Plight of the palestinians

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Context....written to and meaningful to the Christians in Rome not 2000 years into the future, the very first rule of hermeneutics!

Read Romans again, the whole chapter is about the future. God promised to bring the Jews back from every nation. All of this is future. smh

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I love dates!

I do too.

I'm expecting to learn a very special date next year .But I have to wait till the draft is abolished to learn the date I want to learn.


It's like Noah being told the date it would start raining beforehand.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Drivel, the Bible makes it clear the land is actual land. It's clear about who that land belongs to. And you can rip out half the Bible to pretend that the Jews get all the curses and the Church gets all the blessings but that is not what the Bible says. God made a covenant, I gave the Scripture verses where He told each generation AGAIN that it was their inheritance. The land belongs to them. Or God lied.

God said he would give it to them who keep his commandments.Like Jesus and the apostles.

Not like the Israeli government who breaks all of God's commandments

 

[NightTwister]

I do too.

I'm expecting to learn a very special date next year .But I have to wait till the draft is abolished to learn the date I want to learn.


It's like Noah being told the date it would start raining beforehand.

And if in 4 1/2 years it doesn't come to be? Most likely you'll just change it to a new date. That's what most do.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Read Romans again, the whole chapter is about the future. God promised to bring the Jews back from every nation. All of this is future. smh

God brings Israel back when he brings them up out of their graves.

The people in the land of Israel today followed the beast there.They bought tickets and moved there themselves to live in the beasts kingdom.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

And if in 4 1/2 years it doesn't come to be? Most likely you'll just change it to a new date. That's what most do.

The prophecy has been pretty spot on from what I've been watching.

 

[HeIsHere]

I made it perfectly clear that no one will.live in the promised land except they belong to Christ.

There are two groups . Them that believe the gospel and are we baptised and them that dont.You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

What is the promised land is the ancient land or a spiritual land?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Also the hypocrisy of many Israel defenders, especially the American ones is astonishing.

They will argue that Jews are the original inhabitants of the region and that Palestinians are invaders from Arabia, so the land therefore belongs to the Jews. Ok, then why not give America to the Native Americans and expel everyone else, as the land belongs to the Native Americans?

Apples and oranges. America didn't belong to Americans then others came and tried to push them out. Israel has a history of 3000 yrs and there have always been Jews there as much as other have tried to turn them out. Palestinians are Arabs. When the Jews came back to Israel, their own land, after the Holocaust the Arabs were given a chance at dividing the land then. They refused it even through they were given the best part of the land and the Jews desert land. Now they want to turn around and say they deserve land. No! They don't!! They have been offered everything they could possibly want, except the Jews to be expelled from their own country. Even Bill Clinton said the Arabs couldn't be pleased. Your comparison has nothing to do with the history of what has happened in Israel.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Wrong, there are still Christians living there, it is the Jews who spit on them.

The most dangerous countries for Christians and Jews are Muslim countries, look it up.

 

[HeIsHere]

Apples and oranges. America didn't belong to Americans then others came and tried to push them out. Israel has a history of 3000 yrs and there have always been Jews there as much as other have tried to turn them out. Palestinians are Arabs. When the Jews came back to Israel, their own land, after the Holocaust the Arabs were given a chance at dividing the land then. They refused it even through they were given the best part of the land and the Jews desert land. Now they want to turn around and say they deserve land. No! They don't!! They have been offered everything they could possibly want, except the Jews to be expelled from their own country. Even Bill Clinton said the Arabs couldn't be pleased. Your comparison has nothing to do with the history of what has happened in Israel.

Bill Clinton a very trustworthy character...

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

When you attach God to something everything can be rationalized as good and right.

God attached Himself. He will keep His promises or He is a liar.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I made it perfectly clear that no one will.live in the promised land except they belong to Christ.

There are two groups . Them that believe the gospel and are we baptised and them that dont.You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

You're not even following the conversation. Go read Romans 11 again, you're totally out of the loop.

 

[HeIsHere]

Read Romans again, the whole chapter is about the future. God promised to bring the Jews back from every nation. All of this is future. smh

Yeah, its been future ever since Darby and Schofield arrived to tell us that.
Paul wrote to the Romans telling them about their near future.
Common sense!

 

[Shilohsfoal]

What is the promised land is the ancient land or a spiritual land?

The promised land is actual.land.It is the land between the Euphrates and Nile which is now occupied by many kingdoms in clouding the little kingdom called Israel
Israel is the little horn among the different and larger horns in the kingdom
According to scripture,the Israeli government imprisons and kills the christians in Israel ,then after 42 months the Lord comes after that tribulation and all those kingdoms are destroyed including israel.Then the kingdom is given to the saints .


Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

28 Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.

 

[HeIsHere]

God attached Himself. He will keep His promises or He is a liar.

I think you mean the Rothschilds and Arthur James Balfour.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

You're not even following the conversation. Go read Romans 11 again, you're totally out of the loop.

You are not part of our conversation.
You need to read something besides Romans 11.It appears it's the only verses you believe in.

 

[HeIsHere]

The promised land is actual.land.It is the land between the Euphrates and Nile which is now occupied by many kingdoms in clouding the little kingdom called Israel

So all believers are going to inhabit this land in future, ok.

 

[jamessb]

Bill Clinton a very trustworthy character...

That is your reply to post #208? Seriously?

 

[EszterBH]

The Palestinians have been given peace deal after peace deal and refused them all. Other countries have made peace for land with Israel. You can lead a horse to water. Israel wants peace, but they are not willing to allow their people to be murdered in cold blood. They have 1% of the land in the ME and people are still screaming "from the river to the sea". When do Palestinians have to try something to bring peace? When does it become their responsibility?




And yet Palestinians have every freedom in Israel. They are part of the gov't, they teach and attend college, the hospital there serves everyone. Palestinians are treated as if they are Israelis. We have haters in our gov't too but we have laws in place the same as Israel does.



I agree, the largest killing of Jews since the Holocaust. Children were murdered in front of their parents. Women were raped and their bodies dragged through the streets. Still have hostages, babies, held hostage. Horrific crimes.

Yes, they want peace building more and more settlements in the West Bank until everything is occupied, occuping territory from a country they recognize (the Golan heights of Syria) and devastating a whole civilian population, half of it being minors, while the leaders of Hamas are living lives of luxury in Qatar.

Being equal by law does not mean Palestinians are in a good situation in Israel. I will admit I never visited Israel so I cant speak from experience, but I remember hearing some of them saying they face high levels of discrimination, most often mentioning the difficulties they have finding employment. This also happens with certain groups in the US, being honest with you.

And hey you know what I was saying about Gaza. Dont ignore the innocent men, women and children of Gaza, victims of attacks that are supposed to be directed against a few guys in Qatar. Im sure you would scream me if I did the same thing with the Holocaust.

 

[HeIsHere]

That is your reply to post #208? Seriously?

Would like a more detailed examination of the peace talks and the truth about why they failed.... most people do not, they prefer the lies of the media and their government!