metaphor"?
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In other words, you cannot believe the scriptures. And I take it that you're a Gentile, right? 
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The action that was completed "in the past" was in eternity "past" when God sovereignly decreed who his elect would be... and would not be by logical inference, since he chose to not have mercy and compassion on them, as he did with the former group.
Absolutely false! The Bible doesn't teach it, period. You are maligning the very character of God. God did not create a people for destruction. You're calling God a liar. I wouldn't want to stand in that place if I were you.
Pure unadulterated nonsense! Have you never read:
Prov 16:4
4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil ?
KJV
13 Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,
I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
Woah horse are you saying God creates evil? Let's start at square one.
Is that what you think the text says? I know I certainly didn't say that?
Ok, that was the start of the convo. Now if you believe there is an elite, you believe God created a people for destruction. So why did you say you don't?
When I hear/read that God created a specific people to save and the rest to die it reminds me of Hitler's REICHSTAG SPEECH
We must once and for all get rid of the opinion that the Jewish race was only created by God for the purpose of being in a certain percentage a parasite living on the body and the productive work of other nations.
Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.
We must once and for all get rid of the opinion that the Jewish race was only created by God for the purpose of being in a certain percentage a parasite living on the body and the productive work of other nations.
Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.
I didn't make it up. Do you really believe that all the Gentile people in Acts 10 were not chosen by God to hear and believe the Gospel?
Do you believe the Gentile people in Acts 10 were not the kind of people Jesus spoke of in Jn 10:16?
And did not Jesus say in the above passage that these other sheep "WILL listen to my voice"?
Did not Cornelius and his house full of people do just than when Peter preached the gospel to them?
Why can't you connect the dots here?
Do you believe the Gentile people in Acts 10 were not the kind of people Jesus spoke of in Jn 10:16?
And did not Jesus say in the above passage that these other sheep "WILL listen to my voice"?
Did not Cornelius and his house full of people do just than when Peter preached the gospel to them?
Why can't you connect the dots here?