Questions

[Johann]

If you really must know Strongs (his 1st work) not the newer one where they change the meanings of words and passages to fit the newer versions of Bibles. Smith dictionary, Greens Interlinear new and old. Bullingers Companion bible, Websters 3rd collegiate dict, best 1 before they changed to wokeness, several maps, E-Sword and a few others.!!

Wait! Are you saying all of the above mentioned is wrong?
J.

 

[Kenneth]

Wait! Are you saying all of the above mentioned is wrong?
J.

If you really must know Strongs (his 1st work) not the newer one where they change the meanings of words and passages to fit the newer versions of Bibles. Smith dictionary, Greens Interlinear new and old. Bullinger's Companion bible, Websters 3rd collegiate dict, best 1 before they changed to wokeness, several maps, E-Sword and a few others.!!

I agree with you The Companion Bible AKJV 1611 with the Appendixes, The New Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, the Smiths & The Webster's Dictionary and some good OL Arkansas common sense, and then add a pinch of Arkie hummer and you get" Uall need to keep your traps shut in church so youns can hear my talken and we can get to dinner had have us some black-eyed peas, collard greens and cornbread.

 

[Kenneth]

All of you that thank woman should put some tape over there mouth; answer me this? What about Philips 4 daughters? they all prophesied; we are all members of the same body all men cannot be the mouth and all women cannot be the ears, we need eyes to see with, hands to work with, arms to move the hands, a backbone to hold us up, and (a Good Wife to let us know when the mouth is running to long and in the wrong direction.)

 

[Kenneth]

Thanks, we all need a little hummer. or maybe a big hammer.

 

[sawdust]

People today think that ancient civilizations were backward, when in fact they were very far advanced in technology, architecture, mathematics, etc.

Yes they were. Name me ten female mathematicians, philosophers, inventors etc. from ancient history.

I stand by what I said, it was not considered necessary to educate females and that same attitude continues even today within certain countries and certain religious mindsets.

 

[Is2C]

All of you that thank woman should put some tape over there mouth; answer me this? What about Philips 4 daughters? they all prophesied; we are all members of the same body all men cannot be the mouth and all women cannot be the ears, we need eyes to see with, hands to work with, arms to move the hands, a backbone to hold us up, and (a Good Wife to let us know when the mouth is running to long and in the wrong direction.)

Ahh I love me some of good ole moms cornbread. Miss it, no one made like her.

 

[Is2C]

I think the case is clear about GOD calling whomsoever HE will men, or women to Teachr; Those who refuse to see don't want to see and never will. They are either truly don't see, or are blinded and if that is the case then only GOD can open their eyes. If some do it just to be contentious than you have a deeper problem. It is clear and done far I as I'm concerned!

 

[Kenneth]

Jeremiah 4:22 “For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do good they have no knowledge.”

 

[Kenneth]

I think the case is clear about GOD calling whomsoever HE will men, or women to Teachr; Those who refuse to see don't want to see and never will. They are either truly don't see, or are blinded and if that is the case then only GOD can open their eyes. If some do it just to be contentious than you have a deeper problem. It is clear and done far I as I'm concerned!

Check out my post on 2nd Petter I thank you will like it also.

 

[Is2C]

as to #2
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

John the half-brother of JESUS, lived with HIM, ate with HIM, traveled and camp out over camp fires with HIM, the writer of the Revelations of CHRIST and the Gospel knew very well his days were not the last days, he seen the last days events because GOD allowed him too and wrote it in Revelations of CHRIST!. He was talking of the end of this age. John was saying it is in the end of this age is when the antichrist comes who will deceive many. He was just saying it is the furthest day out when the Antichrist (Satan) will come de-facto when Michael kicks him and his minions out of heaven-end of 5th trump.

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

THE Antichrist is the son of perdition; there is only 1 son of perdition (to perish=sentenced to die). Only 1 mentioned by name to die and that is Satan! He is not a flesh man and never will be and was never meant to be; he will come de-facto in person, in his created spiritual body.

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

This is Satan coming as antichrist (instead of CHRIST) when CHRIST descends and stands on the top Mt of Olives splitting it into clearing the way to the East gate. His arrogance thinking he is above ELOHIM who created him. Can the pot say to the potter, it is far superior to him? Or order HIM to make him over thee?

When Satan comes the standing on the mount copying CHRIST'S every move; mount does not split and this should be very first clue to those that are watching; but he will come in the same place claiming he is the MESSIAH, because he imitates everything CHRIST does.

 

[B5]

****** Kenneth is correct on all accounts!! NO ONE should chatter in church! when at the time 1 stood up and read the scrolls; No Man, No woman, No child. It is disruptive and an insult to the one reading and preaching and an insult to GOD. Be the preacher being Woman or man. Throughout the WORD of GOD when no man stood up GOD chose a women who seem to have more of a back bone then men.
Exo 15:20 And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
Moses sister Miriam was prophetess.

Act 21:9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.
Phillip had 4 virgin daughters that never knew a man who were also teachers of the gospel traveling with Phillip through Caesarea in which Judah never conquered, but Phillip and his daughters did through the HS.

Jdg 4:4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.
When no man stood up to defend Israel GOD chose Deborah who led them into victory, she was a Judge and preacher.

2Ch 34:22 And Hilkiah, and they that the king had appointed, went to Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvath, the son of Hasrah, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college and they spake to her to that effect.
A woman way back than who was a prophetess at a college (leader), they sought her advice over all others.
Zethaniah and Jeremiah, Zedakiah all was around but they went to her to enquire of the Word.

Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

There is more but anyone who denies a true teacher of the doctrine of CHRIST (male or female) does not do the will of CHRIST. SONS AND DAUGHTERS; will spread the truth in these end times. men since this age began have held women back, caused many women to not stand up because of not knowing the will of GOD. GOD choosing whom so ever HE will to preach truth.

Exactly... and also remember Priscella was also a teacher.

Our "covering" is Jesus Christ. No matter male or female... If one is called by the Lord, they are to obey.

 

[Kenneth]

Wait! Are you saying all of the above mentioned is wrong?
J.

Johanna here is some more for you to chew on. I hope you understand no one is coming down on you, we are not trying to verbally beat you down. We want you to understand the truth. I know that I can and will get a little pointed, and sarcastic but I am just trying to point out that what you have been taught is not correct. I am going to try one more time.
Jeremiah 4:22 “For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do good they have no knowledge.”



Here is a list of some of the woman that God used in the bible.

Huldah 2nd Kings She was a woman of God, God pleased her as the head person at the school of the prophets

Ester not only did she just become the Queen of Israel; she wrote a book called Ester, you may have heard of it' it is a book of the bible in the Old Testament.

Then there was Debora, God appointed her as Judge over all Israel. The commander of the armies of Israel refused to go to war if she did not go (and hide behind the lines with them) I am sorry that is your version of what a woman should do hide behind the men and not be seen or heard from. The commander WOULD NOT go to war unless SHE LED THE ARMY. Then there was Abigai who took things into her own hands when her husband refused David's men food. She took it upon herself to get a feast big enough to feed an army together and took it to David so that the army would not come and wipe them out.



Philip's 4 daughters all prophetess, that worked side by side with him. Anna was a prophetess in the TEMPLE, that is the Temple of God in the city of Jerusalem. Junia was a worker and teacher with Paul, she was thrown into prison with him for preaching the word of God. There was also Phebe, Priscilla, Mary, and many many others spoken of in the bible as well as those who were not spoken of in the bible.

What does the bible say about the body of Christ? It has many members If all the men are the eyes, ears, and mouth of the church what good are they without legs, arms, toes, a backbone, heart etc. God will use whomever or whatever He wants to get the job done. Remember he used a donkey in Numbers 22; Balaam keep beating the poor animal for not moving until the donkey turned its head and said, “can you not see that angle with the flaming sward in front of us telling us to stop.” If God can use an animal to speak: He can and will use a good Godly woman to do whatever he wants her to do. That could be preach, teach and raise a child at the same time, or He can use her to work the front office of the church, take care of the money … or any other job He sees fit to use her in.

 

[Johann]

Johanna here is some more for you to chew on. I hope you understand no one is coming down on you, we are not trying to verbally beat you down. We want you to understand the truth. I know that I can and will get a little pointed, and sarcastic but I am just trying to point out that what you have been taught is not correct. I am going to try one more time.
Jeremiah 4:22 “For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do good they have no knowledge.”



Here is a list of some of the woman that God used in the bible.

Huldah 2nd Kings She was a woman of God, God pleased her as the head person at the school of the prophets

Ester not only did she just become the Queen of Israel; she wrote a book called Ester, you may have heard of it' it is a book of the bible in the Old Testament.

Then there was Debora, God appointed her as Judge over all Israel. The commander of the armies of Israel refused to go to war if she did not go (and hide behind the lines with them) I am sorry that is your version of what a woman should do hide behind the men and not be seen or heard from. The commander WOULD NOT go to war unless SHE LED THE ARMY. Then there was Abigai who took things into her own hands when her husband refused David's men food. She took it upon herself to get a feast big enough to feed an army together and took it to David so that the army would not come and wipe them out.



Philip's 4 daughters all prophetess, that worked side by side with him. Anna was a prophetess in the TEMPLE, that is the Temple of God in the city of Jerusalem. Junia was a worker and teacher with Paul, she was thrown into prison with him for preaching the word of God. There was also Phebe, Priscilla, Mary, and many many others spoken of in the bible as well as those who were not spoken of in the bible.

What does the bible say about the body of Christ? It has many members If all the men are the eyes, ears, and mouth of the church what good are they without legs, arms, toes, a backbone, heart etc. God will use whomever or whatever He wants to get the job done. Remember he used a donkey in Numbers 22; Balaam keep beating the poor animal for not moving until the donkey turned its head and said, “can you not see that angle with the flaming sward in front of us telling us to stop.” If God can use an animal to speak: He can and will use a good Godly woman to do whatever he wants her to do. That could be preach, teach and raise a child at the same time, or He can use her to work the front office of the church, take care of the money … or any other job He sees fit to use her in.

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[Johann]

Huldah 2nd Kings She was a woman of God, God pleased her as the head person at the school of the prophets

Hilkiah and Shaphan and their colleagues went to the prophetess Huldah to get the word of the Lord concerning the recovery of the lost book and its dire warnings. Huldah is unknown outside this single incident. She is called the wife of Shallum, the keeper of the wardrobe. The wardrobe is thought to be a reference to the robes of the priests. Shallum was probably responsible for the care and cleaning of the robes. He is also probably the Shallum who was the uncle of Jeremiah the prophet (Jer_32:7), whose son, Hanameel, sold his field to Jeremiah during the siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar.
Huldah is said to have lived in Jerusalem "in the college." The Hebrew word translated "college" is mishneh, the literal meaning of which is "second place." Therefore some versions translate it "second quarter," referring to that quarter of the city of Jerusalem. However, the rabbis derive the word from shanah, meaning "to teach". Thus it was rendered "college" as indicating a school of the prophets. It is not possible to positively know what is meant.

A more pertinent question would seem to be why the king sent his messengers to a prophetess when he might have inquired of the young prophet Jeremiah. One can do no more than speculate on the answer, and most speculation is to be avoided. It may have been his youth and lack of experience, or the well-known opposition of certain Jewish religious leaders to his sermons. It is not to be doubted that the Lord spoke through this godly woman, nor should it be surprising. He has often spoken through devout and dedicated women. A few of these are Miriam, Deborah, Hannah, Mary the mother of Jesus, old Anna in the temple, Priscilla, and the daughters of Philip the evangelist.

This does not mean women should be ordained preachers of the gospel, for the Scriptures are rather clear on that subject. They have an important place of teaching, but not from the pastoral pulpit of the churches (1Co_14:34-35).

The message which the Lord gave Huldah was not optimistic. The Lord would indeed bring upon Judah and Jerusalem all the evil foretold in the book. This was not unfair, for the carelessness of Israel and their disregard for the word of God was the reason for the loss of the book. Furthermore they had not repented, and the Lord knew that most of them would not. They had presumptuously refused to obey the Lord and had instead burned incense to, and bowed themselves to, the false gods of the land. By their action they had shown their preference for the false over the true. God's wrath was provoked and would not be quenched.

There was an exception to the pessimistic answer of the Lord, and that pertained to the king personally. Because his heart was right, and he had tried to set Judah straight in service to the Lord, because he had wept and humbled himself when he heard the book read, he would escape the curses to befall the nation. The Lord would allow Josiah to live out his days in peace; the judgment would not occur until after his death. This was the message returned by the messengers from Huldah to the king. God always accepts genuine repentance (Isa_66:2; cf. also Joe_2:13; 2Co_7:10).

Many good lessons may be found in this study, as 1) One should not be satisfied without doing all possible to serve the Lord by his life; 2) youths dedicated to Christian service can accomplish very much for God; 3) wrongdoing let alone will become accepted practice; 4) women have a respected and important place in the worship services of the Lord; 5) the wrath of God is inescapable for those who refuse to repent, but is always reserved from the repentant who seek Him.

J.

 

[Kenneth]

You are right she was only mentioned twice in the bible. How many times must God mention someone before you take notice of them? Because someone greatly used of God is only spoken of twice does that mean they are not important in the work of God? Is this your way pf protecting your male ego, and you idea of what God's word says. What about the other woman I mentioned. I know ya they were used of God but they still must stay silent in church even if God gives them a word to say.

 

[Johann]

You are right she was only mentioned twice in the bible. How many times must God mention someone before you take notice of them? Because someone greatly used of God is only spoken of twice does that mean they are not important in the work of God? Is this your way pf protecting your male ego, and you idea of what God's word says. What about the other woman I mentioned. I know ya they were used of God but they still must stay silent in church even if God gives them a word to say.

Why biting at the bridle?
J.

 

[posthuman]

i cannot start a pm conversation with @Kenneth because of his privacy settings

 

[FredVB]

I believe there are those who take very specific passages that they apply much more generally to everyone in everything, such as this case of Paul addressing a problem in a specific church. It is not so with the Sabbath, which was for a much wider application which has many of those who narrowing down to not apply to some such as them, for an understanding from tradition that is not mentioned in Bible passages. Sabbath is not burdensome, while preparation ahead of it is needed is is meant for a benefit to any of us, being given for man, not a heavy burden that would be hard for us, a day to think of God much more, speaking to him, listening, and sharing to any without burdening any others in remembering the Sabbath which God says is holy.

 

[Enocish]

Questions Part 1.​

In our church pastor gives us a chance to ask questions at the end of his sermon. I want to give you just a few of the questions and answers



# 1. what does it mean in the Bible when it says a woman must be silent in church.

This is a problem with the Greek translation into the English. The proper word should be that a woman should not chatter in church. Pastor will not allow either men or women to chatter in church when God's word is being taught. When it comes to women Philip had four daughters they were all virgins and they prophesied. You might want to say that a man helped them but that's not true because they were all virgins. They converted the whole strip from Gaza clear up to Tyra which Israel never did but these four women along with Philip were able to convert them. A wrong translation can do a lot of harm when they pull away from the manuscripts this is why scholarly work is so important. Here it would seem that there is a contradiction in God's word but there is no contradiction in God's word it's in man's interpretation, or a lack of property teaching, that caused this problem.
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i am only going to do 1 question at a time.
Unless i miss understood it in my studies the word speak and chatter should have been translated gossip. and that applies to men or women. Their are women teachers and preachers all through history with Gods blessing. Nothing wrong with a Godly woman. There is not enough of them now.


#2. I believe that when the Antichrist comes we will all still be in flesh bodies?

This is absolutely correct.

I have a second question if I am in pain does that mean that I'm still in my flesh body?

Yes it does and if you can pinch yourself and and you feel it you are definitely still in your flesh body. That's not difficult to understand is it. A third of the angels that were deceived in the first Earth age as it is stipulated in Revelation 12.3 and there appeared another Wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon having seven heads and 10 horns, and 7 crowns upon their heads. Verse 4. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of Heaven, and did cast them to the Earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered for to deliver her child as soon as it was born. That is who God wants to see if in the flesh they will still want to worship the snake or will they listen to the teaching, the seed planting that will pull them away from Satan to God. If they fall again after the Millennium they're done there is no third chance.
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in stead of pinching your self, you should prick your self to see if you bleed. It has been my understanding that spirital bodies can not bleed. that is why God had to become flesh so he could shed his blood and die on the cross. God could not do that as a spirit.

#3. Is the Antichrist symbolic or will he actually appear in the flesh?

He will not appear in the flesh because he is a spiritual being he was one of the cherubim that covered The Mercy Seat in the first Earth age. Satan when he appears will look just like a normal man but he will be a spiritual being it will appear to most that he is just another man because he will look like us, he will eat like us, the only way you will know who he is, is with spiritual discernment. I can guarantee you that if you've ever been around someone with a demonic spirit you will be able to discern it.
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i believe this to be correct. but if i may add this food for thought. It is given that all spiritual bodies must become flesh. the only way that happens is being born of woman. Because of Lucifer trying to over throw God in 1st heaven and earth age. he is the only spirit that has been barred from being born of women. that is how his fate has been sealed. The angels of jude that missed there appointment had their chance but made their dissision when they left. So now their fate is sealed. But according to the Bible when antichrst shows up he will decieve the whole world. So keep your armor on. Cause only Gods elect wil not be decieved.


#4. How much gold and silver, or other things of value should we have on hand to prepare for the hour of Temptation.

Well how long is the hour of Temptation? It is a 5-month that God promises us something and it is a real big promise, it is in Revelation chapter 2 verse 10 that no individual, even though there are 5 months of persecution no person will have have more than 10 days of persecution. You have a pretty good limit there, you should always have things that you can barter with. If you happen to have a watch on your arm or any type of jewelry you can take that to your local Merchant and trade it for food or anything else you might need, that way you will not have to worship the Antichrist in order to get his money to be able to sustain yourself. You don't need to be stocking up enough silver, gold, or anything else for a lifetime you must remember that this is only going to be a 5-month period. It must remember that back in the day when most people were either businessmen or farmers they would trade their labor or their goods for other things that they had need of most of the time money was never exchanged.
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If the walking dead taught us any thing is that in times of scarcity its not the zombies you need to watch out for. but the living. if you have silver and gold be carful about using it. because they find that you have it. they will come trade your life for it. but some wont hurt but it might be better to useful items like food to trade. stuff like that . those are my thoughts what do you think.


#5. Why is it that good people have to die? Why is it that when they get old they have to get sick, broken down, and die.

The answer to that is that these flash bodies are not our real bodies. And First Corinthians chapter 15 you will read that we have two bodies, at this present time, one is the flesh body and the other is a spiritual body. It is true that this flesh body will get old, that at any time in life it can get sick and you could die. We are really not at home in this flesh body, but you have a spiritual body that will never get old, never get sick, and will never die. That spiritual body is eternal, that is why some people have seen angels and they appear as a young person. First Corinthians 15 verse 42. So also is theis the resurrection of the Dead. It is sown an incorruption; it is raised in incorruption: verse 43. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sow and in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power verse 44. it is so on a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Remember when the two women went to the Tomb of Jesus. Luke 24verse 1 now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. Verse 2. And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulcher. Verse 3. And they entered in, and found not the Lord Jesus. Verse 4 and it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments.
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you are right there are a lot of questions, But quickly that is the system we live in. just youtube " from craddle to grave" its a real thing. But God still has answers.


We were getting a little long here, and I will pick it up later because there are more questions answers to follow.

Remember every day in God's word is a good day.

 

[PaulThomson]

I Corinthians, Chapter 14:

34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Scripture is pretty clear. Paul believes women should keep silent in the churches. Now, knowing that he was dealing with people (men and women) who were just leaving their Pagan ritual services (House of 1,000 Prostitutes) and learning about Christianity, I can see why he would say something like this. I would think the women, who had been practicing prostitution, did not have a great understanding of Scripture, or the Gospel of Jesus. Thus, they would be a distraction. Verse 35 tends to reveal this since Paul says "if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home:"

Paul is writing to the Corinthians concerning a letter or delegation he had received asking him about a bunch of disputes the church at Corinth was navigating at the time. It seems that the Corinthian church's women were behaving argumentatively, rebelliously and and unruly in the fellowship meetings and were not obeying their husbands and church elders who had told them to tone it down, so the Corinthian men had eventually told them to be completely silent (sigaO: to hold one's peace; not hEsuchia: ruly, peacable, which is used elsewhere concerning other women). Paul does not say "all women", but "your women". (i.e. the Corinthian church's women) IMO, this is a local ruling to deal with a particular problem of disorderly conduct. at a particular place and time. It is not a general injunction upon all women in all churches.