Predestination is misunderstood...

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Genez

Genez

Junior Member
#2,261
Oct 12, 2017
2,775
407
83
#2,261
Magenta said:
Eh? That is a logical fallacy.
Click to expand...
Did you not will to post that? God gave you that authority in using your will.

Sometimes I think that hyper-Calvinism was a back door attack upon logic done in the name of being logical.
 
Cameron143

Cameron143

Well-known member
#2,263
Mar 1, 2022
18,893
6,488
113
62
#2,263
Genez said:
1 John 1:9....

​
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."​


....and we have?


just
/jəst/
adjective

Based on or behaving according to what is morally right and fair.


What is the synonym of just?

upright; equitable, fair, impartial ​


I said that just to be fair....

grace and peace ...............
Click to expand...
That's my point. God has not dealt equitably with all people. Some are wealthy, some poor. Some are educated, some not. Some have abundant opportunities, some not. Until the new covenant, salvation itself was largely available to only Israel.
On the other hand, God is always just in His dealings with mankind. He deals with all evenly in the exercise of His justice.
 
Magenta

Magenta

Senior Member
#2,264
Jul 3, 2015
59,815
29,194
113
#2,264
Genez said:
Did you not will to post that? God gave you that authority in using your will.

Sometimes I think that hyper-Calvinism was a back door attack upon logic done in the name of being logical.
Click to expand...
Just because God has an attribute or ability to do something does not automatically equate
into us being able to be or do the same thing simply because we are made in His image.

If you honestly think it does, there is something really wrong with your theology.

And Calvinism, hyper or otherwise, has zero to do with it.

In fact you saying so is just another logical fallacy.
 
Cameron143

Cameron143

Well-known member
#2,266
Mar 1, 2022
18,893
6,488
113
62
#2,266
Magenta said:
Just because God has an attribute or ability to do something does not automatically equate
into us being able to be or do the same thing simply because we are made in His image.

If you honestly think it does, there is something really wrong with your theology.
Click to expand...
This thread verifies our lack of omniscience.
 
Cameron143

Cameron143

Well-known member
#2,269
Mar 1, 2022
18,893
6,488
113
62
#2,269
Genez said:
Did you not will to post that? God gave you that authority in using your will.

Sometimes I think that hyper-Calvinism was a back door attack upon logic done in the name of being logical.
Click to expand...
I think CDS has people making a lot of assumptions void of logic altogether.
 
Cameron143

Cameron143

Well-known member
#2,279
Mar 1, 2022
18,893
6,488
113
62
#2,279
Magenta said:
Like those who say, "I can only go by what the Bible says," while they add and subtract to what is written...

That apple has a big ol' worm in it.

:p
Click to expand...
Don't tell Bill Gates. He already wants us eating bugs.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.